[Rhodes22-list] Paul Krawitz and Andrew Collins and other interested parties about Political discussion is diluting the value of the current Rhodes 22 forum

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elle

We can't change the angle of the wind....but we can adjust our sails.

1992 Rhodes 22   Recyc '06  "WaterMusic"   (Lady in Red)


--- On Wed, 9/3/08, Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:

> From: Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Paul Krawitz and Andrew Collins and other interested parties about Political discussion is diluting the value of the current Rhodes 22 forum
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 7:47 AM
> Folks,
> 
> Your comments about this forum are made a couple of times a
> year (?) or at
> least a couple of times every couple of years.  Believe it
> or not there are
> there other Rhodes forums.  When there is no activity on a
> forum the
> subscribers cease.  Ask Cowie how many responses he got on
> another forum?
> 
> While it would be nice to have all sailing or boat related
> posts, history
> has shown that does not happen.  That results in having a
> couple of posts a
> year and negibible members.  Bill Effros recently called
> this list, "Rummy's
> Bar".  Some people would never step foot into a bar. 
> However, how many
> sailors never have an "adult beverage".  This is
> an old fashion tavern on
> the corner, an early American institution.
>  
> This email forum was created off one of that very
> restrictive email list. 
> It was comical to see about every third day a post asking,
> "Is this list
> working?' or 'Test' or some similar post.  So a
> number of members of that
> list asked if there was a way to have an active forum. 
> Captain Michael
> Meltzer, a New York City computer guru offered to host a
> polyglot forum and
> a wide open forum was agreed upon.  This list is the
> evolution of that
> forum.
> 
> Many have disagreed with the format and opinions offered. 
> Many stated that
> they were leaving in disgust.  However, a sailing
> knowledgeable group
> remains.  There are still other restricted forums around. 
> But do they have
> traffic and responses?  A group without responses helps
> nobody.
> 
> Occasionally members of this forum get together in
> different parts of the
> country.  Occasionally members visit other members while in
> other parts of
> the country.  Often groups meet and dine at the boat shows.
>  
> 
> Paul that was a great picture you attached.  Do you have a
> trailer for your
> boat?  Maybe it is time to drag your boat and family to
> meet some others?  
> 
> There is still just enough water in Lake Hartwell to launch
> a Rhodes 22. 
> The water level at the end of our ramps is at four feet. 
> There is still 150
> feet of water in the channel.  Dare to explore.  We have
> good restaurants in
> the upstate of South Carolina.  We have football games.  We
> have access to
> mountains. 
> 
> Last weekend the parking lot on Black Balsam Mountain was
> so full the cars,
> trucks, SUV's were parking on both sides of the road. 
> Shinning Rock
> Wilderness was crowded.  Shinning Rock Ridge has been miss
> named it should
> be called 'Blue Berry Mountain'.  Hoards of people
> were picking gallons of
> blue berries.  
> 
> There still might be a few left this weekend.  Come and
> pick wild blue
> berries at 6,000 feet.  Since it has recently rained up
> there it is safe to
> eat and pick. How many gallons were eaten instead of going
> into all those
> plastic milk jugs?  Oh, but I digressed from sailing...
> 
> References:
> 
> http://www.sas.usace.army.mil/lakes/hartwell/hartrampstat.htm
> 
> http://www.justbbq.com/
> 
> http://www.northcarolinaoutdoors.com/places/mountains/shiningrock.html
> 
> 
> Ed K
> Greenville, SC, USA
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Andrew Collins s/v Carmen wrote:
> > 
> > Paul
> > 
> > I could not agree more. This forum has abandoned
> sailing in all but form,
> > and as to decorum, courtesy, tolerance and respect for
> others, both as to
> > people and opinions (in my mind at least these are
> different) we are
> > plumbing new depths. Elle managed to raise the bar a
> few weeks ago (hats
> > off!), but methinks I need a break. I am going
> sailing.
> > 
> > Andrew
> > s/v Carmen
> > 
> > 
> > On 9/2/08, Robert Skinner
> <Robert at squirrelhaven.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Paul, I hope you have your bullet proof vest on...
> >> /Robert
> >>
> >>
> >> Paul Krawitz wrote:
> >> > While I appreciate the desire for people to
> express theirpolitical
> >> > viewpoints, the use of Rhodes22.orgas the
> vehicle to do this dilutes
> >> the
> >> > value of this
> >> > newsgroup for informational exchange
> regarding sailing, engines,
> >> > rigging, boating venues, and of course, the
> Rhodes 22 itself.
> >> >
> >> > Consequently, although I have received
> several
> >> > helpful communications regarding my second
> Rhodes,
> >> > I find myself deleting the discussions
> automatically
> >> > unless I've posted a question. Thus, I
> miss out on
> >> > potentially useful information.
> >> >
> >> > Is it possible that an alternate discussion
> group could
> >> > be created for those subscribers who wish to
> pursue
> >> > political commentary, thus maintaining the
> "purity" of
> >> > the Rhodes22.org web site and newsgroup?
> >> >
> >> > Are there any other subscribers who concur?
> >> >
> >> > Paul K
> >> > "Clarity"
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