[Rhodes22-list] Praise Jesus, the Republicans are going to save us from the Republicans

[petelargo]

Ben, thanks for your post. As you may have noticed, there is no dialogue with
the right-wing extremists. You are wrong, end of discussion and your an
idiot to boot.

When John McCain won the nomination, Bush disappears overseas. At the RNC,
no Bush, no Cheney (and no mention of them). They know it's a failed
administration. Where were the solutions. Once again, they are trying to
frame the campaign as an ideology argument rather than an issues discussion. 

Today on Face the Nation, "Sis Cum Ba and WHA-LAA", McCain is now the change
candidate and stated that he will end the incredible corruption in
Washington and the failed policies. John McCain has re-defined a whole new
level of flip-flopping on over two dozen key issues within the last eight
years including his own authored bill that he was for and now against. 

I couldn't give a poop about the experience argument of Palin vs Obama. It's
a waste of time.  The entire Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld-Rice-Rove, etc
administration could be argued to be the most experienced administration in
the history of the White House. A huge amount of prior "executive
experience".  For the first time in recent politics the Republicans had the
power in the white house, judicial, house and senate. How was it for you? 
It's one thing to drive a tractor trailer up our butts, but when they start
blowing on the horn while there're doing it, it's really gone too far. 

A big thank you for the memories: the debt, the dead, the twisting
intelligence to "sell" us a war on a country that did not attack us, the
good ol boy ineffectual cronyism, and finally the shredding of the
constitution. With Palin we now we get to have another religious kook to
satisfy the so-called conservative extremist religious right to 'bridge'
them into this administration and get money.

Spending 5-10 billion dollars a month on Iraq and kissing chinese ass
(borrowing the money) of the most Marxist suppressive government on the
planet at this time is a conservative value? 

Finally, the biggest hypocrisy of all . That these extremists actually think
that they and the republicans are the vanguards of conservatism?  The two
top key pillars of conservatism are less government and government intrusion
and fiscal responsibility.  The only administration that walked that talk in
50 years was a Democrat that left Bush a 500 billion dollar surplus. He blew
threw that in one year and it was prior to 9-11.  And there is no greater
government intrusion that being told what you can or cannot do with or put
into your body. Palin wants privacy for her family decisions, but she wants
to legislate publicly what you should do with yours. No thanks.



Ben Cittadino-2 wrote:
> 
> My Dear Culture Warriors;
> 
> So....are we having fun yet?
> 
> First, I'd like to thank Richard and Slim for stepping up to join the
> "Assault on the Citadel".  
> The bullets don't sting as much when the adversary's fire is spread out
> among more than one target.
> In the words first uttered by Gen. "Vinegar Joe" Stillwell, "illegitimi
> non carborundum".
> 
> As for Tootle, Brad, and Herb, you guys crack me up.  I posted about Obama
> only because I saw Tootle's post that 
> suggested anybody supporting Obama was either a marxist, or a farm animal. 
> What did he expect when he said that?
> Herb, where was your outrage that Tootle would refer to some of his fellow
> "Rhodies" in such derogatry terms? Supporting Obama or McCain 
> may turn out to be right or wrong, but if we debate policy and don't
> engage in mere name-calling this "sailor's bar"  could be an interesting
> place.
> 
> Richard's "geezer" remarks are defensible on several grounds. First, he
> was provoked. Second, he was defending ME.
> Third, it was funny. Calling someone a "marxist" as Tootle did is several
> magnitudes worse than gentle kidding of the 
> "old fart" kind. Surely you see the difference.
> 
> The positions I tried to lay out as reasons some people support Obama were
> intended as an outline of ideology (as Slim noted), 
> not an argument supporting any position.  For example, Herb, you are
> pro-life and will probably vote for McCain/Palin in part for that reason.
> I am pro-choice, pro-embryonic stem cell research and so I will support
> Obama/Biden in part for that reason.  It is not hyperbole to  point out
> the policy differences that explain my choice.  What I know for sure is
> that marxism and "sheepiness" have nothing to do with it. I have thought
> about all of my positions on the issues I mentioned and am completely
> prepared to explain and justify them.  In Brad's oft' repeated mantra I
> know I have "done my homework".
> 
> Enough for today. The games will be on soon. 
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Ben C. , s/v Susan Kay, Highlands, NJ
> 
> 
> 
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