[Rhodes22-list] Information gathering

Herb Parsons hparsons at parsonsys.com
Tue Sep 2 09:03:44 EDT 2008


Good, I'm glad we both agree that it was a civil post. So, even though 
old, it still fit the new "decorum" rules. Thanks for the welcome back.

elle wrote:
> Herb,
>
> You do have a wonderful way of trying to put folks on the defensive. I'm not there, nor am I going there, and this will be the last I say on the matter. And I imagine others on the list feel as I do.
>
> Earlier this summer, the list agreed to a decorum of sorts which would abstain from any of the nastiness which had defined some posts in the past. The posts hence, even tho' political in nature, have been informative w/o being inflammatory. We have all benefitted from this discourse which brings out a higher level thinking than did namecalling and derision. 
>
> I merely pointed out that you were responding to items which were very old news & did not warrant being dredged up again. I also do not use Nabble, but in this instance, with your being so far behind in the posts, it might be worthwhile to see where a discussion led before responding. That's all.
>
> I did not find your post to be non-civil, nor did I imply or say so, and please do not try to suck me into a p*ssing match, as I have been there with the best and have triumphed. 
>
> I taught 9th graders....nothing scares me..;^) hahaha 
>
>
> Again, welcome, back, peace pipe, wampum...but let's move on. ;^)
>
> Hannah approaches. 
>
>
> elle
>
> We can't change the angle of the wind....but we can adjust our sails.
>
> 1992 Rhodes 22   Recyc '06  "WaterMusic"   (Lady in Red)
>
>
> --- On Mon, 9/1/08, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> From: Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Information gathering
>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Date: Monday, September 1, 2008, 11:26 PM
>> That's nice, if one uses Nabble. I never signed up for
>> Nabble, and 
>> prefer to check my email by using.... well my email client.
>>
>> I'm sorry you found my post not to be civil. I'm at
>> a loss as to what 
>> qualified it as NOT being civil. Is pointing out that
>> someone else was 
>> being non-civil somehow non-civil in and of itself? If so,
>> does that 
>> also extend to pointing out non-civil remarks about 
>> non-civil remarks?
>>
>> Kinda silly, no?
>>
>> elle wrote:
>>     
>>> On the off chance I will sound like Ed (yikes! Sorry
>>>       
>> Ed...we love ya !) Nabble has the posts threaded....annoying
>> to have to click on each one, but will let you get to the
>> end of the thread & then maybe decide what needs to be
>> responded to...
>>     
>>> Just a suggestion to save a few bits &
>>>       
>> bytes...;^)...and also to keep the grand civility which has
>> reigned for the past 6 wks or so.....we REALLY don't
>> want to go back there. Please.
>>     
>>> Still glad you're back..;^)
>>>
>>> elle
>>>
>>> We can't change the angle of the wind....but we
>>>       
>> can adjust our sails.
>>     
>>> 1992 Rhodes 22   Recyc '06  "WaterMusic"
>>>       
>>   (Lady in Red)
>>     
>>> --- On Mon, 9/1/08, Herb Parsons
>>>       
>> <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:
>>     
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> From: Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Information gathering
>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
>>>>         
>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>     
>>>> Date: Monday, September 1, 2008, 10:39 PM
>>>> Thanks for the admonition Elle, but I realize how
>>>>         
>> old the
>>     
>>>> posts are, and 
>>>> my point remained the same. And I'm sorry,
>>>>         
>> none of
>>     
>>>> these are "threads", 
>>>> such that you can read an entire group of posts.
>>>>         
>> It's a
>>     
>>>> mail list, not a 
>>>> true forum. I respond to 'em as I read
>>>>         
>> 'em.
>>     
>>>> elle wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> Hey, Herb,
>>>>>
>>>>> You are responding to (or dredging up) topics
>>>>>           
>> over 6
>>     
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> weeks old....the debates have already been settled
>>>>         
>> & the
>>     
>>>> past rancorous events over & done with.
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> There has been a concerted effort on the part
>>>>>           
>> of all
>>     
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> list members to hold debates to the subject at
>>>>         
>> hand and
>>     
>>>> avoid any appearance of aggression.
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> The current poiltical posts have been
>>>>>           
>> enlightening,
>>     
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> keeping to the topics w/o any shoutouts. This can
>>>>         
>> only raise
>>     
>>>> the level of debate.
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> Please read the entire threads before
>>>>>           
>> responding to
>>     
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> these ancient posts. Let's NOT start anything
>>>>         
>> all over
>>     
>>>> again.
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> Many thanks & welcome back.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> elle
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We can't change the angle of the
>>>>>           
>> wind....but we
>>     
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> can adjust our sails.
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> 1992 Rhodes 22   Recyc '06 
>>>>>           
>> "WaterMusic"
>>     
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>   (Lady in Red)
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> --- On Mon, 9/1/08, Herb Parsons
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>   
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>> From: Herb Parsons
>>>>>>             
>> <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>>     
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Information
>>>>>>             
>> gathering
>>     
>>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>> Date: Monday, September 1, 2008, 9:44 PM
>>>>>> Let's see, Brad posted his opinion
>>>>>>             
>> there, and
>>     
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>> really
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>> attacked no one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And you responded how???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry folks, but someone calling another
>>>>>>             
>> person a
>>     
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>> blowhard,
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>> no matter 
>>>>>> how nicely, is still name-calling.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John Lock wrote:
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> At 04:37 PM 7/23/2008 -0500, Brad
>>>>>>>               
>> Haslett
>>     
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>               
>>>> wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> Nah!  I save apologies for when
>>>>>>>>                 
>> they
>>     
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>> involve $$$$.
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>  A student wrote me up a
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> couple of months ago for swearing
>>>>>>>>                 
>> in the
>>     
>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>> classroom.  He was playing "stump
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> the professor" with engine
>>>>>>>>                 
>> operation
>>     
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>> and
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>> I'd had enough so I explained
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> engines with the
>>>>>>>>                 
>> suck/squeeze/bang/blow
>>     
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>> theory 
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>> and a couple of other choice
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> words. I knew at the time he was
>>>>>>>>                 
>> setting
>>     
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>> me up and
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>> was going to run it up
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> the PC flagpole but couldn't
>>>>>>>>                 
>> resist
>>     
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>> taking the
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>> bait.  This list is one of
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> the few places where you ignore
>>>>>>>>                 
>> the PC
>>     
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>> police and
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>> speak freely.  If we lose
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> that, we've lost period.
>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>> Jeez, how many times do we have to
>>>>>>>               
>> hear that
>>     
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>               
>>>> story?! 
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> We get the 
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> picture, you do everything bigger,
>>>>>>>               
>> faster,
>>     
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>               
>>>> longer,
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> harder, louder, 
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> better than anybody else.  But man, it
>>>>>>>               
>> gets
>>     
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>               
>>>> tedious
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> after a 
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> while.  Give it a rest, will ya?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John Lock
>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
>>>>>>> Lake Sinclair, GA
>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>               
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