[Rhodes22-list] Praise Jesus, the "evolutionists" are going to save us from the Republicans
Todd Tavares
sprocket80 at mail.com
Tue Sep 9 12:11:02 EDT 2008
Mike, For the definition of a half vote look up "hanging chad". Todd T
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael D. Weisner"
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Praise Jesus, the "evolutionists" are
going to save us from the Republicans
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 07:56:43 -0400
Herb,
Half votes? Next you will explain that you're going for the "wild
card"
slot.
Mike
s/v Shanghaid'd Summer ('81)
Nissequogue River, NY
From: "Herb Parsons" Sent: Tuesday, September 09,
2008 3:11 AM
> Great news. I got a dem to abstain. That's as good as half a vote.
We'll
> get this thing locked down yet!
>
> Steven Alm wrote:
>> Herb,
>>
>> Yep, I think he's a kook too.
>>
>> I might actually refuse to vote this time because there are no
candidates
>> who represent me. I'm sick of voting for the lesser of two evils.
>>
>> Slim
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 1:37 AM, Herb Parsons wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Gee Steve, looks like your choices are going to be a bit slim.
>>>
>>> Biden's a practicing Roman Catholic. When asked about abortion,
he said
>>> it's a personal matter, but for him, he accepts the teachings of
his
>>> church. That he "accepts as a matter of faith that life begins at
>>> conception". In other words, he should be equally disqualified as
Palin,
>>> since he would have to put aside his personal beliefs.
>>>
>>> Some of the beliefs that the Roman Catholic Church practices,
teachings
>>> which Biden said he accepts are:
>>>
>>> That God is the creator of everything, "of all that is seen and
unseen".
>>>
>>> They believe in transubstantiation , that the
>>> communion bread and wine is miraculously converted, upon
consecration by
>>> the priest, into the actual body and blood of Jesus Christ.
>>>
>>> They believe in Apostolic Succession, meaning that the priests
are
>>> descendants of the original 12 apostles. This descendancy can be
>>> obtained by the sacrament of ordination by an ordained bishop.
>>>
>>> I could go on, but I think even you get the point, besides, I
would have
>>> to go get my catechism books to remember it all.
>>>
>>> So Steve, does the above mean that Biden is a a "religious kook",
and
>>> that you cannot vote for him, or is HIS "kookiness" covered by a
>>> hypocritical covering that he leans left?
>>>
>>>
>>> Steven Alm wrote:
>>>
>>>> Todd,
>>>>
>>>> I'm an atheist and I think Palin's a religious kook. And you're
right, I
>>>> won't vote for a religious kook. I haven't studied Darwin very
much (and
>>>>
>>> I
>>>
>>>> applaud your research and quotes) but I don't think that's the
only
>>>>
>>> rebuke
>>>
>>>> to creationism. Since most of the species of plant and animal
life on
>>>>
>>> this
>>>
>>>> earth are in fact extinct, I'd call that "unintelligent design."
>>>>
>>>> You said there are only two possibilities as to how life
started. Are
>>>>
>>> you
>>>
>>>> sure? How do you know this? What I know is that all religions
serve in
>>>> answering three questions: Where did we come from, how do we
live and
>>>>
>>> what
>>>
>>>> happens when we die? Myself, I've answered those questions to my
own
>>>> satisfaction and I don't need the church to tell me anything.
>>>>
>>>> Slim
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Todd Tavares
>>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Slim, Wow! are you are going to vote for Obama because he is a
Marxist
>>>>> or not vote for McCain just because Palin is a religious
extremist? :^D
>>>>> Glad you mentioned carbon dating. Carbon has been proven by
many
>>>>> scientists to be a wholly inaccurate method of dating. I am far
from
>>>>> being a scientist...or a religious kook thinking the earth is
only a
>>>>> couple of thousand of years old, but there is just as much
scientific
>>>>> information out there to; while not proving creation is the
truth,
>>>>>
>>> surely
>>>
>>>>> proves evolution is improbable if not impossible. You are/were
an
>>>>> educator and were taught evolution from a text book, like we
all were.
>>>>> Just because you read something in a text book does not make it
truth.
>>>>> http://www.darwins-theory-of-evolution.com/ Maybe we could all
stomach
>>>>> creationism if we called it a theory too. After all that is
what
>>>>> evolution is...just an unproven theory. There are equally as
many
>>>>> scientists out there who believe they have proven evolution is
myth. It
>>>>> was not Darwin's brainstorm anyway. He thought he could further
explain
>>>>> a centuries old belief; that life arose from non life and
everything
>>>>> sprang from a common ancestor. Modern scientists say it was
that first
>>>>> amino acid or protein chain in the pool of "primordial ooze." I
like
>>>>>
>>> how
>>>
>>>>> one Nobel prize winner (Biology 1967?) put it:
>>>>>
>>>>> "There are only two possibilities as to how life arose; one is
>>>>> spontaneous generation arising to evolution, the other is a
supernatural
>>>>> creative act of God, there is no third possibility. Spontaneous
>>>>> generation that life arose from non-living matter was
scientifically
>>>>> disproved 120 years ago by Louis Pasteur and others. That
leaves us with
>>>>> only one possible conclusion, that life arose as a creative act
of God.
>>>>>
>>> I
>>>
>>>>> will not accept that philosophically because I do not want to
believe in
>>>>> God, therefore I choose to believe in that which I know is
>>>>>
>>> scientifically
>>>
>>>>> impossible, spontaneous generation arising to evolution."
>>>>>
>>>>> (Dr. George Wald, evolutionist, Professor Emeritus of Biology
at the
>>>>> University at Harvard, Nobel Prize winner in Biology.)
>>>>>
>>>>> But the most interesting fact is that even Darwin himself
realized
>>>>> evolution was not workable.
>>>>>
>>>>> "To suppose that the eye, with all its inimitable contrivances
for
>>>>> adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting
different
>>>>> amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and
chromatic
>>>>> aberration, could have formed by natural selection, seems, I
freely
>>>>> confess, absurd in the highest degree possible." (Charles
Darwin, "The
>>>>> origin of species by means of natural selection")
>>>>>
>>>>> "If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed
which could
>>>>> not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight
>>>>> modifications, my theory would absolutely break down." (Charles
Darwin,
>>>>> "The Origin of Species")
>>>>>
>>>>> "Often a cold shudder has run through me, and I have asked
myself
>>>>>
>>> whether
>>>
>>>>> I may have not devoted myself to a fantasy." (Charles Darwin,
Life and
>>>>> Letters, 1887, Vol. 2, p. 229)
>>>>>
>>>>> I could post a few hundred quotes from noted doctors and
scientists to
>>>>> try to "prove" evolution wrong or creation right. I could "do
my
>>>>> homework" as we say here on the list and cite actual findings,
but that
>>>>> is not necessary. Because to dismiss the possibility of God or
some
>>>>>
>>> other
>>>
>>>>> Intelligent Designer makes it easier to accept our notions that
it is ok
>>>>> to be a homosexual (and not allow me a choice when the schools
teach
>>>>>
>>> this
>>>
>>>>> gargage to my kids while denying the right to learn about the
theory of
>>>>> creation along with evolution) or that it should be a crime to
kill a
>>>>> tree, but ok to kill an unborn baby. Not to say everyone
believing in
>>>>> evolution is an athiest (or a Democrat), but you have made me
see this
>>>>>
>>> as
>>>
>>>>> a hinge factor in how I will vote....real issues aside.
>>>>>
>>>>> Todd T
>>>>>
>>>>> Besides, it is not very PC to say we evolved (were "selected")
from
>>>>>
>>> apes.
>>>
>>>>> We don't want any of the apes that were not selected to be made
to feel
>>>>> inferior.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Steven Alm"
>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Praise Jesus, the Republicans are
going to
>>>>> save us from the Republicans
>>>>> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:11:17 -0500
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Ahh, so the "tolerant" lefty has a litmus test for religious
beliefs."
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I require that the candidates be sane, critical thinkers.
Palin is
>>>>> obviously not. I wouldn't say that if she were a Catholic or a
Lutheran
>>>>> but
>>>>> here's a woman who wants to stare down the whole scientific
community
>>>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>>>> deny things like carbon 14 dating and declare that the heavens
and earth
>>>>> are
>>>>> only a few thousand years old. You didn't just call ME an
extremist, did
>>>>> you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Brad, you left out the part of Kroon saying that his
parishioners should
>>>>> pray for the completion of the pipeline because at the end of
the world,
>>>>> folks will flock to Alaska as their final refuge.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't believe that was you quoting all that God stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>> Slim
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Steven Alm wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> "She's already demonstrated that she is fully capable of
separating her
>>>>>> personal beliefs from her duties."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wouldn't it be better if she didn't have to?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 6:18 AM, Herb Parsons wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ahh, so the "tolerant" lefty has a litmus test for religious
beliefs.
>>>>>>> She's already demonstrated that she is fully capable of
separating her
>>>>>>> personal beliefs from her duties. She vetoed a bill that
would have
>>>>>>> denied benefits to gay couples.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But, you extremists keep it up, I'm sure you'll find (or make
up)
>>>>>>> SOMETHING on her.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Steven Alm wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> She's a creationist. Her Assembly of God stuff is a deal
breaker for
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Religious extremism cannot be tolerated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The most important legacy the president leaves is the
appointment of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> supreme court.
>>>>>>>> The next pres might appoint as many as three. If
Sarabaracuda has
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> her
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> way,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> say goodbye to Roe V. Wade and hello to back-ally coat
hanger
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> abortions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Slim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Herb Parsons
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think it's funny that the candidate that was considered
as a
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> running
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> mate for the Democratic choice a few years back, is now
being
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> touted as
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "more of the same". Keep trying though, you guys may find
something
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> works.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What exactly makes Palin a "religious kook", that fact
that's she
>>>>>>>>> religious? I think your colors are beginning to show.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> petelargo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ben, thanks for your post. As you may have noticed, there
is no
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> dialogue
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the right-wing extremists. You are wrong, end of
discussion and
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> your
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> idiot to boot.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When John McCain won the nomination, Bush disappears
overseas. At
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> RNC,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> no Bush, no Cheney (and no mention of them). They know
it's a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> failed
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> administration. Where were the solutions. Once again, they
are
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> trying
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> frame the campaign as an ideology argument rather than an
issues
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> discussion.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Today on Face the Nation, "Sis Cum Ba and WHA-LAA", McCain
is now
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> candidate and stated that he will end the incredible
corruption in
>>>>>>>>>> Washington and the failed policies. John McCain has
re-defined a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> whole
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> level of flip-flopping on over two dozen key issues within
the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> last
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> eight
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> years including his own authored bill that he was for and
now
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> against.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't give a poop about the experience argument of
Palin vs
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Obama.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> a waste of time. The entire
Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld-Rice-Rove, etc
>>>>>>>>>> administration could be argued to be the most experienced
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> administration
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the history of the White House. A huge amount of prior
"executive
>>>>>>>>>> experience". For the first time in recent politics the
Republicans
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> power in the white house, judicial, house and senate. How
was it
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> for
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's one thing to drive a tractor trailer up our butts,
but when
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> they
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> blowing on the horn while there're doing it, it's really
gone too
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> far.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A big thank you for the memories: the debt, the dead, the
twisting
>>>>>>>>>> intelligence to "sell" us a war on a country that did not
attack
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> us,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> good ol boy ineffectual cronyism, and finally the
shredding of the
>>>>>>>>>> constitution. With Palin we now we get to have another
religious
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> kook
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> satisfy the so-called conservative extremist religious
right to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 'bridge'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> them into this administration and get money.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Spending 5-10 billion dollars a month on Iraq and kissing
chinese
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> ass
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (borrowing the money) of the most Marxist suppressive
government
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> on
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> planet at this time is a conservative value?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Finally, the biggest hypocrisy of all . That these
extremists
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> actually
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> that they and the republicans are the vanguards of
conservatism?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> The
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> top key pillars of conservatism are less government and
government
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> intrusion
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and fiscal responsibility. The only administration that
walked
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> that
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> talk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 50 years was a Democrat that left Bush a 500 billion
dollar
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> surplus.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> He
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> blew
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> threw that in one year and it was prior to 9-11. And there
is no
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> greater
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> government intrusion that being told what you can or
cannot do
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> with or
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> into your body. Palin wants privacy for her family
decisions, but
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> she
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wants
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> to legislate publicly what you should do with yours. No
thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ben Cittadino-2 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> My Dear Culture Warriors;
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So....are we having fun yet?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> First, I'd like to thank Richard and Slim for stepping up
to join
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Assault on the Citadel".
>>>>>>>>>>> The bullets don't sting as much when the adversary's fire
is
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> spread
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> among more than one target.
>>>>>>>>>>> In the words first uttered by Gen. "Vinegar Joe"
Stillwell,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "illegitimi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> non carborundum".
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As for Tootle, Brad, and Herb, you guys crack me up. I
posted
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> about
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Obama
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> only because I saw Tootle's post that
>>>>>>>>>>> suggested anybody supporting Obama was either a marxist,
or a
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> farm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> animal.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What did he expect when he said that?
>>>>>>>>>>> Herb, where was your outrage that Tootle would refer to
some of
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> his
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> fellow
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Rhodies" in such derogatry terms? Supporting Obama or
McCain
>>>>>>>>>>> may turn out to be right or wrong, but if we debate
policy and
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> don't
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> engage in mere name-calling this "sailor's bar" could be
an
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> interesting
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> place.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Richard's "geezer" remarks are defensible on several
grounds.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> First,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> was provoked. Second, he was defending ME.
>>>>>>>>>>> Third, it was funny. Calling someone a "marxist" as
Tootle did is
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> several
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> magnitudes worse than gentle kidding of the
>>>>>>>>>>> "old fart" kind. Surely you see the difference.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The positions I tried to lay out as reasons some people
support
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> Obama
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> intended as an outline of ideology (as Slim noted),
>>>>>>>>>>> not an argument supporting any position. For example,
Herb, you
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> are
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> pro-life and will probably vote for McCain/Palin in part
for that
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> reason.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I am pro-choice, pro-embryonic stem cell research and so
I will
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Obama/Biden in part for that reason. It is not hyperbole
to point
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the policy differences that explain my choice. What I
know for
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> sure
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> that marxism and "sheepiness" have nothing to do with it.
I have
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> about all of my positions on the issues I mentioned and
am
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> completely
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> prepared to explain and justify them. In Brad's oft'
repeated
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> mantra
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> know I have "done my homework".
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Enough for today. The games will be on soon.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ben C. , s/v Susan Kay, Highlands, NJ
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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