[Rhodes22-list] Palin the rogue

Sat Oct 25 20:59:03 EDT 2008

Dave,

You don't get it do you?  Palin is the only conservative (actually
more libertarian) in this race.  She isn't driving ANY conservatives
away.  McCain has already done that, as well as some Republicans.

You are smart enough to figure this all out on your own aren't you?

Brad

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 7:49 PM, David Bradley <dwbrad at gmail.com> wrote:
> Oh I saw it.  That's why I bothered to post this article.  She's a
> loose cannon, playing a material role in driving conserviatve
> comentators and undecided voters to Obama.  Yep, you go girl.  Drive
> that wedge, nice and deep at about the 45th percentile.
>
> Dave
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Herb,
>>
>> Dave didn't pay attention to my earlier post today.  He didn't listen
>> to our excitement when Palin was named to the ticket.  He obviously
>> missed the "Free Sarah Palin" movement early in the campaign.
>>
>> The longer they misunderstand Sarah Palin the better!
>>
>> Frankly, I'm not sure if Sarah can save John McCain from John McCain,
>> but she's taken the gloves and is fighting for herself now.
>>
>> You go Girl!
>>
>> Brad
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:
>>> Some of us don't care if she makes McCain's aides happy.
>>>
>>> David Bradley wrote:
>>>> It looks like the McCain camp thinks Palin has turned rogue candidate.
>>>>  Another example to me of lack of experience in the majors.
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/25/palin.tension/index.html
>>>>
>>>> Palin's 'going rogue,' McCain aide says
>>>>
>>>> Story Highlights
>>>>
>>>> Sources say there is brewing tension between McCain aides and Palin
>>>>
>>>> Palin aide says she is trying to take control of her message
>>>>
>>>> "She is a diva. She takes no advice from anyone," says a McCain adviser
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >From Dana Bash, Peter Hamby and John King CNN
>>>>
>>>> ALBUQUERQUE, New Mexico (CNN) -- With 10 days until Election Day,
>>>> long-brewing tensions between GOP vice presidential candidate Gov.
>>>> Sarah Palin and key aides to Sen. John McCain have become so intense,
>>>> they are spilling out in public, sources say.
>>>>
>>>> Several McCain advisers have suggested to CNN that they have become
>>>> increasingly frustrated with what one aide described as Palin "going
>>>> rogue."
>>>>
>>>> A Palin associate, however, said the candidate is simply trying to
>>>> "bust free" of what she believes was a damaging and mismanaged
>>>> roll-out.
>>>>
>>>> McCain sources say Palin has gone off-message several times, and they
>>>> privately wonder whether the incidents were deliberate. They cited an
>>>> instance in which she labeled robocalls -- recorded messages often
>>>> used to attack a candidate's opponent -- "irritating" even as the
>>>> campaign defended their use. Also, they pointed to her telling
>>>> reporters she disagreed with the campaign's decision to pull out of
>>>> Michigan.
>>>>
>>>> A second McCain source says she appears to be looking out for herself
>>>> more than the McCain campaign.
>>>>
>>>> "She is a diva. She takes no advice from anyone," said this McCain
>>>> adviser. "She does not have any relationships of trust with any of us,
>>>> her family or anyone else.
>>>>
>>>> "Also, she is playing for her own future and sees herself as the next
>>>> leader of the party. Remember: Divas trust only unto themselves, as
>>>> they see themselves as the beginning and end of all wisdom."
>>>>
>>>> A Palin associate defended her, saying that she is "not good at
>>>> process questions" and that her comments on Michigan and the robocalls
>>>> were answers to process questions.
>>>>
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>>>> But this Palin source acknowledged that Palin is trying to take more
>>>> control of her message, pointing to last week's impromptu news
>>>> conference on a Colorado tarmac.
>>>>
>>>> Tracey Schmitt, Palin's press secretary, was urgently called over
>>>> after Palin wandered over to the press and started talking. Schmitt
>>>> tried several times to end the unscheduled session.
>>>>
>>>> "We acknowledge that perhaps she should have been out there doing
>>>> more," a different Palin adviser recently said, arguing that "it's not
>>>> fair to judge her off one or two sound bites" from the network
>>>> interviews.
>>>>
>>>> The Politico reported Saturday on Palin's frustration, specifically
>>>> with McCain advisers Nicolle Wallace and Steve Schmidt. They helped
>>>> decide to limit Palin's initial press contact to high-profile
>>>> interviews with Charlie Gibson of ABC and Katie Couric of CBS, which
>>>> all McCain sources admit were highly damaging.
>>>>
>>>> In response, Wallace e-mailed CNN the same quote she gave the
>>>> Politico: "If people want to throw me under the bus, my personal
>>>> belief is that the most honorable thing to do is to lie there."
>>>>
>>>> But two sources, one Palin associate and one McCain adviser, defended
>>>> the decision to keep her press interaction limited after she was
>>>> picked, both saying flatly that she was not ready and that the
>>>> missteps could have been a lot worse.
>>>>
>>>> They insisted that she needed time to be briefed on national and
>>>> international issues and on McCain's record.
>>>>
>>>> "Her lack of fundamental understanding of some key issues was
>>>> dramatic," said another McCain source with direct knowledge of the
>>>> process to prepare Palin after she was picked. The source said it was
>>>> probably the "hardest" to get her "up to speed than any candidate in
>>>> history."
>>>>
>>>> Schmitt came to the back of the plane Saturday to deliver a statement
>>>> to traveling reporters: "Unnamed sources with their own agenda will
>>>> say what they want, but from Gov. Palin down, we have one agenda, and
>>>> that's to win on Election Day."
>>>>
>>>> Yet another senior McCain adviser lamented the public recriminations.
>>>>
>>>> "This is what happens with a campaign that's behind; it brings out the
>>>> worst in people, finger-pointing and scapegoating," this senior
>>>> adviser said.
>>>>
>>>> This adviser also decried the double standard, noting that Democratic
>>>> nominee Sen. Barack Obama's running mate, Sen. Joe Biden, has gone off
>>>> the reservation as well, most recently by telling donors at a
>>>> fundraiser that America's enemies will try to "test" Obama.
>>>>
>>>> Tensions like those within the McCain-Palin campaign are not unusual;
>>>> vice presidential candidates also have a history of butting heads with
>>>> the top of the ticket.
>>>>
>>>> John Edwards and his inner circle repeatedly questioned Sen. John
>>>> Kerry's strategy in 2004, and Kerry loyalists repeatedly aired in
>>>> public their view that Edwards would not play the traditional attack
>>>> dog role with relish because he wanted to protect his future political
>>>> interests.
>>>>
>>>> Even in a winning campaign like Bill Clinton's, some of Al Gore's
>>>> aides in 1992 and again in 1996 questioned how Gore was being
>>>> scheduled for campaign events.
>>>>
>>>> Jack Kemp's aides distrusted the Bob Dole camp and vice versa, and Dan
>>>> Quayle loyalists had a list of gripes remarkably similar to those now
>>>> being aired by Gov. Palin's aides.
>>>>
>>>> With the presidential race in its final days and polls suggesting that
>>>> McCain's chances of pulling out a win are growing slim, Palin may be
>>>> looking after her own future.
>>>>
>>>> "She's no longer playing for 2008; she's playing 2012," Democratic
>>>> pollster Peter Hart said. "And the difficulty is, when she went on
>>>> 'Saturday Night Live,' she became a reinforcement of her caricature.
>>>> She never allowed herself to be vetted, and at the end of the day,
>>>> voters turned against her both in terms of qualifications and
>>>> personally
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