[Rhodes22-list] Politics - Sexism

Tue Sep 2 07:52:58 EDT 2008

Slim,

You wrote, " Have you forgotten that unemployment is at a high,
poverty level is rising,
people are without jobs, median income is down, no health care, the needless
and costly war in Iraq, the depleting of SS, the vanishing pensions, the
enormous debt?   What do you want for Chrisssake?   This is not the Bill I
know!"

Slim, you cannot shout your way into a recession, or maybe you can,
but, unemployment is NOT at a high, you make yourself sound silly by
saying so.  You want to end poverty, create jobs, increase income, and
provide healthcare, good, so does everyone with half a brain.  That
means you need to grow the economy and it takes energy to do that.

You left a small detail out of Sarah's resume, she also was Chairman
of the Alaska Oil and Gas Commission.  Lest you think this was some
"beauty queen" do-nothing job, she oversaw 20% of the US domestic oil
production.  What did she do there?  She found corruption and heads
rolled.

The left took one look at Sarah Palin and made an instant judgement.
Yes Slim, your sexism is showing along with a lot of others.  Spend a
little more time examining her record and then make a decision. The
one area she is weak in is foreign policy, same as Obama.  Obama went
to Iraq, Sarah went to Kuwait, Obama went to Germany to make a speech
to Germans and work out, Sarah went to Germany to visit her wounded
Alaska Guardsmen in the hospital.  Obama went to Canada to apologize
for trash-talking NAFTA, Sarah went to Canada to negotiate a pipeline
deal shortcutting "Big Oil" because they tried to take her and
Alaskans for granted.

We've all had a long time to examine Obama, and every time I peel off
another layer I see more corrupt Chicago politician and more Marxism.

You are watching history in the making.  A lot of folks like me were
planning on dragging themselves to the polls to vote against Obama and
for McCain only by default.  Now we have something to be excited
about.  You may not understand it but the movement is real.  You go
girl!

Palin/Jindal/12

Brad

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 1:23 AM, Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
> Bill,
>
> I want to ask you the same question.  What's going on here?  Do you really
> advocate electing a VP who has only been the mayor of a town of less than
> 9000 and a Gov. for two years?  OK, so she was able to ruffle the feathers
> of some of the GOP.  Is that why you're backing her?  Is that where you're
> really hanging you hat?  That's not the Bill I know.
>
> I made a mistake when I wrote that she's pro-choice.  I was wrong.  Bad
> information.  Is pro-life what you're advocating?  That's not the Bill I
> know.
>
> We know you're a disgruntled Hillary supporter and we know you think Obama's
> a crook re the campaign finances.   So are you really jumping ship on that
> issue?  That's not the Bill I know.
>
> Have you forgotten that unemployment is at a high, poverty level is rising,
> people are without jobs, median income is down, no health care, the needless
> and costly war in Iraq, the depleting of SS, the vanishing pensions, the
> enormous debt?   What do you want for Chrisssake?   This is not the Bill I
> know!
>
> What has the war in Iraq done for us?  Nothing, unless you're Haliburton.
> Follow the money!
>
> It's time you get over Hillary's loss and join the fray.  OBAMA IN 08!!!!
>
> "Change,"  "Hope,"  anything to elect a Democrat as the next President!  I
> want something to be done!
>
> Health Care.  Nay-sayers are quick to point out flaws in Canada, Norway or
> where ever.  Why not assume we can do it better than any of those other
> countries.  We're NOT Canada or Norway!  Why shouldn't we  show the world
> how it's done?  Why couldn't we put together a system that beats all?
> THAT'S the American way of doing things!!!
>
> The assistant minister to health care in Kazakhstan, Sheila O'Dougherty, who
> makes it her job to understand the health care systems of the world and also
> happens to be my cousin, says we already have the funds to do this if we
> decide to.  It wouldn't necessarily demand extra taxes.  Why are we fighting
> this?  Because Republicans don't like the idea of "Socialized Medicine" even
> though all the world's greatest country's have adopted it.  Why not do it
> and be the best at it?
>
> Bill, I'm sorry you think Barack's a crook.  Maybe he is, but at least he's
> in good company.  He's a politician after all.   Campaign fiance faux
> pax--Stop the frickin' presses!   Get over yourself and support the
> democrats!  Stop this Hillary weeping and move on to what you know is right!
>
> Slim
>
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 4:01 AM, Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
>
>> Slim,
>>
>> I'm surprised at the sexist comments.
>>
>> What's going on here?
>>
>> Obama has accomplished nothing and gone along with corrupt Cook County
>> Machine politics for his entire career.  He has only won rigged
>> elections, and stood up to nobody.  He started running for President 2
>> years after becoming a US Senator, and has taken all sides on every
>> position.  He is young, charismatic, attractive, inexperienced..."A
>> Candidate Who Represents Change"...oh! and did I mention...he's a man.
>>
>> So along comes this woman who fought the good ol' boy network in her own
>> party and beat them.  She taxed oil companies.  Stood up to venerated
>> party leaders.  Fought corruption and wasteful spending.  She talks the
>> talk and walks the walk.  She opposes abortion and had a Down Syndrome
>> child.  She supports the military and one of her children is in Iraq.
>> She is young, charismatic, attractive, inexperienced..."A Candidate Who
>> Represents Change".  She was Governor for 2 years before running for the
>> office of Vice President.
>>
>> But the "don't smear our boy" campaign immediately put out email all
>> over the internet smearing her as "poofy".
>>
>> The good ol' boys running Obama's campaign have a long history of
>> smearing women.  They smeared Hillary.  They smeared Geraldine Ferraro.
>> Now they are smearing Palin.
>>
>> I'm really surprised you passed this smear along.  I know you better.
>>
>> Bill Effros
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Steven Alm wrote:
>> > Brad,
>> >
>> > I think she's right about ANWR.  Yep, that's me who said that.  You know
>> I'm
>> > a liberal but I'm pulling for more domestic drilling.  And you can
>> > definitely put me in the "all of the above" column.
>> >
>> > BUT...  let's say McCain dies and she's the pres.  Do you think she's
>> ready
>> > to lock horns with the likes of Vlad "The Impaler" Putin?  Kim Jong Il?
>> > Ahmadinnerjacket?  So much for the argument over Obama's inexperience.
>>  I'd
>> > want Barack to face off with those characters WAY more than Poofy Palin.
>> >
>> > McCain is obviously playing to the upset Clinton supporters.  She's
>> > pro-choice.  She's a loose cannon among the GOP (Greed Over People) and
>> this
>> > will not help him in his party.  He's vying for the independents and the
>> > women but it won't work.  He just sealed Obama's victory.  Thank God he
>> > didn't pick Pawlenty which might have turned our blue state to red and
>> left
>> > us with Carol Molnau as our gov.  Whew!
>> >
>> > Slim
>> >
>> > On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 7:25 PM, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> Here's your "lightweight" beauty queen "minority" pick on ANWR.
>> >>
>> >> http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=836304396
>> >>
>> >> Lot's of "big boys" didn't take the Guv serious and got their "clocks
>> >> cleaned".
>> >>
>> >> Brad
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