[Rhodes22-list] sailing sense #2 or something you already know

Luis Guzman trpclman at yahoo.com
Fri Sep 26 11:39:12 EDT 2008


Stan,

So, if somehow I could reinforce the top of the cabin to attach the upper shroud there, then it would be possible to do this. How much force those chain plates should be able to withstand?

Luis
S/V Miracle



----- Original Message ----
From: stan <stan at rhodes22.com>
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Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:22:33 AM
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upper shrouds have to be to the chain plates that are fixed the overlap of 
the hull and deck.  chain plates to cabin are not strong enough.

ss

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Luis Guzman" <trpclman at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] sailing sense #2 or something you already know


Stan,

I'm curious if the stay that is attached to the spreader could also be 
attached to the cabin top and at the same time have a shorter spreader. This 
way the Genoa could be brought closer to the mast and you would not have to 
deal with trying to bring the Genoa in between the stays and having to furl 
it..

I wanted to experiment and modify my '75 Rhodes this way, but I sold it, and 
I do not want to experiment with the '82 Rhodes.

Luis
S/V Miracle



----- Original Message ----
From: stan <stan at rhodes22.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 9:12:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] sailing sense #2 or something you already know

dedicated to Dr. Krawitz (Paul to his fellow Rhodies) re pointing, to Rummy
for reminding me and Ed and Dan and others for responding to my "Test".

I attempted this some time ago but it seems I had been excommunicated from
the List for ignoring the don't tell code on my take on religion. MM now
has me back in temporary good standing but did not pass on the blocked
message, I sent it off List to John to post but he may not have received
it. I sent it off List to Rummy to post but it looks like he did not get it
either so, having passed the "test", I will try again:


Lee, I need a curious Rhodie to give my guess a try.

When Phil designed the boat he had no idea we would build it so good or
that there would be a UPP on the transom or that owners would over stuff
the lazaret and
themselves, so it sits too low at the stern.

It is my guess that if the nose of the boat were lowered in the water:
a) The transom would come up leading to less turbulence (more speed)
b) The water line would increase leading to better wave formation
(more speed)
c) The fin's center of effort would move slightly more forward
leading to better helm (possibly more speed)
d) And pointing ability would improve.

Lee, try putting 200 pounds or more temporary ballast way forward in the V
berth and then put your boat through all your double blind tests and call
Dr. Krawitz in the morning.

One other TRICK, if you have the energy:

The large spreader width on the Rhodes was designed to make using the
shrouds as vertical life lines, when walking to the bow via the boat's cabin
side decks, comfortable. Drastically cut back the length of the spreader
tubes. This will allow better pointing using the full genoa, or any genoa
size larger than can be used when switching to the secondary genoa jib sheet
leads inside the upper shrouds.

Allow we proud parents an aside: Now that we are all socialists I want to
remind you that Cindy's book, "America's Bubble Economy" (Barnes and Noble)
was right on the money. You do not want to hear what the economists behind
this book are predicting from here on ..............

ss

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