[Rhodes22-list] Praise Jesus, the Republicans are going to save us from the Republicans

Mon Sep 8 07:52:15 EDT 2008

Herb,

To buttress what you said, here's a quote from her 2006 campaign-

-Palin opposes abortion and gay marriage. But in December 2006, she
told The Associated Press that her stances on certain lightning-rod
issues would not necessarily translate into public policy.

"I've honestly answered the questions on what my personal views are on
things like abortion and a lot of controversial issues," she said. "I
won't hesitate to answer those questions about what my personal views
are, but I am not one to be out there preaching and forcing my views
on anyone else." -

What's so fun to watch about all this is the Obama people have been
picking up the first sticks they can get their hands on to throw at
Sarah only to find they threw boomerangs. The "Chosen One" really,
really, doesn't want to re-open the issues of his spiritual advisers,
Rev. Wright - "God Damn America", Father Pfleger, and anti-gay James
Meeks (all hiding under the bus with white grandma at the moment).

The other interesting thing that is happening is the MSM  is switching
gears as quickly as possible. The NYT's wrote a "puff piece" yesterday
on Trig and special needs children and today on Palin's faith.  US
magazine is begging subscribers to reconsider their cancellations.
MSNBC demotes Olberman and Mathews.  Funny how a shift in the polls
and the loss of subscribers and advertisers changes loyalty.

Brad

On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 6:18 AM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:
> Ahh, so the "tolerant" lefty has a litmus test for religious beliefs.
> She's already demonstrated that she is fully capable of separating her
> personal beliefs from her duties. She vetoed a bill that would have
> denied benefits to gay couples.
>
> But, you extremists keep it up, I'm sure you'll find (or make up)
> SOMETHING on her.
>
> Steven Alm wrote:
>> She's a creationist.  Her Assembly of God stuff is a deal breaker for me.
>> Religious extremism cannot be tolerated.
>>
>> The most important legacy the president leaves is the appointment of the
>> supreme court.
>> The next pres might appoint as many as three.  If Sarabaracuda has her way,
>> say goodbye to Roe V. Wade and hello to back-ally coat hanger  abortions.
>>
>> Slim
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I think it's funny that the candidate that was considered as a running
>>> mate for the Democratic choice a few years back, is now being touted as
>>> "more of the same". Keep trying though, you guys may find something that
>>> works.
>>>
>>> What exactly makes Palin a "religious kook", that fact that's she
>>> religious? I think your colors are beginning to show.
>>>
>>> petelargo wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ben, thanks for your post. As you may have noticed, there is no dialogue
>>>>
>>> with
>>>
>>>> the right-wing extremists. You are wrong, end of discussion and your an
>>>> idiot to boot.
>>>>
>>>> When John McCain won the nomination, Bush disappears overseas. At the
>>>>
>>> RNC,
>>>
>>>> no Bush, no Cheney (and no mention of them). They know it's a failed
>>>> administration. Where were the solutions. Once again, they are trying to
>>>> frame the campaign as an ideology argument rather than an issues
>>>>
>>> discussion.
>>>
>>>> Today on Face the Nation, "Sis Cum Ba and WHA-LAA", McCain is now the
>>>>
>>> change
>>>
>>>> candidate and stated that he will end the incredible corruption in
>>>> Washington and the failed policies. John McCain has re-defined a whole
>>>>
>>> new
>>>
>>>> level of flip-flopping on over two dozen key issues within the last eight
>>>> years including his own authored bill that he was for and now against.
>>>>
>>>> I couldn't give a poop about the experience argument of Palin vs Obama.
>>>>
>>> It's
>>>
>>>> a waste of time.  The entire Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld-Rice-Rove, etc
>>>> administration could be argued to be the most experienced administration
>>>>
>>> in
>>>
>>>> the history of the White House. A huge amount of prior "executive
>>>> experience".  For the first time in recent politics the Republicans had
>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>> power in the white house, judicial, house and senate. How was it for you?
>>>> It's one thing to drive a tractor trailer up our butts, but when they
>>>>
>>> start
>>>
>>>> blowing on the horn while there're doing it, it's really gone too far.
>>>>
>>>> A big thank you for the memories: the debt, the dead, the twisting
>>>> intelligence to "sell" us a war on a country that did not attack us, the
>>>> good ol boy ineffectual cronyism, and finally the shredding of the
>>>> constitution. With Palin we now we get to have another religious kook to
>>>> satisfy the so-called conservative extremist religious right to 'bridge'
>>>> them into this administration and get money.
>>>>
>>>> Spending 5-10 billion dollars a month on Iraq and kissing chinese ass
>>>> (borrowing the money) of the most Marxist suppressive government on the
>>>> planet at this time is a conservative value?
>>>>
>>>> Finally, the biggest hypocrisy of all . That these extremists actually
>>>>
>>> think
>>>
>>>> that they and the republicans are the vanguards of conservatism?  The two
>>>> top key pillars of conservatism are less government and government
>>>>
>>> intrusion
>>>
>>>> and fiscal responsibility.  The only administration that walked that talk
>>>>
>>> in
>>>
>>>> 50 years was a Democrat that left Bush a 500 billion dollar surplus. He
>>>>
>>> blew
>>>
>>>> threw that in one year and it was prior to 9-11.  And there is no greater
>>>> government intrusion that being told what you can or cannot do with or
>>>>
>>> put
>>>
>>>> into your body. Palin wants privacy for her family decisions, but she
>>>>
>>> wants
>>>
>>>> to legislate publicly what you should do with yours. No thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ben Cittadino-2 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> My Dear Culture Warriors;
>>>>>
>>>>> So....are we having fun yet?
>>>>>
>>>>> First, I'd like to thank Richard and Slim for stepping up to join the
>>>>> "Assault on the Citadel".
>>>>> The bullets don't sting as much when the adversary's fire is spread out
>>>>> among more than one target.
>>>>> In the words first uttered by Gen. "Vinegar Joe" Stillwell, "illegitimi
>>>>> non carborundum".
>>>>>
>>>>> As for Tootle, Brad, and Herb, you guys crack me up.  I posted about
>>>>>
>>> Obama
>>>
>>>>> only because I saw Tootle's post that
>>>>> suggested anybody supporting Obama was either a marxist, or a farm
>>>>>
>>> animal.
>>>
>>>>> What did he expect when he said that?
>>>>> Herb, where was your outrage that Tootle would refer to some of his
>>>>>
>>> fellow
>>>
>>>>> "Rhodies" in such derogatry terms? Supporting Obama or McCain
>>>>> may turn out to be right or wrong, but if we debate policy and don't
>>>>> engage in mere name-calling this "sailor's bar"  could be an interesting
>>>>> place.
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard's "geezer" remarks are defensible on several grounds. First, he
>>>>> was provoked. Second, he was defending ME.
>>>>> Third, it was funny. Calling someone a "marxist" as Tootle did is
>>>>>
>>> several
>>>
>>>>> magnitudes worse than gentle kidding of the
>>>>> "old fart" kind. Surely you see the difference.
>>>>>
>>>>> The positions I tried to lay out as reasons some people support Obama
>>>>>
>>> were
>>>
>>>>> intended as an outline of ideology (as Slim noted),
>>>>> not an argument supporting any position.  For example, Herb, you are
>>>>> pro-life and will probably vote for McCain/Palin in part for that
>>>>>
>>> reason.
>>>
>>>>> I am pro-choice, pro-embryonic stem cell research and so I will support
>>>>> Obama/Biden in part for that reason.  It is not hyperbole to  point out
>>>>> the policy differences that explain my choice.  What I know for sure is
>>>>> that marxism and "sheepiness" have nothing to do with it. I have thought
>>>>> about all of my positions on the issues I mentioned and am completely
>>>>> prepared to explain and justify them.  In Brad's oft' repeated mantra I
>>>>> know I have "done my homework".
>>>>>
>>>>> Enough for today. The games will be on soon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>
>>>>> Ben C. , s/v Susan Kay, Highlands, NJ
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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