[Rhodes22-list] Politics - Meet the Press

Sun Oct 26 08:25:31 EDT 2008

big difference between 8000 and 23,000

1) The Times reports, Sarah Palin's "negative rating is the highest for a
vice-presidential candidate as measured by The Times and CBS News. Even Dan
Quayle, with whom Mrs. Palin is often compared because of her age and
inexperience on the national scene, was not viewed as negatively in the 1988
campaign."

2)  Sept. 13 (Bloomberg) -- Senator John McCain has drawn some of the
biggest crowds of his presidential campaign since adding Alaska Governor
Sarah Palin to his ticket on Aug. 29. Now officials say they can't
substantiate the figures McCain's aides are claiming. McCain aide Kimmie
Lipscomb told reporters on Sept. 10 that an outdoor rally in Fairfax City,
Virginia, drew 23,000 people, attributing the crowd estimate to a fire
marshal. Fairfax City Fire Marshal Andrew Wilson said his office did not
supply that number to the campaign and could not confirm it. Wilson, in an
interview, said the fire department does not monitor attendance at outdoor
events. In recent days, journalists attending the rallies have been raising
questions about the crowd estimates with the campaign. In a story on Sept.
11 about Palin's attraction for some Virginia women voters, Washington Post
reporter Marc Fisher estimated the crowd to be 8,000, not the 23,000 cited
by the campaign. 

hparsons wrote:
> 
> Pete
> 
> Go wash your hands.
> 
> Totally devoid of fact, unless you choose to count your own muddled 
> musing as "fact".
> 
> I did notice though, that you had to resort to your regular 
> name-calling. That's typical of folks that have no real argument.
> 
> petelargo wrote:
>> once again brad, you just want to believe the fiction that you want to
>> believe.  palin attendance numbers have been grossly over reported. yes,
>> she
>> is drawing many many more than mccain for sure. she has excited the
>> 'base'
>> of religious righties that do not like mccain. now one of "them" could be
>> back in office. yippie! not because she is a great politician, but
>> because
>> she is a 'end times true believer'.
>>
>> her poll numbers have only been headed in one direction since her initial
>> explosion and that is straight down.  many real conservatives have jumped
>> ship using her as one of the key reasons. the evidence now shows that she
>> is
>> actually dragging mccain down.
>>
>> sorry brad, she's gonna break your heart
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
>>   
>>> Sarah Palin may single-handedly drag John McCain's sorry ass across
>>> the finish line.  She's been drawing 20,000+ at almost every
>>> appearance.  In the past few days, she's taken a "screw the handlers
>>> from the McCain campaign" attitude and started deviating from the
>>> script. Keep trash talking her you detractors, you can "cool your
>>> jets" in the dustbin of history with the rest of the "good 'ole' boys"
>>> who underestimated her in Alaska.
>>>
>>> First, there's this from the LA Times - (I'll attach the article as
>>> well)
>>>
>>> http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/10/sarah-palin-b-3.html
>>>
>>> Then there's gaffe-a-minute Botoxin Joe (the guy can't even wrinkle
>>> his forehead when he's pissed anymore). Now the Obama campaign is
>>> keeping Joe away from the microphones.
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X346U109Chs
>>>
>>> You go Girl!
>>>
>>> Brad
>>>
>>> ----------------------
>>>
>>> s it possible we've been living in a bubble for the last several
>>> weeks, not noticing a complete role reversal between the Democratic
>>> vice presidential candidate, Sen. Joe Biden, and his Republican
>>> counterpart, Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska?
>>>
>>> The always astute Jake Tapper over at ABC makes a shocking point:
>>>
>>> Now, Palin, who was once so sequestered from the media it allowed her
>>> opponents to caricature her and helped create "Free Sarah Palin"
>>> buttons, is meeting with more and more national reporters and,
>>> unreported by them, numerous local media types at virtually every
>>> campaign stop.
>>>
>>> Alaska Governor and Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin
>>> and Democratic Senator and vice presidential candidate Joe Biden of
>>> Delaware
>>>
>>> There's an interview with the Chicago Tribune today, reported here in
>>> The Ticket and on CNN earlier this week. She walks back and chats with
>>> reporters on her campaign plane.
>>>
>>> And, contrary to the silent fears of the McCain controllers, she's
>>> doing just fine.
>>>
>>> But Biden is something else entirely. We've got Joe the Plumber and
>>> Joe Six-Pack. But Joe Delaware-by-way-of-Scranton has gone missing.
>>>
>>> Obama officials will deny it. But he's clearly been muzzled by the
>>> Democratic campaign that's for real change.
>>>
>>> The old veteran, who's been in the Senate since Obama was a kid and
>>> was hired as No. 2 for the foreign affairs cover he gives the freshman
>>> Illinois senator, has put his foot in his Delaware mouth a few too
>>> many times for the Windy City campaign chieftains.
>>>
>>> Tapper points out, amazingly, that Biden has not taken questions from
>>> his crowds of supporters since Sept. 10. That's before some of us
>>> learned Tampa Bay has a baseball team.
>>>
>>> That date just happens to be when, you may recall (but here's the
>>> Ticket item to refresh your memory) Biden so famously ruminated aloud
>>> on-stage that Hillary Clinton might have made a better VP pick than
>>> him. (See and watch the curious video by clicking on the "Read more"
>>> line below.)
>>>
>>> Something Palin promptly agreed on with him.
>>>
>>> But that's not what the cocky White Sox fan wanted to hear, in part
>>> because in terms of....
>>>
>>> ...Democratic votes anyway, Biden's probably right. Look how well he
>>> did during the Democratic primaries. Sure wasn't an 18
>>> million-vote-getter.
>>>
>>> And Biden has not held a press availability since Sept. 7, three days
>>> before that gaffe, on his plane en route to Big Sky Country.
>>>
>>> That means for almost seven of the eight weeks between the Republican
>>> convention and the Nov. 4 election Biden's been gagged to the media.
>>> How much of a plus can this guy be to the over-funded Obama campaign
>>> if he's forbidden from chatting up even his own media crowd?
>>>
>>> And if he's so ready to become president in a skipped heartbeat, what
>>> conceivable crowd questions are so scary they've, in effect, been
>>> forbidden? Besides "Do you think Hillary Clinton should have won?"
>>>
>>> Politicians don't usually go missing like that until after they've
>>> become vice presidents.
>>>
>>> Even Ron Paul and Countrywide Dodd from Connecticut took more questions.
>>>
>>> But Biden still manages to get in verbal trouble, even when he's
>>> talking in supposedly closed fundraisers. (Hello, presidential
>>> campaign whose candidate described bitter small-town people clinging
>>> to faith and guns to just such a crowd himself at considerable cost to
>>> him in Pennsylvania.)
>>>
>>> Biden in Seattle last weekend predicted -- guaranteed -- that
>>> America's enemies would test this recent former state senator within
>>> six months of Inauguration Day. A valid, historically accurate point
>>> that Palin, John McCain and their surrogates are only too happy to
>>> repeat to crowd after crowd.
>>>
>>> Tapper notes, fairly, that a Biden spokesman (is that job really
>>> necessary under the circumstances?) disagrees with that assessment.
>>> But then the political veteran adds: "in terms of general availability
>>> to their traveling press corps, Biden's and Palin's roles are
>>> switching."
>>>
>>> Does anybody seriously think that if the trend was going the other
>>> way, we would not have heard by now endless accounts of her hiding?
>>>
>>> -- Andrew Malcolm
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