[Rhodes22-list] Another Reason to Clean House at The White House (Political)

Tue Sep 30 15:57:53 EDT 2008

Ben,

No, I don't remember Monica Goodling, the semi-cute but vapid blond,
but I was married to her once.  Do you have a photo?  As I get older
my "green arc" gets wider.  Hey, the Clinton years weren't wasted on
me.  Back channel is fine!

Brad

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Ben Cittadino <bcittadino at dcs-law.com> wrote:
>
> Brad,
>
> Man, you're wearin' me out. I know now why I'd like to fly with you.  If
> something were to go wrong, you'd keep fightin' to stay in the air 'til we
> hit the ground.
>
> Anyway, yes the President can fire anybody who works for him, but not for an
> illegal reason.  You can fire a black employee, but NOT because he's black.
> Monica Goodling (you remember her, the semi-cute but vapid blond) has
> already admitted that she hired folks for "career" (non-political) jobs
> using political criteria (remember the bunch of Regent University grads (the
> 97,489th rated law school in the US) she hired for DOJ because they were
> loyal "Bushies"). We'll see whether the fired US Attorneys were fired for
> legal reasons or not because the special prosecutor is on the case (at least
> until January, and hopefully thereafter).
>
> Best,
>
> Ben C.
>
> Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
>>
>> Ben,
>>
>> Just a point of clarification, we're talking about the executive
>> branch here are we not? Doesn't the POTUS have the authority to fire
>> anyone they want?  Aren't Federal Prosecutors always political
>> appointments?  Bush 43 fired eight.  Clinton fired ALL of them which
>> gave him some cover, the first time in history was it not? Is voter
>> fraud politically motivated?  I'd fire there ass too if they didn't
>> look into voter fraud.
>>
>> BTW, go on a cruise. You can get all the Cuban cigars you want. Every
>> trip to China I think about smuggling some back buy I'm usually so
>> loaded down with Chinese food that my wife forces on me that I'm
>> nervous enough as it is.
>>
>> Brad
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Ben Cittadino <bcittadino at dcs-law.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Brad;
>>>
>>> Let me try it this way.....If you fly that big silver (OK, mostly white)
>>> bird of yours from Memphis to Miami, it's perfectly legal; but if you fly
>>> from Memphis to Havana to Miami, you still end up in Miami but you've
>>> broken
>>> the law (especially if you picked up afew cigars on the stop-over).
>>>
>>> So if you fire the US Attorney in New Mexico for bad performance it's
>>> perfectly legal; but if you fire the US Attorney in New Mexico because he
>>> wouldn't bring a politically motivated prosecution at the behest of a
>>> senator then the US Attorney still ends up fired but you've broken the
>>> law.
>>> The bottom line is that the legislative branch is supposed to stay out of
>>> the prosecution business except to report crimes and get out of the way.
>>>
>>> That's my take on it anyway.
>>>
>>> Ben C.
>>>
>>> Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ben,
>>>>
>>>> The issue in New Mexico was voter fraud.  If the prosecutor is
>>>> dragging his/her feet on investigating voter fraud that favors a
>>>> particular party, and the AG fires him/her, how is this illegal?
>>>>
>>>> Brad
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Ben Cittadino <bcittadino at dcs-law.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Brad,
>>>>>
>>>>> That's the point my friend.  You can fire all 93.  You can fire 8.  You
>>>>> can
>>>>> fire any number, but you can't fire even 1 if it is for an illegal
>>>>> reason
>>>>> (like your pal Pete Domenici calling you to say "hey Karl we're in a
>>>>> tough
>>>>> election cycle here and the US Attorney hasn't indicted any Democrats
>>>>> yet...I want you to fire his ass).  Capishe??(is that spelled right?)
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Wishes,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ben C.
>>>>>
>>>>> Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ben,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh good grief!  Eight was it?  How about Clinton firing ALL 93?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110009784
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Try again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brad
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Ben Cittadino
>>>>>> <bcittadino at dcs-law.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/30/washington/30attorney.html?scp=1&sq=us%20attorneys%20special%20prosecutor&st=cse
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The above link describes the latest development in the scandal which
>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>> become known as the "US Attorney Firings Debacle".  I know there are
>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>> folks who believe that since US Attorneys serve at the pleasure of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> President, the replacement of a number of these federal prosecutors
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> 2006
>>>>>>> constituted much commotion over nothing much.  That's just not so.
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> independence of federal prosecutors from political influence was at
>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>> a proud hallmark of the Dept of Justice.  The process to appoint US
>>>>>>> Attorneys was undeniably political, just as the appointment of
>>>>>>> federal
>>>>>>> judges is political, but once "on the job" these men and women were
>>>>>>> supposed
>>>>>>> to be free to "follow the facts" or "follow the money" ( as some of
>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>> posters are fond of saying) in the pursuit of wrong-doing without
>>>>>>> fear
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> favor from political operatives. They could be fired for no reason,
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>> reason, but not for an illegal reason.  AG Mukasey (who was hired
>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>> Gonzales was forced to resign in part over this very issue)
>>>>>>> apparently
>>>>>>> believes there is reason to look into whether federal law enforcement
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> compromised by the likes of Harriet Myers, Karl Rove and others in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Bush
>>>>>>> White House.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The only way to ensure that this investigation continues after
>>>>>>> January
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> Elect Sen Obama as President of the United States.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ben C. s/v susan kay, highlands nj
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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