[Rhodes22-list] Brad - definitely gas in Tennessee
Herb Parsons
hparsons at parsonsys.com
Sat Sep 27 19:55:59 EDT 2008
I tried to, but wanted to hedge my bet some. I said that I'd take him up
on it but that it would be "no one wins" bet if she accepted and Obama
announced a single term candidacy.
I don't think Hillary is interested in being VP for 8 years.
Interestingly, some of the folks I race with (a couple) are both
Democrats. They wanted Hillary to be the P candidate, and now they want
Obama to win.
They both agreed that Hillary would likely take the #2 spot, because
"she wants to make history"; they also both agreed that it would be like
putting a target on Obama's back.
These are her FANS!!
TN Rhodey wrote:
> I saw Brad's call for VP bets too late. I do agree that Biden was a poor
> chooice but I don't see him getting dumped...of course anything is possible.
> Man I am getting sucked back into the list politics.......Did Brad get any
> takers?.
> On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 1:45 PM, petelargo <petelauritzen at earthlink.net>wrote:
>
>
>> You called it right Wally. I wasn't on the posts 2 1/2 years ago. But for
>> the
>> year I have been on the posts Brad has been a musician on the titanic -
>> financially. More falling predictions: He also stated numerous times in
>> March-April that Obama was total political toast and would never be elected
>> to anything again. We are awaiting his "inside knowledge" call that Biden
>> will be replaced with Hillary.
>>
>>
>> TN Rhodey-2 wrote:
>>
>>> Brad, Sorry I call Bullshit.....Did you read my post????You and I did
>>>
>> not
>>
>>> agree on this 2.5 years ago . You said this crisis was limited to
>>> sub-prime
>>> and a minor problem. Do you remember telling all how rosy the economy
>>>
>> was,
>>
>>> the cost of war was not a problem, and how little the sub-prime crisis
>>> would
>>> hurt the economy? Just a speed bump compared to the S & L crisis. you
>>> said...You provided links that you claimed supported your views (often
>>> they
>>> did not). You actually told me to go back to school and read some
>>>
>> economic
>>
>>> books.You do remember all of your rosy claims and me suggesting you
>>>
>> remove
>>
>>> your rose colored glasses? Come on I know you remember. ..... If you had
>>>
>> a
>>
>>> pair you would admit you were a little off the mark if not flat out
>>>
>> wrong.
>>
>>> I told you way back then that sub-prime was just the tip of the ice berg
>>> and the crisis would hit Alt A, A paper, consumer credit and commercial..
>>> You disagreed and painted a rosy picture. Now you tell me the problem is
>>> commercial.......you are too much. This is what I TOLD you. Thanks for
>>> playing. Selective memory is a great thing! LOL
>>>
>>>
>>> You say we need to bail these institutions out. I thought we were better
>>> off letting the private sector handle these problems? We can trust the
>>> government to fix this problem but they can't handle health care???
>>> Honestly
>>> if this wasn't so serious it would strike me as funny. This bail out may
>>> very well be the right thing but we don't need to make a hasty knee jerk
>>> decision. This is the same type of thought process that got us into Iraq.
>>> There may be more than one way to skin this cat. We need to get it right.
>>>
>>> Comrades hang on to your wallets and tighten your belts!
>>>
>>> Fair Winds, Wally
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com>
>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> Wally,
>>>>
>>>> The immediate crisis is commercial paper. If the market quits buying
>>>> and selling commercial paper the wheels of the entire economy grind to
>>>> a halt. That IS bad.
>>>>
>>>> You and I agreed 2.5 years ago that the real estate market silliness
>>>> wouldn't last forever and it didn't. The financial institutions would
>>>> have made a correction but for Fanny and Freddie continuing to serve
>>>> "free" drinks until the patrons fell off their bar stools.
>>>>
>>>> As for safe, do business with a local bank. I bank with the Memphis
>>>> Area Teachers Credit Union and they hold their own loans. There's
>>>> nothing sexy about borrowing money at 4% and lending it at 7% but it's
>>>> worked for years. Every community has a small bank or S&L.
>>>>
>>>> Complaining about the equities market going South makes about as much
>>>> sense as me whining about my airplane losing 30% of its value in the
>>>> last year. It is only a problem if I plan to sell (and I don't). The
>>>> stock market has outperformed every other investment in the long run.
>>>> For most Americans, the long run means the day after tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>> Never forget what Thomas Malthus said about the long run. In the long
>>>> run, we'll all be dead!
>>>>
>>>> Brad
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 9:35 AM, TN Rhodey <tnrhodey at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Did Brad really say this crisis is worse than people think...congrats
>>>>>
>>>> it
>>>>
>>>>> looks like you finally got it! I told you this was going to be huge
>>>>>
>> 2.5
>>
>>>>> years ago. But no no no....Brad you really had your blinders on but it
>>>>> sounds like you may be catching up!......Thankfully I ignored the
>>>>>
>>>> optimistic
>>>>
>>>>> opinions of Brad, Ed, Herb (maybe a few others).and made dramatic
>>>>>
>>>> changes
>>>> to
>>>>
>>>>> my meager portfolio over the last 2 years. Now i am worried about my
>>>>>
>>>> bank
>>>>
>>>>> closing.....there is only so much FDIC insurance to go around. Bank
>>>>>
>>>> runs
>>>>
>>>>> are making a comeback. What is safe?
>>>>>
>>>>> I say no bail out! Let the chips fall..... It will be ugly but does
>>>>>
>>>> anyone
>>>>
>>>>> really think the government can fix this? Plenty of blame to go around
>>>>>
>>>> but
>>>>
>>>>> this is all about greed at every level. I find no joy in seeing my
>>>>>
>>>> fears
>>>>
>>>>> realized......hopefully not my WORSE fears.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe we could fix this the "American" way.......we can get one of
>>>>>
>>>> those
>>>>
>>>>> Credit Repair/Tax Settlement companies to renegotiate our debt with
>>>>> China.....or can we just default on our debt and tell China tough
>>>>>
>> shit?
>>
>>>> We
>>>>
>>>>> can put the White House on the national "Do Not Call" list and get a
>>>>>
>>>> new
>>>>
>>>>> unlisted phone number for the White House. The national FICO score
>>>>>
>>>> will
>>>> go
>>>>
>>>>> down the shitter but a good credit repair company could help us
>>>>>
>> rebuild
>>
>>>> our
>>>>
>>>>> credit in a mere matter of a couple of years. Problem solved. Just
>>>>> kidding.....
>>>>>
>>>>> I just hope the new pres is up to the task.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fair winds, Wally
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 6:23 PM, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Ed,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Haven't heard anything about it but then I've been out of pocket
>>>>>> today. What I've been reading about the last hour is that the Dem's
>>>>>> don't want their version to pass without the Republicans on board
>>>>>> because then "they own it". Barney Frank tried to load it up with
>>>>>> Christmas ornaments, ie, "funding housing for the poor", etc. Hey
>>>>>> Barney, DUMBASS, that's how we got to this point. Anyway, he's
>>>>>> already backed down from that. The Republicans are getting Very
>>>>>>
>> Heavy
>>
>>>>>> anti-bailout messages from their constituents, and in the right-wing
>>>>>> blogsphere where I spend a fair amount of time, it is not popular.
>>>>>> That's an understatement. Bush wanted McCain to bring the Republicans
>>>>>> on board and I'm not sure McCain was able to do that. Presidential
>>>>>> election year or not, McCain is a RINO and he's not getting the party
>>>>>> to fall in line behind him in lockstep. My hope is that a bill gets
>>>>>> passed over the weekend, as clean a bill as we can possibly get. The
>>>>>> Dems have the votes to do it on their own and IMHO are on the right
>>>>>> side of the issue. The Republican concerns are valid but it's too
>>>>>> late to implement them. The crisis is worse than most people think.
>>>>>>
>> I
>>
>>>>>> can only watch TV news coverage until Harry Reid shows his face and
>>>>>> then I start looking for things to throw at the TV, so now I just
>>>>>> leave the room. Reid is a worthless asswipe that tries to politicize
>>>>>> everything. Obama has an opportunity to come out of this looking like
>>>>>> a hero even though his fingerprints are all over the cause of the
>>>>>> mess. Such is politics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can't say this year has been boring.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brad
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net>
>>>>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> You two guys have access to the latest information, what is behind
>>>>>>>
>>>> rumor
>>>>
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paulson is feeding Obama information thru his old friends at
>>>>>>>
>>>> Goldman,
>>>>
>>>>>> Sacks?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Next rumor: Is Paulson trying to bail out Goldman, Sacks so that
>>>>>>>
>> he
>>
>>>>>>> personnally is not brought into lawsuits to recover losses?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ed K
>>>>>>> Greenville, SC, USA
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