[Rhodes22-list] Praise Jesus, the "evolutionists" are going to save us from the Republicans

[Herb Parsons]

A new born baby is not "viable". If you think it is, watch mama walk 
away, and see how long it will survive.


Lowe, Rob wrote:
> Herb,
> OK, human as opposed to something else, I guess I can buy that.
>
> As you suggest, is this "life" is not so easy.  It's is certainly
> living, but not viable.  For a person in a coma, I totally disagree that
> society must make that decision.  I believe it's the family's decision.
> Society (aka Government) has no business in it.  And in keeping with
> that belief, I believe it's the mother's decision in the case of a
> pregnancy.  It's about personal rights.  If one believes abortion is
> wrong, that's great, don't have one.  But leave me and those that
> believe differently to our own personal beliefs.   
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Herb Parsons
> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 3:12 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Praise Jesus, the "evolutionists" are going
> to save us from the Republicans
>
> So, if it's not human, exactly what is it?
>
> Now, as to whether or not it's life, I can accept that the can be room 
> for argument there; however, there science and religion tend to blur. We
>
> have lots of things we call life, which may or may not be so - is a 
> person in a coma with no ability to respond and no hope for recover 
> "living"? In cases like that, society must make a decision. And, no 
> matter how you want to frame it, it's really not a religious decision. A
>
> person's view may be influenced by religion, but that doesn't make it a 
> religious view.
>
> A good example is that I don't believe it's right for me to take what is
>
> yours. That belief is heavily influenced by my religion, but that 
> doesn't make it a religious belief.
>
> Lowe, Rob wrote:
>   
>> Ah, but that's where the disagreement lies.  You say it's a human at
>> that point, I say it is not.  So you say it's killing.  I say it's
>>     
> not.
>   
>> And whether it's a human or not is a matter of belief, which leads us
>> back to religion.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Herb Parsons
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 2:42 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Praise Jesus, the "evolutionists" are
>>     
> going
>   
>> to save us from the Republicans
>>
>> Pete, sorry buddy, but as long as someone is killing another human,
>>     
> it's
>   
>> EVERYONE's business.
>>
>>
>> petelargo wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> It sure sounds like a 'I want the government out of our lives except
>>>     
>>>       
>> for my
>>   
>>     
>>> religious beliefs' conservative. 
>>> If it's your belief that a woman is killing another human being, then
>>>     
>>>       
>> in the
>>   
>>     
>>> privacy of your family exercise your belief and don't do it, and
>>>       
> leave
>   
>>>     
>>>       
>> the
>>   
>>     
>>> government and the rest of us out of it.
>>>
>>>
>>> hparsons wrote:
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> I would agree, except in this case, the individual's religious
>>>>         
> belifs
>   
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>   
>>     
>>>> involve yet another individual. You are advocating that a woman be 
>>>> allowed to kill another living human based on HER religious beliefs,
>>>>       
>>>>         
>> not 
>>   
>>     
>>>> those of that living human.
>>>>
>>>> Rik Sandberg wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>> Herb,
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, here you go my friend. War is a terrible analogy.
>>>>>
>>>>> IF we are going to have freedom OF religion, which would also
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>> include 
>>   
>>     
>>>>> freedom FROM religion and the abortion issue is mostly decided on a
>>>>>           
>
>   
>>>>> religious (or non-religious, choice again) basis, it is not our
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>> place to 
>>   
>>     
>>>>> expect anyone else to assume our religious beliefs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which leads us right back to; the gov't should have no voice in
>>>>>           
> this
>   
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>> at
>>   
>>     
>>>>> all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rik
>>>>>
>>>>> Ayn Rand was a prophet - - it isn't my fault
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Herb Parsons wrote:
>>>>>   
>>>>>       
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>>>> I like your honest assessment on Palin, but I disagree about your 
>>>>>> labeling of the position.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I say I'm not going to fight in a war, but it's OK if my
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>> government 
>>   
>>     
>>>>>> attacks another, am I anti-war, or pro-war?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Obviously, you'll not have an abortion, that would mean a male
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>> could be 
>>   
>>     
>>>>>> neither pro or anti; however, anyone that believes the issue does
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>> not 
>>   
>>     
>>>>>> affect me is wearing blinders.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rik Sandberg wrote:
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Herb,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Agreed. Palin claims no more religiousity (is that a word, sounds
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>> good) 
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>> than either of the other three candidates involved. She has also
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>> shown 
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>> that she can govern without forcing forcing those beliefs on her 
>>>>>>> constituents.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On the abortion issue: Yep, she's against them, for her. So am I,
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>> for 
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>> me. I am pro-choice. People just can't seem to get a handle on
>>>>>>>               
> the
>   
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>> idea 
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>> that pro-choice doesn't mean anti or pro abortion. It means you
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>> should 
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>> be able to make your own choice and let others make theirs, ie,
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>> mind 
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>> your own business.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  From what I've seen Palin, as governor of Alaska has been doing
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>> this
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I had my way, the federal gov't wouldn't be involved in
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>> abortion at
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>> all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rik
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ayn Rand was a prophet - - it isn't my fault
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Herb Parsons wrote:
>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> Stan,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What evidence do you have that would lead you to believe that
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>> Palin 
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>> would force her religious belief on anyone? My understanding is
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>> that 
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>> she's all for allowing the individual states to set the
>>>>>>>>                 
> standard.
>   
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>> However, that's really beside the point. As you said, anyone's
>>>>>>>> pinpoint 
>>>>>>>> of the exact time is a "religious" matter, or a matter of fath,
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>> thus 
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>> ANYONE setting pinpointed time would be them foisting their
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>> beliefs on 
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>> others.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Surely you're not advocating allowing the parents to decide at
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>> any
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>> time 
>>>>>>>> they choose, up to and including while the "fetus" is still in
>>>>>>>> college?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> stan wrote:
>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> Slim,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As a member of your religious faith, and an ardent fan, if you
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>> really
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>> plan 
>>>>>>>>> to skip voting (in effect voting for those whose direct
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>> religious 
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>> instructions got us into such a waste of our wealth and blood)
>>>>>>>>>                   
> I
>   
>>>>>>>>> would be 
>>>>>>>>> truly saddened.   I don't think poorly of John's and Palin's
>>>>>>>>> inability to 
>>>>>>>>> live up to their own family values, relying on their gods to
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>> forgive
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>> them - 
>>>>>>>>> I worry about their health; a topic that seems to be forbidden
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>> to
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>> address. 
>>>>>>>>> John's cheek is not like that from his prisoner days and his vp
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>> could
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>> be our 
>>>>>>>>> leader without notice.  Then where would this country's
>>>>>>>>>                   
> founding
>   
>>>>>>>>> desire for 
>>>>>>>>> religious freedom end up?  The first example is already on the
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>> table
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>>>> Catholic Joe has it right:  When life starts is a religious
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>> opinion
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>>>> should not be one decided by government.   You may feel life
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>> does not
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>> start 
>>>>>>>>> until a breath is taken, the Jews count a number of months
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>> before the
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>> start, 
>>>>>>>>> the Christens count from the moment the cells begin dividing. 
>>>>>>>>> Personally I 
>>>>>>>>> don't think it starts until after college.  If we allow a Palin
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>> to
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>> call such 
>>>>>>>>> shots we are on a path Jefferson and all those other smart guys
>>>>>>>>> insisted on 
>>>>>>>>> avoiding.   McCain told the TV interviewer that if he had his
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>> way the
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>> first 
>>>>>>>>> judge he would get rid of is Ginsberg and than went down the
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>> list of
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>> her 
>>>>>>>>> kind.   Once this is allowed to start (we already have allowed
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>> god
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>> onto our 
>>>>>>>>> coins), god (hypocritically speaking) help us - or we will all,
>>>>>>>>> eventually, 
>>>>>>>>> become strong advocates of the second amendment.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> John, at least is a flip flopper so, if elected, would probably
>>>>>>>>> revert to 
>>>>>>>>> many of his reasonable positions.  It is Palin I am fearful
>>>>>>>>>                   
> will
>   
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>> give
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>> us 
>>>>>>>>> even worse than another 8 years.  (And this from a confessed
>>>>>>>>> womanizer.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> stan/ec
>>>>>>>>>  .
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>> From: "Steven Alm" <stevenalm at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 2:02 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Praise Jesus,the "evolutionists"
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>> are
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>> going to 
>>>>>>>>> save us from the Republicans
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>> Todd,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm an atheist and I think Palin's a religious kook.  And
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>> you're
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>> right, I
>>>>>>>>>> won't vote for a religious kook.  I haven't studied Darwin
>>>>>>>>>>                     
> very
>   
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>> much
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>> (and 
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> applaud your research and quotes) but I don't think that's the
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>> only
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>> rebuke
>>>>>>>>>> to creationism.  Since most of the species of plant and animal
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>> life
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>> on 
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>> earth are in fact extinct, I'd call that "unintelligent
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>> design."
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>> You said there are only two possibilities as to how life
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>> started. 
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>> Are you
>>>>>>>>>> sure?  How do you know this?  What I know is that all
>>>>>>>>>>                     
> religions
>   
>>>>>>>>>> serve in
>>>>>>>>>> answering three questions:  Where did we come from, how do we
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>> live
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>> happens when we die?  Myself, I've answered those questions to
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>> my
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>> own
>>>>>>>>>> satisfaction and I don't need the church to tell me anything.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Slim
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Todd Tavares
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>> <sprocket80 at mail.com>
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>> Slim, Wow!  are you are going to vote for Obama because he is
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> a
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> Marxist
>>>>>>>>>>> or not vote for McCain just because Palin is a religious
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> extremist?
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> :^D
>>>>>>>>>>> Glad you mentioned carbon dating.  Carbon has been proven by
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> many
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> scientists to be a wholly inaccurate method of dating.  I am
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> far
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>> being a scientist...or a religious kook thinking the earth is
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> only
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> couple of thousand of years old, but there is just as much
>>>>>>>>>>> scientific
>>>>>>>>>>> information out there to; while not proving creation is the
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> truth,
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> surely
>>>>>>>>>>> proves evolution is improbable if not impossible.  You
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> are/were an
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> educator and were taught evolution from a text book, like we
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> all
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> were.
>>>>>>>>>>> Just because you read something in a text book does not make
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> it
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> truth.
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.darwins-theory-of-evolution.com/ Maybe we could
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
> all
>   
>>>>>>>>>>> stomach
>>>>>>>>>>> creationism if we called it a theory too. After all that is
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> what
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> evolution is...just an unproven theory. There are equally as
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> many
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> scientists out there who believe they have proven evolution
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
> is
>   
>>>>>>>>>>> myth. It
>>>>>>>>>>> was not Darwin's brainstorm anyway.  He thought he could
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> further
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> explain
>>>>>>>>>>> a centuries old belief; that life arose from non life and
>>>>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>>>> sprang from a common ancestor. Modern scientists say it was
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> that
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>>>>>> amino acid or protein chain in the pool of "primordial ooze."
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> I
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> like how
>>>>>>>>>>> one Nobel prize winner (Biology 1967?) put it:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "There are only two possibilities as to how life arose; one
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
> is
>   
>>>>>>>>>>> spontaneous generation arising to evolution, the other is a
>>>>>>>>>>> supernatural
>>>>>>>>>>> creative act of God, there is no third possibility.
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> Spontaneous
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> generation that life arose from non-living matter was
>>>>>>>>>>> scientifically
>>>>>>>>>>> disproved 120 years ago by Louis Pasteur and others. That
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> leaves us
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> only one possible conclusion, that life arose as a creative
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> act of
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> God. I
>>>>>>>>>>> will not accept that philosophically because I do not want to
>>>>>>>>>>> believe in
>>>>>>>>>>> God, therefore I choose to believe in that which I know is
>>>>>>>>>>> scientifically
>>>>>>>>>>> impossible, spontaneous generation arising to evolution."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (Dr. George Wald, evolutionist, Professor Emeritus of Biology
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> at
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> University at Harvard, Nobel Prize winner in Biology.)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But the most interesting fact is that even Darwin himself
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> realized
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> evolution was not workable.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "To suppose that the eye, with all its inimitable
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
> contrivances
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> for
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> different
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> chromatic
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> aberration, could have formed by natural selection, seems, I
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> freely
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> confess, absurd in the highest degree possible." (Charles
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> Darwin,
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> "The
>>>>>>>>>>> origin of species by means of natural selection")
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> which
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>> not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight
>>>>>>>>>>> modifications, my theory would absolutely break down."
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> (Charles
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> Darwin,
>>>>>>>>>>> "The Origin of Species")
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Often a cold shudder has run through me, and I have asked
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> myself
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> whether
>>>>>>>>>>> I may have not devoted myself to a fantasy."  (Charles
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
> Darwin,
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> Life
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> Letters, 1887, Vol. 2, p. 229)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I could post a few hundred quotes from noted doctors and
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> scientists
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> try to "prove" evolution wrong or creation right. I could "do
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> my
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> homework" as we say here on the list and cite actual
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
> findings,
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> but
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> is not necessary. Because to dismiss the possibility of God
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
> or
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> some
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>> Intelligent Designer makes it easier to accept our notions
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> that it
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> is ok
>>>>>>>>>>> to be a homosexual (and not allow me a choice when the
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
> schools
>   
>>>>>>>>>>> teach this
>>>>>>>>>>> gargage to my kids while denying the right to learn about the
>>>>>>>>>>> theory of
>>>>>>>>>>> creation along with evolution) or that it should be a crime
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
> to
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> kill
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> tree, but ok to kill an unborn baby. Not to say everyone
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> believing
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> evolution is an athiest (or a Democrat), but you have made me
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> see
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> this as
>>>>>>>>>>> a hinge factor in how I will vote....real issues aside.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Todd T
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Besides, it is not very PC to say we evolved (were
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
> "selected")
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> from
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> apes.
>>>>>>>>>>> We don't want any of the apes that were not selected to be
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> made to
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> feel
>>>>>>>>>>> inferior.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Steven Alm"
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Praise Jesus, the Republicans
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
> are
>   
>>>>>>>>>>> going to
>>>>>>>>>>> save us from the Republicans
>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:11:17 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Ahh, so the "tolerant" lefty has a litmus test for religious
>>>>>>>>>>> beliefs."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I require that the candidates be sane, critical
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
> thinkers.
>   
>>>>>>>>>>> Palin is
>>>>>>>>>>> obviously not. I wouldn't say that if she were a Catholic or
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
> a
>   
>>>>>>>>>>> Lutheran
>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>> here's a woman who wants to stare down the whole scientific
>>>>>>>>>>> community and
>>>>>>>>>>> deny things like carbon 14 dating and declare that the
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
> heavens
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> and
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> earth
>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>> only a few thousand years old. You didn't just call ME an
>>>>>>>>>>> extremist, did
>>>>>>>>>>> you?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Brad, you left out the part of Kroon saying that his
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> parishioners
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>> pray for the completion of the pipeline because at the end of
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> the
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> world,
>>>>>>>>>>> folks will flock to Alaska as their final refuge.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I can't believe that was you quoting all that God stuff.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Slim
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Steven Alm wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>> "She's already demonstrated that she is fully capable of
>>>>>>>>>>>> separating her
>>>>>>>>>>>> personal beliefs from her duties."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wouldn't it be better if she didn't have to?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 6:18 AM, Herb Parsons wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ahh, so the "tolerant" lefty has a litmus test for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
> religious
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>>> beliefs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> She's already demonstrated that she is fully capable of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> separating her
>>>>>>>>>>>>> personal beliefs from her duties. She vetoed a bill that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>> would
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> denied benefits to gay couples.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But, you extremists keep it up, I'm sure you'll find (or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>> make up)
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>> SOMETHING on her.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steven Alm wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> She's a creationist. Her Assembly of God stuff is a deal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>> breaker
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Religious extremism cannot be tolerated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The most important legacy the president leaves is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appointment of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supreme court.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The next pres might appoint as many as three. If
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>> Sarabaracuda
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>> her
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>> way,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> say goodbye to Roe V. Wade and hello to back-ally coat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>> hanger
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>> abortions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Slim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Herb Parsons
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it's funny that the candidate that was considered
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>> as a
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>> running
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mate for the Democratic choice a few years back, is now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>> being
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>> touted as
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "more of the same". Keep trying though, you guys may find
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What exactly makes Palin a "religious kook", that fact
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>> that's
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> religious? I think your colors are beginning to show.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> petelargo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ben, thanks for your post. As you may have noticed,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
> there
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>> is
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dialogue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the right-wing extremists. You are wrong, end of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>> discussion
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idiot to boot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When John McCain won the nomination, Bush disappears
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>> overseas.
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RNC,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no Bush, no Cheney (and no mention of them). They know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>> it's a
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>> failed
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> administration. Where were the solutions. Once again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>> they are
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>> trying
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frame the campaign as an ideology argument rather than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
> an
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Today on Face the Nation, "Sis Cum Ba and WHA-LAA",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>> McCain is
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> candidate and stated that he will end the incredible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corruption in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Washington and the failed policies. John McCain has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>> re-defined
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>> whole
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level of flip-flopping on over two dozen key issues
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>> within the
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>> last
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>> eight
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years including his own authored bill that he was for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
> and
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>> now
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>> against.
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't give a poop about the experience argument of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>> Palin
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obama.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a waste of time. The entire
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>> Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld-Rice-Rove,
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> administration could be argued to be the most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
> experienced
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> administration
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the history of the White House. A huge amount of prior
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "executive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience". For the first time in recent politics the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Republicans
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> power in the white house, judicial, house and senate.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
> How
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>> was
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's one thing to drive a tractor trailer up our butts,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>> but
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blowing on the horn while there're doing it, it's really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>> gone
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>> far.
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A big thank you for the memories: the debt, the dead,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
> the
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twisting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intelligence to "sell" us a war on a country that did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
> not
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>> us,
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good ol boy ineffectual cronyism, and finally the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>> shredding of
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constitution. With Palin we now we get to have another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> religious
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>> kook
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> satisfy the so-called conservative extremist religious
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>> right
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'bridge'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them into this administration and get money.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spending 5-10 billion dollars a month on Iraq and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
> kissing
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chinese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>> ass
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (borrowing the money) of the most Marxist suppressive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> planet at this time is a conservative value?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finally, the biggest hypocrisy of all . That these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>> extremists
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they and the republicans are the vanguards of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conservatism?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top key pillars of conservatism are less government and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intrusion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and fiscal responsibility. The only administration that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>> walked
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>> talk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 50 years was a Democrat that left Bush a 500 billion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>> dollar
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>> surplus.
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>> He
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blew
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threw that in one year and it was prior to 9-11. And
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>> there is
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> greater
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government intrusion that being told what you can or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>> cannot do
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>> with or
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into your body. Palin wants privacy for her family
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>> decisions,
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>> she
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wants
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to legislate publicly what you should do with yours. No
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ben Cittadino-2 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Dear Culture Warriors;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So....are we having fun yet?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First, I'd like to thank Richard and Slim for stepping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>> up to
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> join
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Assault on the Citadel".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The bullets don't sting as much when the adversary's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>> fire is
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>> spread
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> among more than one target.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the words first uttered by Gen. "Vinegar Joe"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>> Stillwell,
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "illegitimi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non carborundum".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for Tootle, Brad, and Herb, you guys crack me up. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>> posted
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obama
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only because I saw Tootle's post that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggested anybody supporting Obama was either a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
> marxist,
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>> or a
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>> farm
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> animal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What did he expect when he said that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Herb, where was your outrage that Tootle would refer to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>> some
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fellow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Rhodies" in such derogatry terms? Supporting Obama or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>> McCain
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> may turn out to be right or wrong, but if we debate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>> policy
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engage in mere name-calling this "sailor's bar" could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
> be
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>> an
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>> interesting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> place.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard's "geezer" remarks are defensible on several
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>> grounds.
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>> First,
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was provoked. Second, he was defending ME.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Third, it was funny. Calling someone a "marxist" as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>> Tootle
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> several
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> magnitudes worse than gentle kidding of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "old fart" kind. Surely you see the difference.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The positions I tried to lay out as reasons some people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>> Obama
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intended as an outline of ideology (as Slim noted),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not an argument supporting any position. For example,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>> Herb,
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pro-life and will probably vote for McCain/Palin in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
> part
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>> for
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reason.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am pro-choice, pro-embryonic stem cell research and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
> so
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>> I
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obama/Biden in part for that reason. It is not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
> hyperbole
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>> to
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the policy differences that explain my choice. What I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>> know
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that marxism and "sheepiness" have nothing to do with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>> it. I
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about all of my positions on the issues I mentioned and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>> am
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>> completely
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prepared to explain and justify them. In Brad's oft'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>> repeated
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>> mantra
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know I have "done my homework".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Enough for today. The games will be on soon.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ben C. , s/v Susan Kay, Highlands, NJ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> __________________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
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