[Rhodes22-list] Political Re ply to Captain Ed

[Brad Haslett]

Chris,

The economy - suffering from the real estate and mortgage silliness
but not a recession yet, exports saving the decline in GDP for now.

War - Iraq winding down - the Iraqi's want us out (and we want out).
NATO petering out in Afghanistan (NATO petering out in Georgia), UN
non-existent, tough terrain, tough people, nuclear Pakistan.  Tough
situation 7 years later.  Radical Muslims still looking for a way to
kill us.  The war goes on.

Taxes -  Tax revenue is up because of a cut in the capital gains tax
and increased investment in the economy.

Between what rich and what poor are we talking about.  The World?  The
poor are gaining - did you watch the Olympics?  US economy?  We may be
the only nation on the planet where the poor owns a color TV,
air-conditioning, and two cars.  And, they are fat.

And how would you like to focus on these issues, especially the
economic ones?  Trot out a few more failed economic theories or follow
China's path - ditch the Marxist bullshit and try a little old
fashioned capitalism?

Brad

On 8/31/08, Chris Geankoplis <napoli68 at charter.net> wrote:
> Thanks Tootle,
>                     We both agree that there are a lot of people who have
>  made mistakes and have gone on to lead better lives, so lets focus on the
>  actual issues, the economy, the war, taxes, the growing gap between rich and
>  poor.  These are where we need to focus.
>
>  Chris G
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Tootle" <ekroposki at charter.net>
>  To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>  Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 4:18 PM
>  Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re ply to Captain Chris G.
>
>
>  >
>  > Chris G said, "Boy I gotta agree, any of those cheating husbands and
>  > philanderers should be barred from making speeches at the convention.  Of
>  > course that would include John McCain after what he did to his wife and
>  two
>  > kids after he came back. Got a new undamaged model with lots of money,
>  > prenup or not.  Does it matter?  Careful there are lots of glass houses.
>  > Should we bar those who have killed a person in a car accident that they
>  > caused?  Ok that keeps out Ted Kennedy, but also Laura Bush.  Should we
>  bar
>  > someone who stole drugs (in one case from a non-profit set up to help war
>  > victims), and forged
>  > prescriptions well I guess that would shut up Mrs. McCain and Rush
>  Limbaugh.
>  > Tootle, help me out, to be fair and balanced I need a drug thieving
>  democrat
>  > to balance this out. Oh I know Marion Berry should do."
>  >
>  > Responses as follows:
>  >
>  > As to John McCain - after how many years in a North Viet Nam prison? - He
>  > had adjustment problems when he came back.  How much time did you spend in
>  > the Hanoi Hilton?  He later realized he screwed up and admits it.  Too
>  late,
>  > but after some time he came around and has since lead a better life, other
>  > wise he would not be where he is.
>  >
>  > As to Ted Kennedy, I have always believed that he was drunk.  However, the
>  > lady was in the back seat was in the same state.  Alcohol consumption is
>  not
>  > a legal excuse for killing another or is it Ben C?
>  >
>  > As to Laura Bush at 17, poor driving skills kill many teenagers.  Is that
>  > not the reason that age group has the highest insurance rates?  Are you
>  > telling us that your judgment and driving skills have not changed since
>  you
>  > were 17?
>  >
>  > As to drug addition and subsequently forging prescriptions, the medication
>  > that Rush became addicted to was a problem that the drug company did not
>  > correctly monitor and once the problem was known, physicians failed to
>  > follow up for addition.  Initially the drug was proscribed correctly, but
>  > the prescribing doctor did not follow up making sure that no addition
>  > occurred.
>  >
>  > Once you are addicted, you the person is no longer in control.  Have you
>  > never dealt with alcoholics?  If not, never ever again, give a recovered
>  > alcoholic 100% trust.
>  >
>  > There is a big problem in America with prescription drugs.  Often doctors
>  > are getting kickbacks from the drug companies and so are more willing to
>  > prescribe feel good drugs when they should not.  Yes this is partly the
>  > patients fault for asking for such drugs, but again, once there is
>  addition.
>  >
>  > The points that you raised are fair to raise and be addressed but they are
>  > distinguishable from a lawyer, who as part of bar qualifying has specific
>  > ethics training from committing perjury.   I have said that his
>  philandering
>  > is one thing, but his committing perjury is a whole different matter.  And
>  > as Ben C said he was suspended for five years for doing it.  The Arkansas
>  > Bar said even a former President needed his ____ slapped for doing it.
>  >
>  > So I have partially addressed your comments.
>  >
>  > Ed K
>  > Greenville, SC, USA
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