[Rhodes22-list] A Case for Obama; Calm Yourself Tootle

[Herb Parsons]

Interesting that you find personal attacks OK, as long as they're in 
your defense, and that calling someone a Marxist based on their 
political leanings "several magnitudes worse" than attacking them 
personally based on... oh yeah, they have a different view. For what 
it's worth, Marxism is an ideology.

And exactly how was Richard "provoked"... Oh yeah, other statements were 
disputed. I forgot, we're dealing with lefties here.

Obviously, taking a anti abortion or pro abortion stance is not 
hyperbole. However, when you xtend MY view to implying that I'm in favor 
of dictating a woman's reproduction, that is indeed hyperbole. I'm all 
for birght control, I'm simply against destroying human life to get there.

Ben Cittadino wrote:
> My Dear Culture Warriors;
>
> So....are we having fun yet?
>
> First, I'd like to thank Richard and Slim for stepping up to join the "Assault on the Citadel".  
> The bullets don't sting as much when the adversary's fire is spread out among more than one target.
> In the words first uttered by Gen. "Vinegar Joe" Stillwell, "illegitimi non carborundum".
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> As for Tootle, Brad, and Herb, you guys crack me up.  I posted about Obama only because I saw Tootle's post that 
> suggested anybody supporting Obama was either a marxist, or a farm animal.  What did he expect when he said that?
> Herb, where was your outrage that Tootle would refer to some of his fellow "Rhodies" in such derogatry terms? Supporting Obama or McCain 
> may turn out to be right or wrong, but if we debate policy and don't engage in mere name-calling this "sailor's bar"  could be an interesting place.
>
> Richard's "geezer" remarks are defensible on several grounds. First, he was provoked. Second, he was defending ME.
> Third, it was funny. Calling someone a "marxist" as Tootle did is several magnitudes worse than gentle kidding of the 
> "old fart" kind. Surely you see the difference.
>
> The positions I tried to lay out as reasons some people support Obama were intended as an outline of ideology (as Slim noted), 
> not an argument supporting any position.  For example, Herb, you are pro-life and will probably vote for McCain/Palin in part for that reason.
> I am pro-choice, pro-embryonic stem cell research and so I will support Obama/Biden in part for that reason.  It is not hyperbole to  point out
> the policy differences that explain my choice.  What I know for sure is that marxism and "sheepiness" have nothing to do with it. I have thought about all of my positions on the issues I mentioned and am completely prepared to explain and justify them.  In Brad's oft' repeated mantra I know I have "done my homework".
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> Enough for today. The games will be on soon. 
>
> Cheers!
>
> Ben C. , s/v Susan Kay, Highlands, NJ
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