[Rhodes22-list] Outboard Stalling
MichaelT
mticse at gmail.com
Wed Sep 3 20:39:26 EDT 2008
Looks like the fuel filter did the trick but also replaced the motor side
hose end connector.
Tested while docked in forward gear in 3/4 throttle 3 times. Ran like a
champ !
Michael
MichaelT wrote:
>
> Just checked my local Yamaha dealer and luckily they have all the parts
> waiting for me:
>
> 1) 2 x Diaphram & Gasket
> 2) Fuel filter
> 3) Primer bulb
>
> I will recheck the venting and replace the screw if needed.
>
> I plan to replace all and hope for the best :)
>
> Thanks Rummy/Mike !
>
> Michael
>
>
> R22RumRunner wrote:
>>
>> Mike,
>> Most fuel pumps that I've seen over the years have two or three screws
>> holding the cover in place. Replacing the diaphragm is easy. This is one
>> you can
>> do. Most fuel pumps are mounted on the side of the engine casing because
>> it
>> uses the vacuum of the motor for power.
>>
>> Rummy
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 9/2/2008 4:47:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> mticse at gmail.com writes:
>>
>>
>> Rummy,
>>
>> Is this something I can do? My water pump also gave out at the begining
>> of
>> the season. Got a parts diagram from a local dealer, unbelievably a
>> water
>> pump kit was in stock, worked off the parts diagram and replaced the the
>> impeller myself. So I'm somewhat mechanical. Can you give a brief
>> instruction on what to do? Any possibly complications I might
>> experience?
>>
>> I was able to locate the diaphram (2 sited) you speak of off the
>> carbeurator
>> diagram online (thanks to Mike). I suppose just order the parts and off
>> I
>> go?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> R22RumRunner wrote:
>>>
>>> You all are close to the problem, but it's so obvious that it often is
>>> forgotten. After 20 years of use, the diaphragm in the fuel pump has
>>> quit
>>> working.
>>> The parts can be had from your dealer. The kit comes with everything
>>> you
>>> need to replace it: new diaphragm and gasket. All together it's a
>>> fifteen
>>> minute
>>> job.
>>>
>>> Rummy
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 9/2/2008 3:05:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> mweisner at ebsmed.com writes:
>>>
>>> Michael T,
>>>
>>> You may wish to check out the Yamaha parts website at:;
>>> http://www.yamaha-motor.com/outboard/parts/home.aspx
>>>
>>> Put in the following:
>>> Step 1: Product Line = Outboard
>>> Step 2: Year = (your motor's year)
>>> Step 3: Model = (your motor's model or select one of the 8hp)
>>>
>>> I tried a 1988 8hp long shaft as a guess and found the attached image
>>> of
>>> the
>>> gas tank & filter (#22) (it is probably at the very bottom of the
>>> email)
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>>
>>> From: "MichaelT" <mticse at gmail.com>Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008
>>> 1:29
>>> PM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OK...some basic questions Mike:
>>>>
>>>> Where's the fuel filter? Its not refrenced in the Yamaha owner's
>>>> manual.
>>>> Btw, I disconnected the hose at the tank end and blew air into the
>>>> tank
>>>> hose
>>>> opening (w/ my mouth) and was/felt clear. I wanted to disassemble the
>>>> top
>>>> pf
>>>> the tank where the hose enters but did not see any screws.
>>>>
>>>> I suppose if the fuel filt fix doesn't work we'll move to option #2,
>>>> replace
>>>> the hose/primer bulb assembly.
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> R22MikeW wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael T,
>>>>>
>>>>> Open the tank filler cap and see if it runs. If it does, the tank
>>>>> vent
>>
>>>>> is
>>>>> clogged. If it doesn't, you need to check the fuel filter for an
>>>>> obstruction or clog. It may be easier to replace rather than check.
>>>>> Lastly, you may have a bad fuel pump (the primer bulb may be
>>>>> actually
>>>>> filling the fuel bowl.) I have also seen problems in the primer
>>>>> bulb
>>>>> where
>>>>> the one-way valve fails, preventing fuel draw by the engine. The
>>>>> remedy
>>>>> is
>>>>> a ne primer bulb which includes the valves. Let's hope that it is
>>>>> simply
>>>>> a
>>>>> clogged tank vent. Let me know what you find. If it is a reliable
>>>>> engine
>>>>> otherwise, this is too simple a problem to deep six it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>>>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "MichaelT" <mticse at gmail.com>Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008
>>>>> 12:33
>>>>> PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a Yamaha 8hp/2-Stroke outboard that is continuing to stall
>>>>>> everytime I
>>>>>> use it. The fix that I've had to perform while the outboard is
>>>>>> running
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> by
>>>>>> continuing to squeeze/pump the primer bulb every 30 secs or so.
>>>>>> Somehow
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> motor is not properly sucking in the gas. All hose clamps have been
>>>>>> tightened w/ no obstruction on the gas tank side. Any ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The motor is 20 years old. Hence, also considering getting a
>>>>>> Yamaha/Tohatsu
>>>>>> replacement. I like the Yamaha because of the shift lever being
>>>>>> located
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> the motor tiller handle (and electric start, remote control
>>>>>> capabilites),
>>>>>> the Tohatsu for its simplicity. Looks like 2 strokes are outlawed,
>>>>>> can't
>>>>>> find them anywhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope everyone had a good summer sailing. I had a wonderful time
>>>>>> thus
>>>>>> far
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> my first year w/ my Rhodes and look forward to extending the season
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> far
>>>>>> as I can!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>> s/v Silverside
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