[Rhodes22-list] A Case for Obama; Calm Yourself Tootle (politics)

[Steven Alm]

"it's
just more political hyperbole."

No it's not, Herb, it's ideology.

"Remember, when you do those things, they say a lot about who you are."

Damn right!

Slim


On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:

> And Ben, you, by the same token, can throw terms like "really dangerous
> bad guys", "waste our resources", "cowboyd diplomacy", "abuses of our
> ... constitution", "reproductive choices" (you folks just HATE calling
> it "killing embryos, don't you?), etc etc. around. When you do so, it's
> just more political hyperbole.
>
> it's
> just more political hyperbole.
>
> And, no recommendations on beverages, just a suggestion for a little
> self-reflection and a dropping of stones.
>
> Ben Cittadino wrote:
> >  Tootle & Other Colleagues;
> >
> > I suggest there are explanations for those of us who intend (if the Good
> Lord is willing and the creek don't rise) to vote for Senator Obama other
> than those put forward in your latest screed. I prefer to focus on policy
> issues as they relate to both candidates, rather than the hysterical
> rantings of fearful conspiracy theorists.  People who support Obama tend to
> want us out of Iraq sooner rather than later, want us to focus on the really
> dangerous bad guys in Afghanistan rather than waste our resources chasing
> folks who don't matter in the wrong place.  We tend to be the people who
> believe collaborative efforts overseas are more likely to be in our long
> term best interests more than cowboy diplomacy.  We tend to think Sen Obama
> may be more likely to be accepted as an honest broker between the Israeli
> Government and the Palestinians to bring about the two-state solution all
> reasonable people want in that theater.  We believe Obama is more likely to
> appoint Federal Judges w!
>  ho!
> >   understand that they are the last best defense between the potential
> abuses of our wonderful Constitutional Rights by an out-of-control Executive
> branch, and who will guard "The Great Writ"(habeas corpus), the single most
> powerful human rights tool since the creation of the planet, against the
> Dick Cheney wannabes.  We believe Obama is more likely to support federal
> policies encouraging embryonic stem cell research, climate change research,
> alternative fuels, support of the public schools, teaching of Darwinian
> natural selection (evolution) as opposed to Biblical Creation Science (?).
>  We don't view gays who want to make the same commitments to each other as
> heterosexuals as a threat, and we're happy to have them serve their country
> in the military, and we think Obama is more likely to adopt policies toward
> those ends. We think the reproductive choices made by women are none of our
> or the government's business and we have good reason to believe Obama is
> more likely to fe!
>  el!
> >   the same way and act accordingly.
> > Tootle, you can throw words like marxism and sheep around all you want.
>  Just remember if you do it it says alot more about you than it does about
> us.
> >
> > One friendly suggestion.  Maybe you should switch to decaf .
> >
> > Cheers!
> > Ben C., s/v Susan Kay, Hughlands, NJ
> >
> > "Steer toward the iceberg, and speed up!"- George W. Bush
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