[Rhodes22-list] Actual sailing question...'guy' stuff; actually, need a 'How'
elle
watermusic38 at yahoo.com
Fri Oct 24 20:14:20 EDT 2008
Slim,
I meant to get back to you on the antifreeze issue.
You are right...the water just drains out...but being run in salt water , the engine needed to be flushed. 'Earmuffs' and lotsa lotsa hose accomplished this. I also found the vacuum oil extractor....it just sucked that stuff right out.
Having the right equipment ( I just love my 5/16 socket...;^...fits the carb screw just right!)...makes a job go so smoothly
Again, thanks.
elle
We can't change the angle of the wind....but we can adjust our sails.
1992 Rhodes 22 Recyc '06 "WaterMusic" (Lady in Red)
--- On Thu, 10/23/08, Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Actual sailing question...'guy' stuff; actually, need a 'How'
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 6:33 PM
> elle,
>
> I've never gotten the advice to use antifreeze in the
> intake. I'd press
> whoever gave you that advice and find out if this is
> something specific to
> your motor. I have a Merc and all the water drains out.
>
> As for the order, I'd run the motor out of gas with the
> fogger, change the
> filters, change the oil and you're done.
>
> Slim
>
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 5:14 PM, elle
> <watermusic38 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Slim,,
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Actually we have three bubblers on the dock...I have
> one, and my neighbor
> > has two. We position them to keep the ice away from
> the boats and also the
> > pilings so they don't lift.
> >
> > My only remaining question is the order to do all this
> ...can't
> > aantifreezer the engine if ya gotta run it to use up
> the fuel...this one
> > runs for almost 10 minutes after the intake hose is
> disconnected.
> >
> > The only size bucket that wil fit over the prop is a
> 5 gal drywall
> > compound bucket..and once I have 5 gals of antifreeze
> in it (the amt it
> > takes to cover the intake on the lower unit) I
> can't hold or lift it....
> >
> > If antifreeze is not needed...if all the water drains
> out...then I'm OK...
> >
> > So that is the driving question.
> >
> > elle
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > We can't change the angle of the wind....but we
> can adjust our sails.
> >
> > 1992 Rhodes 22 Recyc '06 "WaterMusic"
> (Lady in Red)
> >
> >
> > --- On Thu, 10/23/08, Steven Alm
> <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Actual sailing
> question...'guy' stuff;
> > actually, need a 'How'
> > > To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 5:28 PM
> > > elle,
> > >
> > > The "storage oil" is commonly called
> fogging oil
> > > and you can ask for just
> > > that at any place that sells marine stuff or auto
> part
> > > store. Remove the
> > > cover of your motor and disconnect the fuel line.
> Start
> > > the motor and let
> > > the it run out of gas but just as it's
> starting to die,
> > > spray the fogging
> > > oil right into the air intake of the carburetor.
> The motor
> > > might pick up a
> > > bit and run a little on the fogging oil. Spray
> in a
> > > liberal amount. Soon
> > > the motor will die and that's it.
> > >
> > > To change the oil in the lower unit, first be
> sure you have
> > > the right oil.
> > > The bottle with the nozzle sounds right. Once
> you drain
> > > the old, the new
> > > should be added from the bottom hole. Yes, the
> bottom
> > > hole. (You found the
> > > top hole too, right? Remove both screws.) Hold
> the nozzle
> > > snugly into the
> > > hole and squirt until it comes out the top hole.
> Then get
> > > ready to quickly
> > > pull out the nozzle and put the screw in.
> You'll
> > > dribble a little but
> > > that's how it's done to avoid air
> pockets.
> > >
> > > I've never used antifreeze in the water
> intake. I
> > > never do anything with
> > > that. But you're in salt water, yes? That
> presents
> > > some variables I'm
> > > unfamiliar with. Rummy's one of our motor
> heads here.
> > > He'll probably jump
> > > in.
> > >
> > > Will the boat be in the water all winter? Do you
> have a
> > > bubbler?
> > >
> > > I'm doing mine on Sunday. We've already
> had a
> > > freeze this week. (sigh)
> > >
> > > Slim
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Bob Weber
> > > <ruba1811 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Elle, can you back the boat up to the dock
> using the
> > > motor or lines / line
> > > > handlers. This would save you the kayak
> routine?
> > > BW> Date: Thu, 23 Oct
> > > > 2008 13:21:14 -0700> From:
> > > watermusic38 at yahoo.com> To:
> > > > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject:
> > > [Rhodes22-list] Actual sailing
> > > > question...'guy' stuff; actually,
> need a
> > > 'How'> > It's time to winterize
> the
> > > > engine...Tohatsu 9.8. I will be doing this
> alone,, and
> > > the engine is on the
> > > > boat.> > I have questions about 1)
> order of
> > > operations, and 2) accomplishing
> > > > one of these parts.> > Of necessity
> the boat
> > > will have to stay at the dock.
> > > > > > Please bear with me as I am still
> new at
> > > this 'guy stuff.' I am using
> > > > the manual...looks easy if the engine is on
> a stand in
> > > the yard w/ the prop
> > > > in a barrel....> > I have to :>
> > 1.
> > > Change engine oil (on top) along with
> > > > checking filters, etc. This is the difficult
> part as
> > > the manual says to tilt
> > > > the engine forward & then to the right.
> I have the
> > > engine lift, so that
> > > > can;'t happen.> > Is there a sort
> of '!
> > > > turkey baster' device...small hand pump
> w./tubing
> > > I can put into the oil
> > > > fill & then suck it slowly out?> >
> I will be
> > > doing this from the transom of
> > > > the boat...i know I have to run the engine
> to warm the
> > > oil. I will burn
> > > > myself..that is a given.> > 2. Change
> lower unit
> > > oil> > I will have to do
> > > > this from the kayak as I cannot reach the
> lower unit
> > > from the boat w/o
> > > > hanging upside down by my ankles. > I
> plan to have
> > > the screwdriver to remove
> > > > the screws (& I have bought 2 extra so
> that I
> > > don't lose any) . I plan to
> > > > let the oil drain into a small bucket that I
> hang from
> > > the prop. I have oil
> > > > in a botttle w/a nozzle & it looks easy
> enuf to do
> > > as the manual suggests.>
> > > > > 3. Run gas (with Stabil) thru the carb
> until it
> > > runs dry....I'll
> > > > disconnect the fuel hose from the tank &
> let the
> > > engine run.> > Here are
> > > > questions:> > 1.My observation &
> also
> > > reading the diagrams makes me think
> > > > the water that the engine takes in &
> discharges
> > > just comes in & goes right
> > > > out. So do I need antifreeze? !
> > > > If so, I can put use the pink stuff (not
> ethylene
> > > glycol auto stuff) i
> > > > n a bucket & use a hose & the
> earmuffs from
> > > the transom...after connecting
> > > > the hose from the kayak. I don;t think it
> will take
> > > but a few cups...as
> > > > there is no reservoir, correct?> This
> will have to
> > > be done from the kayak,
> > > > unless I let the antifreeze just go into the
> creek. Is
> > > that OK? My instincts
> > > > tell me it is...but?> > 2. My
> instincts also
> > > tell me that it is good to
> > > > drain all the oil first, then let the new,
> clean oil
> > > bathe the parts for the
> > > > winter. But then I have to run the engine to
> do the
> > > other stuff. OK> > 3.
> > > > Manual says to spray 'storage oil'
> into the
> > > combustion chamber...what is a
> > > > product name for this? > > What order
> should I
> > > do this in?> > Any anything
> > > > where I have gone wrong? This should not
> take long but
> > > it will take me all
> > > > most of the day with all the back &
> forth from
> > > kayak to boat & thento garage
> > > > to get some tool that I first have to figure
> out that
> > > I need and then find
> > > > ..> > these are the times I kick
> walls.> >
> > > Can anyone offer suggestions as
> > > > to tools, proce!
> > > > dure, order of operation, from your
> experience?>
> > > > many thanks.> > elle> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > We can't change the angle of the
> wind....but we can
> > > > adjust our sails.> > 1992 Rhodes 22
> Recyc
> > > '06 "WaterMusic" (Lady in Red)>
> >
> > > > > >
> > >
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