[Rhodes22-list] Pointing Problem

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Lee,
With a whisker pole you could have left the full 175 genny out and really  
had a ride going wing on wing.
 
Rummy
 
 
In a message dated 9/22/2008 11:08:26 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
LKUHN at cnmc.org writes:

Paul,

Don't know if this helps but on Saturday I went out  single-handed with the 
winds very consistent at about 10 to 10.5  knots.

Board down, traveler centered, full main, poptop up, sheets  between inner 
and outer shrouds across the deck, Genoa furled just past the  outer shroud to 
about 115%.  Tiller locked in the center.  Heel  between 10 and 15 degrees.  
Body weight mostly on windward seat.   Chop was only a little more than a foot.  
Speed was consistent at just  above 4 knots.  Tacked and after recovery there 
was a 90 degree  difference on the compass, which would be exactly 45 degrees 
into the  wind.  By that calculation I could have been doing 40 degrees on 
one tack  and 50 degrees on the other but it's doubtful.  Heel was slightly more 
on  the starboard tack due to the weight of the motor.

I was a little  surprised that the boat would do that well with the poptop 
up, boom up, and  without the sheets being ran across the poptop between the 
mast and inner  shroud.  I still believe that in the right conditions the boat 
will do  better than 40 degrees, although I don't know how much speed would be  
lost.

Decided to complete the triangle and sail back to the marina  entrance on a 
run with the wind and waves directly behind me.  Furled in  the Genoa and 
released the boom so it was just touching the shrouds.  The  loose-footed main was 
still pulled flat tight and the inner shroud protruded  into the sail.  Not 
exactly optimal sail shape for the  point-of-sail.  Pulled up the centerboard.  
Speed was about 5 knots,  but I think the waves helped a lot.  Sailing with 
just the main is  certainly an easy means of sailing with the wind.  Tiller 
again was  locked to the center and my weight was balanced in the center of the  
boat.

Had time to do another triangle so I tried it with the exact same  conditions 
but with the centerboard up.  Compass reading difference was  98 degrees and 
speed picked up about 0.3 knots.  Heeled increased but  less than 5 degrees.

On a scale of 1 to 10, I hate to rate anthing a  10, so I'll give the sailing 
conditions on Saturday a  9.9.

Lee




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From:  Alan Robertson [mailto:bigal_61 at msn.com]
Sent: Sun 9/21/2008 10:11  PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Pointing  Problem



I realize that you sail a lot single handed; we don't.  The only time we can 
point up closer is to run the jib sheets inside of the  outmost shrouds, sit 
any "friendly" guests over 150 lbs. on the windward side  with life preservers 
buckled and get THOR IV over on a nice 12-15 degree heel.  Anything more or 
any weight on the leeward side means a mop-up job if the  non-sailors have just 
had lunch!
Bigal_61 at msn.com

----- Original  Message -----
From: Paul  Krawitz<mailto:krawitzmail-rhodes22 at yahoo.com>
To:  rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 8:13 AM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list]  Pointing Problem


I love the way my Rhodes 22 handles in all  points of sail except when it is
close hauled.
In my  narrow harbor, being able to point close to the wind is the  difference
between returning home in 30 minutes versus 3  hours.

Now I'm not asking to be able to be 30 degrees off the  wind like those two
guys racing around in a catamaran with no  seating and two angled standing
platforms, and like members of the  Joffrey Ballet, gracefully leaping from
one side to the other,  making smooth and instantaneous tacks and traveling
at 15 knots (no  exaggeration).
(P.S. What is that thing?)

But it would  be nice to make 90 degree rather than 110 or 120 degree tacks.

Stan put in two internal lead systems on the new Rhodes, in which the  jib
sheets travel either inside one or two of the shrouds. But the  sail area is
so much smaller with the new system that making headway  is difficult.

Furling the genoa jib 50% with the sheets on their  normal path outside the
shrouds seems to be the best compromise, but  I'm still 50-60 degrees off the
wind.

I tried  tightening the backstays to stiffen up the jib luff. The jib looks
cleaner, but I'm still too far off the wind.

And yes, the  centerboard is down.

What works for you?

Paul  K
"Clarity"
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