[Rhodes22-list] A Case for Obama; Calm Yourself Tootle (politics)

Richard and Sherry Day dayz at iowatelecom.net
Sat Sep 6 23:53:35 EDT 2008


Yes Sir, you are almost right.  If we could all have our senior moment and 
forget about the last eight years then the complaining would indeed be 
baseless.   jr.  :):):)
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] A Case for Obama;Calm Yourself Tootle 
(politics)


> Let's see if I understand this right - baseless complaining about the
> current situation is "thoughtful commentary" and "a breath of fresh
> air", and calling  him on it is "staile farts from grumpy old men"
>
> I suspect that Obama does look good to a kid that's traded Mommy's teat
> for that of the government; however, us "grumpy old men" that pay our
> way want to cut off the flow.
>
> Live with it jr.
>
> Richard and Sherry Day wrote:
>> Ben, Thank you for the thoughtful commentary.  I enjoy reading everyone's
>> comments but yours was a breath of fresh air.   I think some of the last
>> responses to your email sound like stale farts from grumpy old men.  They
>> need to cool their jets and calm down life's too short someone's going to
>> have a stroke.  Richard Day
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 6:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] A Case for Obama;Calm Yourself Tootle
>> (politics)
>>
>>
>>
>>> And Ben, you, by the same token, can throw terms like "really dangerous
>>> bad guys", "waste our resources", "cowboyd diplomacy", "abuses of our
>>> ... constitution", "reproductive choices" (you folks just HATE calling
>>> it "killing embryos, don't you?), etc etc. around. When you do so, it's
>>> just more political hyperbole.
>>>
>>> Remember, when you do those things, they say a lot about who you are.
>>>
>>> And, no recommendations on beverages, just a suggestion for a little
>>> self-reflection and a dropping of stones.
>>>
>>> Ben Cittadino wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Tootle & Other Colleagues;
>>>>
>>>> I suggest there are explanations for those of us who intend (if the 
>>>> Good
>>>> Lord is willing and the creek don't rise) to vote for Senator Obama 
>>>> other
>>>> than those put forward in your latest screed. I prefer to focus on 
>>>> policy
>>>> issues as they relate to both candidates, rather than the hysterical
>>>> rantings of fearful conspiracy theorists.  People who support Obama 
>>>> tend
>>>> to want us out of Iraq sooner rather than later, want us to focus on 
>>>> the
>>>> really dangerous bad guys in Afghanistan rather than waste our 
>>>> resources
>>>> chasing folks who don't matter in the wrong place.  We tend to be the
>>>> people who believe collaborative efforts overseas are more likely to be
>>>> in our long term best interests more than cowboy diplomacy.  We tend to
>>>> think Sen Obama may be more likely to be accepted as an honest broker
>>>> between the Israeli Government and the Palestinians to bring about the
>>>> two-state solution all reasonable people want in that theater.  We
>>>> believe Obama is more likely to appoint Federal Judges w!
>>>>
>>> ho!
>>>
>>>>   understand that they are the last best defense between the potential
>>>> abuses of our wonderful Constitutional Rights by an out-of-control
>>>> Executive branch, and who will guard "The Great Writ"(habeas corpus), 
>>>> the
>>>> single most powerful human rights tool since the creation of the 
>>>> planet,
>>>> against the Dick Cheney wannabes.  We believe Obama is more likely to
>>>> support federal policies encouraging embryonic stem cell research,
>>>> climate change research, alternative fuels, support of the public
>>>> schools, teaching of Darwinian natural selection (evolution) as opposed
>>>> to Biblical Creation Science (?).  We don't view gays who want to make
>>>> the same commitments to each other as heterosexuals as a threat, and
>>>> we're happy to have them serve their country in the military, and we
>>>> think Obama is more likely to adopt policies toward those ends. We 
>>>> think
>>>> the reproductive choices made by women are none of our or the
>>>> government's business and we have good reason to believe Obama is more
>>>> likely to fe!
>>>>
>>> el!
>>>
>>>>   the same way and act accordingly.
>>>> Tootle, you can throw words like marxism and sheep around all you want.
>>>> Just remember if you do it it says alot more about you than it does 
>>>> about
>>>> us.
>>>>
>>>> One friendly suggestion.  Maybe you should switch to decaf .
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>> Ben C., s/v Susan Kay, Hughlands, NJ
>>>>
>>>> "Steer toward the iceberg, and speed up!"- George W. Bush
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