[Rhodes22-list] Another of Gov. Palin's "Real Americans"

[Benjamin Cittadino]

Herb;

I didn't get into it with you because my opinion is based upon everything
you already know. You and I disagree.  I see her speech patterns as stilted,
scripted, and unsophisticated. You see a smart, plain spoken, leader.  I saw
her interview answers ( with Couric and others) and debate performance as
poor.  You saw it differently.  I saw a duck that walked talked and quacked
so I called it a duck. You saw a swan gliding smoothly to a change in
Washington.  You are clearly not willing or able to see it my way; I am
clearly not able or willing to see it your way. What's to discuss? For once
I thought I would take Mike's advice and avoid going around and around with
you about it. OK?

Ben C.

hparsons wrote:
> 
> Ben,
> 
> What good would it have done to ask you at the time? I tried that, you 
> refused to answer.
> 
> What, you wanted another opportunity to refuse?
> 
> 
> Ben Cittadino wrote:
>> Bill;
>>
>> With all of the perjoratives that have been slung at the candidates (and
>> forum members) in this forum over the past weeks, you pick NOW to chime
>> in
>> over my use of moron to refer to Sarah Palin? 
>>
>> And you do it in a thread referring to the resignation of a woman who
>> herself acknowledged her error in publishing a racist handout? You brush
>> it
>> off as a political cartoon? 
>>
>> And how do you know Scott McClellan doesn't have some afflicted
>> individual
>> in his family when you refer to him as a moron.
>>
>> Tell you what, I'll give you Scott as a moron if you give me Sarah as a
>> moron. OK?
>>
>> Ben C.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill Effros wrote:
>>   
>>> Ben,
>>>
>>> This was essentially a political cartoon.
>>>
>>> Seems to me you called the mother of a Down Syndrome child a "moron" 
>>> recently.
>>>
>>> Very offensive to the intellectually challenged.
>>>
>>> There is great danger when the defenders of the first amendment scream 
>>> "RACIST!" at anyone who disagrees with them on any topic.
>>>
>>> Thomas Nast would be saddened.
>>>
>>> Bill Effros
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ben Cittadino wrote:
>>>     
>>>> The following came over the AP Wire today.  I think the Dowd column and
>>>> Gen.
>>>> Powell were thinking of people like this when they criticized the
>>>> tactics
>>>> of
>>>> the GOP this time around. Just my opinion. I could be wrong.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "SAN BERNARDINO, Calif. - The president of a San Bernardino County
>>>> Republican club resigned after apologizing for distributing a
>>>> newsletter
>>>> with a caricature of Barack Obama on a fake food stamp surrounded by
>>>> ribs,
>>>> watermelon and fried chicken.
>>>>
>>>> In a letter sent Wednesday to members of the Chaffey Community
>>>> Republican
>>>> Women, Federated, Diane Fedele said she was sorry for showing "poor
>>>> judgment
>>>> and lack of insight and sensitivity."
>>>>
>>>> Officials with the state Republican Party have said the GOP club is not
>>>> directly responsible to the state party.
>>>>
>>>> In the October newsletter sent to about 200 members and associates,
>>>> Fedele
>>>> included an image she pulled from an e-mail making the rounds of the
>>>> Internet.
>>>>
>>>> The illustration showed a $10 "Obama Bucks" food stamp with the
>>>> Democratic
>>>> presidential candidate's head on a donkey, surrounded by the foods
>>>> linked
>>>> to
>>>> negative stereotypes of blacks.
>>>>
>>>> Black members of the club as well as GOP lawmakers and state and
>>>> national
>>>> party leaders condemned the newsletter as offensive and racist.
>>>>
>>>> Fedele denied racist intent but in her letter defended the message:
>>>> "The
>>>> point, that has been lost in the subsequent discussion over images, was
>>>> that
>>>> Obama will 'take from the rich and give to the poor' and that we ALL
>>>> would
>>>> be buying food with his 'Obama Welfare Dollars.' An ideological
>>>> statement,
>>>> not a racial one."
>>>>
>>>> The Riverside Press-Enterprise said the cartoon was created by Tim
>>>> Kastelein, a 31-year-old Minnesota Democrat who said he made it in a
>>>> satirical attempt to make fun of right-wing pundits afraid of a
>>>> Democratic
>>>> presidential candidate."
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>> Ben C.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>       
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