[Rhodes22-list] Actual sailing question...'guy' stuff; actually, need a 'How'
elle
watermusic38 at yahoo.com
Thu Oct 23 19:00:48 EDT 2008
Thanks, Slim. I'm with you...that the water just goes in & out. ...Not doing the antifreeze thing makes it much easier to organize the steps..
Thanks for the list and the suggestions.
One more question..do you have to run the engine after changing the oil to get the oil in all the nooks & crannies?
elle
We can't change the angle of the wind....but we can adjust our sails.
1992 Rhodes 22 Recyc '06 "WaterMusic" (Lady in Red)
--- On Thu, 10/23/08, Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Actual sailing question...'guy' stuff; actually, need a 'How'
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 6:33 PM
> elle,
>
> I've never gotten the advice to use antifreeze in the
> intake. I'd press
> whoever gave you that advice and find out if this is
> something specific to
> your motor. I have a Merc and all the water drains out.
>
> As for the order, I'd run the motor out of gas with the
> fogger, change the
> filters, change the oil and you're done.
>
> Slim
>
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 5:14 PM, elle
> <watermusic38 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Slim,,
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Actually we have three bubblers on the dock...I have
> one, and my neighbor
> > has two. We position them to keep the ice away from
> the boats and also the
> > pilings so they don't lift.
> >
> > My only remaining question is the order to do all this
> ...can't
> > aantifreezer the engine if ya gotta run it to use up
> the fuel...this one
> > runs for almost 10 minutes after the intake hose is
> disconnected.
> >
> > The only size bucket that wil fit over the prop is a
> 5 gal drywall
> > compound bucket..and once I have 5 gals of antifreeze
> in it (the amt it
> > takes to cover the intake on the lower unit) I
> can't hold or lift it....
> >
> > If antifreeze is not needed...if all the water drains
> out...then I'm OK...
> >
> > So that is the driving question.
> >
> > elle
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > We can't change the angle of the wind....but we
> can adjust our sails.
> >
> > 1992 Rhodes 22 Recyc '06 "WaterMusic"
> (Lady in Red)
> >
> >
> > --- On Thu, 10/23/08, Steven Alm
> <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Actual sailing
> question...'guy' stuff;
> > actually, need a 'How'
> > > To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 5:28 PM
> > > elle,
> > >
> > > The "storage oil" is commonly called
> fogging oil
> > > and you can ask for just
> > > that at any place that sells marine stuff or auto
> part
> > > store. Remove the
> > > cover of your motor and disconnect the fuel line.
> Start
> > > the motor and let
> > > the it run out of gas but just as it's
> starting to die,
> > > spray the fogging
> > > oil right into the air intake of the carburetor.
> The motor
> > > might pick up a
> > > bit and run a little on the fogging oil. Spray
> in a
> > > liberal amount. Soon
> > > the motor will die and that's it.
> > >
> > > To change the oil in the lower unit, first be
> sure you have
> > > the right oil.
> > > The bottle with the nozzle sounds right. Once
> you drain
> > > the old, the new
> > > should be added from the bottom hole. Yes, the
> bottom
> > > hole. (You found the
> > > top hole too, right? Remove both screws.) Hold
> the nozzle
> > > snugly into the
> > > hole and squirt until it comes out the top hole.
> Then get
> > > ready to quickly
> > > pull out the nozzle and put the screw in.
> You'll
> > > dribble a little but
> > > that's how it's done to avoid air
> pockets.
> > >
> > > I've never used antifreeze in the water
> intake. I
> > > never do anything with
> > > that. But you're in salt water, yes? That
> presents
> > > some variables I'm
> > > unfamiliar with. Rummy's one of our motor
> heads here.
> > > He'll probably jump
> > > in.
> > >
> > > Will the boat be in the water all winter? Do you
> have a
> > > bubbler?
> > >
> > > I'm doing mine on Sunday. We've already
> had a
> > > freeze this week. (sigh)
> > >
> > > Slim
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Bob Weber
> > > <ruba1811 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Elle, can you back the boat up to the dock
> using the
> > > motor or lines / line
> > > > handlers. This would save you the kayak
> routine?
> > > BW> Date: Thu, 23 Oct
> > > > 2008 13:21:14 -0700> From:
> > > watermusic38 at yahoo.com> To:
> > > > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject:
> > > [Rhodes22-list] Actual sailing
> > > > question...'guy' stuff; actually,
> need a
> > > 'How'> > It's time to winterize
> the
> > > > engine...Tohatsu 9.8. I will be doing this
> alone,, and
> > > the engine is on the
> > > > boat.> > I have questions about 1)
> order of
> > > operations, and 2) accomplishing
> > > > one of these parts.> > Of necessity
> the boat
> > > will have to stay at the dock.
> > > > > > Please bear with me as I am still
> new at
> > > this 'guy stuff.' I am using
> > > > the manual...looks easy if the engine is on
> a stand in
> > > the yard w/ the prop
> > > > in a barrel....> > I have to :>
> > 1.
> > > Change engine oil (on top) along with
> > > > checking filters, etc. This is the difficult
> part as
> > > the manual says to tilt
> > > > the engine forward & then to the right.
> I have the
> > > engine lift, so that
> > > > can;'t happen.> > Is there a sort
> of '!
> > > > turkey baster' device...small hand pump
> w./tubing
> > > I can put into the oil
> > > > fill & then suck it slowly out?> >
> I will be
> > > doing this from the transom of
> > > > the boat...i know I have to run the engine
> to warm the
> > > oil. I will burn
> > > > myself..that is a given.> > 2. Change
> lower unit
> > > oil> > I will have to do
> > > > this from the kayak as I cannot reach the
> lower unit
> > > from the boat w/o
> > > > hanging upside down by my ankles. > I
> plan to have
> > > the screwdriver to remove
> > > > the screws (& I have bought 2 extra so
> that I
> > > don't lose any) . I plan to
> > > > let the oil drain into a small bucket that I
> hang from
> > > the prop. I have oil
> > > > in a botttle w/a nozzle & it looks easy
> enuf to do
> > > as the manual suggests.>
> > > > > 3. Run gas (with Stabil) thru the carb
> until it
> > > runs dry....I'll
> > > > disconnect the fuel hose from the tank &
> let the
> > > engine run.> > Here are
> > > > questions:> > 1.My observation &
> also
> > > reading the diagrams makes me think
> > > > the water that the engine takes in &
> discharges
> > > just comes in & goes right
> > > > out. So do I need antifreeze? !
> > > > If so, I can put use the pink stuff (not
> ethylene
> > > glycol auto stuff) i
> > > > n a bucket & use a hose & the
> earmuffs from
> > > the transom...after connecting
> > > > the hose from the kayak. I don;t think it
> will take
> > > but a few cups...as
> > > > there is no reservoir, correct?> This
> will have to
> > > be done from the kayak,
> > > > unless I let the antifreeze just go into the
> creek. Is
> > > that OK? My instincts
> > > > tell me it is...but?> > 2. My
> instincts also
> > > tell me that it is good to
> > > > drain all the oil first, then let the new,
> clean oil
> > > bathe the parts for the
> > > > winter. But then I have to run the engine to
> do the
> > > other stuff. OK> > 3.
> > > > Manual says to spray 'storage oil'
> into the
> > > combustion chamber...what is a
> > > > product name for this? > > What order
> should I
> > > do this in?> > Any anything
> > > > where I have gone wrong? This should not
> take long but
> > > it will take me all
> > > > most of the day with all the back &
> forth from
> > > kayak to boat & thento garage
> > > > to get some tool that I first have to figure
> out that
> > > I need and then find
> > > > ..> > these are the times I kick
> walls.> >
> > > Can anyone offer suggestions as
> > > > to tools, proce!
> > > > dure, order of operation, from your
> experience?>
> > > > many thanks.> > elle> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > We can't change the angle of the
> wind....but we can
> > > > adjust our sails.> > 1992 Rhodes 22
> Recyc
> > > '06 "WaterMusic" (Lady in Red)>
> >
> > > > > >
> > >
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