[Rhodes22-list] Brad, now my turn:
Herb Parsons
hparsons at parsonsys.com
Thu Sep 11 15:33:50 EDT 2008
So, now that we've narrowed the focus from "intent" to what she actually
said, what DID she actually say that was false? This is from her RNC
speech. I haven't followed all of the others:
"I suspended the state fuel tax, and championed reform to end the abuses
of earmark spending by Congress. I told the Congress 'thanks, but no
thanks,' for that Bridge to Nowhere. If our state wanted a bridge, we'd
build it ourselves. When oil and gas prices went up dramatically, and
filled up the state treasury, I sent a large share of that revenue back
where it belonged - directly to the people of Alaska."
stan wrote:
> sorry Herb,
>
> you are not going to win this one. forget the word intent if that is a
> distraction. stay with the facts of what she said (too many times in too
> many places to keep score) and what she did not say. I am not even hinting
> you should not like her for this type of politicking but at least admit it
> when she done us dumb listeners wrong.
>
> ss
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 2:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Brad, now my turn:
>
>
>
>> I don't know her intent. But, I'm willing to take it that she decided
>> that building the "Bridge to Nowhere" wasn't a good idea, and that she
>> put a stop to it. Isn't that what she said?
>>
>>
>> stan wrote:
>>
>>> OK Herb, you know me, I am open minded. Let's not get sidetracked on
>>> this
>>> single issue that has overpowered my lust. What was her intent?
>>>
>>> ss
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 1:26 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Brad, now my turn:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I think it's funny to watch someone debate her intent, when that same
>>>> someone firmly backs the man infamous for his "it depends on what the
>>>> meaning of the word 'is' is" comment.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> stan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Brad,
>>>>>
>>>>> As you have said over the years, we don't disagree on everything but
>>>>> come
>>>>> on, you have to admit that if you took 1,000 folks who heard her Bridge
>>>>> to
>>>>> Nowhere speech over and over and over again and asked them: did she let
>>>>> them
>>>>> go away thinking she did Not take these ear mark dollars, 100% of those
>>>>> questioned would say she stood right up there and let us know she saved
>>>>> that
>>>>> money from coming out of our pockets.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please, anyone coming to her defense, spare me that although she took
>>>>> the
>>>>> money she spent it more wisely or that she had no choice but to take
>>>>> the
>>>>> money. Don't befuddle the issue of her honesty. She wanted you to
>>>>> believe
>>>>> what she wanted you to believe and she knew it and she made no
>>>>> qualifying
>>>>> remarks and kept repeating her fiction at every chance she could
>>>>> without
>>>>> even showing the wisdom of second thinking of what she was saying. In
>>>>> my
>>>>> world, intent is the bottom line.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ben, Slim, and all you on the fencers, help on this disingenuous (that
>>>>> means
>>>>> lying in my Bklyn district) speech review.
>>>>>
>>>>> ss
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 11:15 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Brad, now my turn:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Stan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tax revenues have risen, to say they haven't is the "big lie". The
>>>>>> lack of revenue isn't the problem, the growth of entitlement programs
>>>>>> is the elephant in the room (feel free to make jokes about elephants
>>>>>> here ________ ). Even with the cost of the Iraq war and the endless
>>>>>> earmarks, "It's the Entitlements Stupid", to paraphrase Bubba circa
>>>>>> 1992. Anyone who thinks a partial privatization of SS is a bad idea
>>>>>> need only look around the country at the number of cities and
>>>>>> municipalities that have retirement funds going bankrupt. Sometimes
>>>>>> reality really sucks but it is what it is. Even the Democratic party
>>>>>> in Alaska was touting Palin's killing the "Bridge to Nowhere" on their
>>>>>> website until last week when they got the marching orders to send that
>>>>>> webpage "down memory hole". Find a new talking point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now as to stem cell research, I'm 'fer' it, and as to litmus tests,
>>>>>> I'm 'agin' it! As to the Global Warming religion, I'm an agnostic in
>>>>>> most things associated with religion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We're down to the last 55 days of this beauty pageant we call an
>>>>>> election and O'Bambi isn't doing a good job of handling the fact that
>>>>>> he just lost the swimsuit competition. He's never won an election
>>>>>> against competition and so he's reverting back to his 'raisins',
>>>>>> Chicago style politics. Expect more elbows in the days to come.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brad
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 9:59 AM, stan <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> if you think they are cute and perky, wait 'til you've seen John's.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but if you want 8 more of the same tax theory, stem cell thinking,
>>>>>>> supreme
>>>>>>> court litmus, global warming be damned, environmental leanings,
>>>>>>> privatizing
>>>>>>> of ss, and the dumbing down of America so everyone believes her lying
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> not taking all the "Bridge to Nowhere" dollars from their pockets,
>>>>>>> she's
>>>>>>> your man - even if she has breasts. Gad, at this age, even I have
>>>>>>> those.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ss
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
>>>>>>> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 9:17 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Brad, now my turn:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stan,
>>>>>>>> In case your eyeglasses are a little foggy this morning, she has
>>>>>>>> cute
>>>>>>>> perky
>>>>>>>> breasts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rummy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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