[Rhodes22-list] Health Care (Political)

Thu Sep 25 11:43:51 EDT 2008

Brad

What problem? I  only said that I felt health care was good and provided it
for concrete reasons. You are assuming that I advocate universal health
care?

Andrew

On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:

> Andrew,
>
> Kudos to you for treating your employees well.  My employer provides
> me with gold-plated health care (my part is about $140 per month) but
> they have 200,000+ employees to spread the risk among.
>
> The health care issue was solved by me and a doctor from Middle
> Tennessee last Spring on a cruise ship from Alaska.  All it took was a
> bottle of scotch and some good cigars. Unfortunately, we didn't have a
> stenographer to take notes.  TennCare, Tennessee's attempt at
> universal health care, "broke the bank".  Our Governor, Phil Bredesen
> - Democrat, made his millions in the health-care industry and he's a
> smart guy.  He couldn't make it work without seriously cutting back on
> benefits and eligibility.
>
> So here's the plan that the good doctor and I came-up with.  Encourage
> everyone to participate in HSA's, health savings plans, that are
> already on the books.  Give everyone a $2500 tax credit on the front
> end to fund their personal account.  After that, the first $2500 of
> costs each year on you, no matter what.  Set a hard limit on total
> lifetime expenditures (mine is currently at 2 million with my
> employer). If 90 year old grandma's life can be extended another 90
> days by spending another million bucks and she's only got $25 left in
> her account, well, it must be time for granny to go.  You have to
> solve the cost issues at the far end of the tails of this problem to
> make it work.
>
> What's next, nuclear proliferation?  Naw, you got that one, I'm headed
> to the hangar.
>
> Brad
>
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Andrew Collins
> <sailingvesselcarmen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Guys
> >
> > Health care is not entirely economic. Having health care is good, right?
> I
> > think we can agree on that.
> >
> > As an Enlightened Capitalist, socially liberal, econically
> > prudent/conservative, admitted fallow traveller and small business owner,
> I
> > pay for 85% of the healthcare cost for all of my employees. In NYC no
> less,
> > which is more than double the cost in adjacent regions like New England
> and
> > the mid-Atlantic (I know, I checked).
> >
> > Why do I break ranks with Wal-mart?  Let me count the ways:
> > 1. It is the right thing to do.
> > 2. I can't sleep at night if I don't do it.
> > 3. It makes my employees able to have families and live like the
> civilized
> > people they are. They need not fear becoming ill.
> > 4. It makes them loyal, and makes them less likely to quit, so I profit
> by
> > retaining the institutional knowledge they have in-house.
> > 5. It makes my firm more attractive than other consulting firms when a
> > candidate must choose between firms. Benefits are important.
> > 6. All of the above works, we have very little turn over, the quality of
> our
> > product is recognized by our stable client roster.
> >
> > One man's plan
> >
> > Andrew
> > EC
> > sv Carmen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Rob,
> >>
> >> Did you take the time to poke around the website of the movie?
> >> Liberal claptrap. I don't have the time or energy to debunk all the
> >> silliness printed there but I will take on WalMart.  First, I love
> >> WalMart, probably because I'm a heathen redneck and like the fact that
> >> I can buy bullets in the gun department while my wife is shopping for
> >> tomatoes, but whatever.  WalMart could offer its employees health
> >> care, hell, they COULD offer them free housing.  You'd pay more for
> >> goods at WalMart but then you don't shop there anyway, right?  Does
> >> the farmer's market where you buy your arugula offer health care?
> >> WalMart is a business and one that is very well run (and besides, if
> >> my 401K doesn't recover I may want to work there someday).
> >>
> >> Do they have an economics department on your campus?  Maybe you should
> >> broaden your education some.
> >>
> >> Brad
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 7:56 AM, Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> >> > Too bad it's too true to be funny. - rob
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Brad Haslett
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 7:01 PM
> >> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re publican's Web Site! (Political)
> >> >
> >> > Ed,
> >> >
> >> > That's Funny!
> >> >
> >> > Brad
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> See:  http://imvotingrepublican.com/
> >> >>
> >> >> And I quote, 'stir the pot'.
> >> >>
> >> >> Ed K
> >> >> Greenville, SC, USA
> >> >> --
> >> >> View this message in context:
> >> >
> http://www.nabble.com/Republican%27s-Web-Site%21-%28Political%29-tp19659
> >> > 662p19659662.html
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> >> >>
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