[Rhodes22-list] Political -Criminal Activity -
Tootle
ekroposki at charter.net
Thu Sep 18 19:53:52 EDT 2008
Brad said, "The hacker has been found, David Kernell, son of Mike Kernell,
Tennessee Democratic Senator from the University of Memphis.
Well I am also sorry that he is related your Senator.
I would like to thank Ben C for pointing out that Brad suggested a criminal
act upon the hacker. I was equally disappointed that he failed to mention
that if the hacker is prosecuted it would most likely be under federal wire
tapping laws. Now if it is his first offence, he will probably get first
timer probation and a chance to epunge his record.
Since he is a senator's son, he may escape altogether?
Now as to Rob's remarks, he brushed off the criminal activity implying
because hacking was common it should be expected in a political campaign.
Wrong, that was Richard Nixon's logic why he tolerated the activity of the
Watergate burglars. I personally heard him explain that reason. He I am
just one small voice pointing out right and wrong.
As to Jim Johnston's follow up, it is important to know who instigated the
political talk on this forum in the first place. Once he let the cat out of
the bag, it continues, and if you haven't noticed the instigator sometimes
still stirs the pot.
Again, I am disappointed in the brushing off any criminal activity. Here is
a quote about the subject by someone most members of this forum disregard,
but I offer the quote because of relavancy:
"You know, morality is not defined by individual choice. This is the
problem. Morality is what it is, and people have a problem with that. We
all sin. There is not one of us that doesn't. We are all immoral at times,
some of us all the time, some of us very rarely, but some of us are immoral.
The political answer to your question is that there is a huge voting bloc of
Republicans to whom it matters in their leaders, because they believe that
leaders set the example. And these people are sick and tired of seeing
what's happening when no morality exists in the production of television
shows or movies or music or what have you, and they see literal filth that
their kids are subjected to that is being put out there for profit because
there's no morality." Rush Limbaugh
Ed K
Greenville, SC, USA
hparsons wrote:
>
> So what sailing question are you concerned about for which you saw no
> answer?
>
> jimtracyjohnston at centurytel.net wrote:
>> Quoting Ben Cittadino <bcittadino at dcs-law.com>:
>> I am in total agreement with Ben!!! Rhodes22 is a means of communication
>> about
>> sailing with Rhodes as a common focal point. It was always interesting to
>> read
>> about other sailing experiences and often very informative. If you had a
>> question(s) there was normally many answers or solutions offered by our
>> down to
>> earth fellow Rhodes 22 members. There are several political, religious,
>> off-color, financial, medical, legal, gear head........forums to express
>> one's
>> self. Keep Rhodes 22 an exchange of sailing related dialogue. I also
>> agree with
>> Ben, I do not want to offend the participants we are making reference,
>> their
>> positive contribution over the years have been (are) invaluable. Jim
>> Johnston
>>
>>
>>> Dear Ed;
>>>
>>> I becoming genuinely concerned about you. I'm serious. This list is
>>> supposed to be a "sailor's bar", full of fun, friendship,
>>>
>> spirited debate,
>>
>>> and some interesting banter about the Rhodes 22. What are you doing?
>>> Are
>>> you trying to engender truly bad blood between list members? Posting a
>>> title like this is, in my humble opinion, dirty pool. I want you to
>>> consider moderating your tone just alittle. You can make your points,
>>> more
>>> effectively I think, without impugning the integrity of Rob, or anyone
>>> else
>>> who disagees with you (me).
>>>
>>> Frankly, when I read the title of your post I thought you were referring
>>> to
>>> Brad's expressed desire to subject the internet hackers to prison rape
>>>
>> (last
>>
>>> time I looked rape of a prisoner was criminal activity). I was prepared
>>> to
>>> defend my fellow Rhodie (Brad) by telling you that we all know Brad was
>>> speaking figuratively to make a point. He was referring to some
>>> anonymous
>>> evil doers who ought to be severely punished (a sentiment with which I
>>> agree) and was using some hyperbole for emphasis.
>>>
>>> On the other hand you suggested that Rob's remark condoned the hackers
>>> activity which it clearly did not. You were just being mean. Why?
>>>
>> Because
>>
>>> you see conspiracies in every sunrise for goodness sake.
>>>
>>> Lord knows why, but I do enjoy seeing you here and I don't want you to
>>> give
>>> yourself a stroke. Be well,
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>> Ben C., s/v Susan Kay. Highlands, NJ
>>>
>>> Tootle wrote:
>>>
>>>> It was said today on this forum, "Nixon's aides went to prison for
>>>> obstruction of justice, which strikes me as a much more serious crime.
>>>> Everyone, especially a high profile public servant, should expect their
>>>> accounts to be hacked these days.
>>>>
>>>> Isn't this statement condoning criminal activity?
>>>>
>>>> Is this an example of what he is supporting? "A message goes out
>>>>
>> over
>>
>>>> Barack Obama's Web site
>>>> with the names, phone numbers and e-mails of editors and producers
>>>>
>> foolish
>>
>>>> enough to host Obama critics. With Mr. Obama's extensive digital
>>>> following, and his extensive fund-raising and contact lists,
>>>> shutting up the Democratic nominee's critics with a fraction of Mr.
>>>> Obama's millions of supporters is relatively simple. The digital
>>>>
>> legions
>>
>>>> plug phone lines, crash servers and intimidate the advertisers
>>>> of these media outlets. This must be another instance of the
>>>>
>> "new"
>>
>>>> politics that Mr. Obama frequently talks about.
>>>>
>>>> Sounds like the fellow travelers are out to 'kill America'. I am
>>>>
>> waiting
>>
>>>> for a member of the Bar to support this activity?
>>>>
>>>> Ed K
>>>> Greenville, SC, USA
>>>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p19559178/MSNBC.bmp MSNBC.bmp
>>>>
>>>>
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