[Rhodes22-list] Lou, on the thinning of herds...

Steven Alm stevenalm at gmail.com
Thu Sep 11 17:26:18 EDT 2008 

Lou,

As a life-long hunter and fisherman (though not in recent years) I've seen
no evidence that the DNR's decisions of heard-culling is ever based on
partisan politics.  And certainly Palin has little or no voice in those
decisions.  And I highly doubt she herself has done any aerial hunting.  The
guys that do that are skilled, dead-eye marksmen and do their very best and
mostly succeed in getting "good kills" so the poor beast doesn't suffer.

The over population of anything is usually trouble.  Especially wolves.
Duh.  I don't know about moose.  But the DNR guys are out there all the time
counting herds and making decisions about bag limits and if they say the
herd's getting too big, I believe them.  Their work in conservation is
tireless.  That said, there's still a significant amount of poaching from
the air or snowmobiles or ATVs and the rangers and game wardens have to try
to stop that too.  It's a big job.

My own cousin, Richard Knapp of Jamestown. ND is the head game warden for
the state of ND.  Funny though, as a kid he broke every hunting and fishing
law there is.  At least he knows all the tricks.

As for myself hiking into the woods and dragging a moose out--no thanks.

Slim

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>wrote:

> Ed, you heretic you!!
>
> Tootle wrote:
> > Lou said, "Forget the bridge.  Gov Palin supports AERIAL HUNTING of
> animals
> > to thin their herds.  Wolves, Moose what's next Polar Bears...oops there
> > already facing extinction due to hearsay about the polar ice caps
> melting.
> >
> > Lou, research how many polar bears there were in 1900, 1950 and 2000.
>  Oops,
> > the number has gone up big time.
> >
> > Aerial Hunting, cite research that says the hoards are smaller today?  If
> > the herds are larger, maybe there is a need to keep them controlled to
> > prevent damage to your environment?  Are you volunteering to go to Alaska
> to
> > hunt by conventional means?  Hike in for two weeks, and then drag out the
> > moose on sled?  I do not know the facts to make a judgment.  I will leave
> > that to local game wardens.
> >
> > This I do know. Since in I have lived in South Carolina the deer limit
> has
> > gone from two to five and they do not count deer killed on thinning
> hunts.
> > Could the same problem be happening elsewhere?  I could give more
> examples
> > here, but you need to get accurate facts rather than hysteria.  Clam down
> > brother, have a cold beer.
> >
> > As to global warming, the earth has gone thru warming and cooling cycles
> for
> > millennia; I doubt that man is powerful enough to change those cycles,
> > notwithstanding the comments of Al Gore.
> >
> > As I said, "Facts are stubborn things.  Facts are used to sort out the
> truth
> > from fiction, to rise above bias and prejudice to reach a just result."
> > Jeffery O. Bramlett
> >
> > Ed K
> > Greenville, SC, USA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Miracleboat wrote:
> >
> >> Ed
> >>
> >> Forget the bridge.  Gov Pallin supports  AERIAL HUNTING of animals to
> >> thin their herds.  Wolves, Moose
> >> whats next  Polar Bears...oops there already facing extinction due to
> >> hearsay about the polar ice caps melting.
> >>
> >> Take a look at the satellite photos of the polar caps from JUST 10yrs
> >> ago to NOW same time of the year,  But she thinks its made up.
> >> We need  REAL LEADERS who can lead with OPEN minds!!!
> >>
> >> on a personal note:
> >>
> >> I don't have many black friends, and my neighbors are from Ghana and
> >> we don't get along.
> >> yet I am not afraid to support a black man whose spirit and
> >> intelligence are FAR superior to any candidate from any party
> >> I ve seen in over 30 years.
> >>
> >> Lou R
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sep 11, 2008, at 2:42 PM, Tootle wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Stan:
> >>>
> >>> During her campaign for governor she agreed with the bridge to
> >>> nowhere.
> >>> After she got in office the revised price tag to the State of
> >>> Alaska was 2.5
> >>> times the orginal estimate.  She publically said that the changed
> >>> price was
> >>> too much and while she still said that the people on the island needed
> >>> something, she could no longer endorse spending that much of the
> >>> state's
> >>> money.  A new ferry would have to do.
> >>>
> >>> Read that the price tag for the project increased beyond the
> >>> original price
> >>> and that demanded a recalulation of prior endorsement.  At the new
> >>> price she
> >>> could no longer endorse it.
> >>>
> >>> Assume you gave someone a quote two weeks ago on new Rhodes 22 for
> >>> $40,000
> >>> and an you just sent them a change in the quote to $100,000.  What
> >>> do you
> >>> expect that their response would be?
> >>>
> >>> What the liberal media has left out of the discussions is the
> >>> project's
> >>> change in price.
> >>>
> >>> Her 'intent' at the new price was to stop the project before it
> >>> started.
> >>>
> >>> You guys need to get more facts before having a discussion on half
> >>> truths.
> >>>
> >>> Ed K
> >>> Greenville, SC, USA
> >>> Addendum:  "Facts are stubborn things.  Facts are used to sort out
> >>> the truth
> >>> from fiction, to rise above bias and prejudice to reach a just
> >>> result.""Take
> >>> inspiration from those people who risked all they had for the
> >>> nation we are
> >>> blessed to call home today."  Jeffery O. Bramlett
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> stanleyl wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> OK Herb,   you know me, I am open minded.  Let's not get
> >>>> sidetracked on
> >>>> this
> >>>> single issue that has overpowered my lust.  What was her intent?
> >>>>
> >>>> ss
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> >>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 1:26 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Brad, now my turn:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> I think it's funny to watch someone debate her intent, when that
> >>>>> same
> >>>>> someone firmly backs the man infamous for his "it depends on what
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> meaning of the word 'is' is" comment.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> stan wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Brad,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> As you have said over the years, we don't disagree on everything
> >>>>>> but
> >>>>>> come
> >>>>>> on, you have to admit that if you took 1,000 folks who heard her
> >>>>>> Bridge
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>> Nowhere speech over and over and over again and asked them: did
> >>>>>> she let
> >>>>>> them
> >>>>>> go away thinking she did Not take these ear mark dollars, 100%
> >>>>>> of those
> >>>>>> questioned would say she stood right up there and let us know
> >>>>>> she saved
> >>>>>> that
> >>>>>> money from coming out of our pockets.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Please, anyone coming to her defense, spare me that although she
> >>>>>> took
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> money she spent it more wisely or that she had no choice but to
> >>>>>> take the
> >>>>>> money.  Don't befuddle the issue of her honesty.   She wanted
> >>>>>> you to
> >>>>>> believe
> >>>>>> what she wanted you to believe and she knew it and she made no
> >>>>>> qualifying
> >>>>>> remarks and kept repeating her fiction at every chance she could
> >>>>>> without
> >>>>>> even showing the wisdom of second thinking of what she was
> >>>>>> saying.   In
> >>>>>> my
> >>>>>> world, intent is the bottom line.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ben, Slim, and all you on the fencers, help on this disingenuous
> >>>>>> (that
> >>>>>> means
> >>>>>> lying in my Bklyn district) speech review.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ss
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>> From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
> >>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 11:15 AM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Brad, now my turn:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Stan,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Tax revenues have risen, to say they haven't is the "big lie". The
> >>>>>>> lack of revenue isn't the problem, the growth of entitlement
> >>>>>>> programs
> >>>>>>> is the elephant in the room (feel free to make jokes about
> >>>>>>> elephants
> >>>>>>> here ________ ). Even with the cost of the Iraq war and the
> >>>>>>> endless
> >>>>>>> earmarks, "It's the Entitlements Stupid", to paraphrase Bubba
> >>>>>>> circa
> >>>>>>> 1992.  Anyone who thinks a partial privatization of SS is a bad
> >>>>>>> idea
> >>>>>>> need only look around the country at the number of cities and
> >>>>>>> municipalities that have retirement funds going bankrupt.
> >>>>>>> Sometimes
> >>>>>>> reality really sucks but it is what it is. Even the Democratic
> >>>>>>> party
> >>>>>>> in Alaska was touting Palin's killing the "Bridge to Nowhere"
> >>>>>>> on their
> >>>>>>> website until last week when they got the marching orders to
> >>>>>>> send that
> >>>>>>> webpage "down memory hole".  Find a new talking point.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Now as to stem cell research, I'm 'fer' it, and as to litmus
> >>>>>>> tests,
> >>>>>>> I'm 'agin' it! As to the Global Warming religion, I'm an
> >>>>>>> agnostic in
> >>>>>>> most things associated with religion.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We're down to the last 55 days of this beauty pageant we call an
> >>>>>>> election and O'Bambi isn't doing a good job of handling the
> >>>>>>> fact that
> >>>>>>> he just lost the swimsuit competition. He's never won an election
> >>>>>>> against competition and so he's reverting back to his 'raisins',
> >>>>>>> Chicago style politics.  Expect more elbows in the days to come.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Brad
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 9:59 AM, stan <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> if you think they are cute and perky, wait 'til you've seen
> >>>>>>>> John's.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> but if you want 8 more of the same tax theory, stem cell
> >>>>>>>> thinking,
> >>>>>>>> supreme
> >>>>>>>> court litmus, global warming be damned, environmental leanings,
> >>>>>>>> privatizing
> >>>>>>>> of ss, and the dumbing down of America so everyone believes
> >>>>>>>> her lying
> >>>>>>>> about
> >>>>>>>> not taking all the "Bridge to Nowhere" dollars from their
> >>>>>>>> pockets,
> >>>>>>>> she's
> >>>>>>>> your man - even if she has breasts.   Gad, at this age, even I
> >>>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>> those.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ss
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>>> From: <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
> >>>>>>>> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 9:17 AM
> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Brad, now my turn:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Stan,
> >>>>>>>>> In case your eyeglasses are a little foggy this morning, she
> >>>>>>>>> has cute
> >>>>>>>>> perky
> >>>>>>>>> breasts.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Rummy
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
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