[Rhodes22-list] Politcal - Presidential Debate

[Ben Cittadino]

Rob, Pete, Brad;

I watched all of the debate in a room full of people at a social gathering
(I guess I wasn't being too social), and I was surprised that the entire
debate held the interest of well over 90% of the people in the room.  I
thought Obama was less successful in achieving his goal of tying McCain to
the failed policies of the Bush administration, than was McCain at achieving
his goal of portraying Obama as a neophyte, unready for the office of
President.  I agree that style points go to Obama, directing his remarks in
a more collegial tone to McCain, referring to his opponent as "John", and
being respectful to the older and more senior man, while maintaining a tone
of respectful disagreement. I thought McCain made some style points by his
good wishes for Sen Kennedy, and his not over-done personal stories (dare I
say Reaganesque).

I do think though that Obama held his own on the subject matter of foreign
policy, supposedly McCain's strongest suit.  It only gets better from here
on out.

Best,

Ben C.



petelargo wrote:
> 
> It's just my personal observation. Politics is the art of managing
> "perception". It has minimal to do with actual truth or whether
> 'prick-ness'  is good or bad. Like him or not, Obama has accomplished some
> amazing things politically, including taking down the Clinton machine.
> Why? They misjudged his "ground game".  The McCain campaign needed Palin
> to secure the religious vote as this was on shaky ground. He is getting
> some centrist women with Palin, but probably republican women that came
> back.  Now he's Mr. Hail Mary all over the place.  Perception of that
> looks desperate. Their problem again is the Obama ground game. He has
> registered over 10x more people than the repubs. If that 12 million is
> energized to show, watch out. 
> 
> 
> Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
>> 
>> Pete,
>> 
>> Obama did great!  He really did.  I was half expecting McCain, all 5'
>> 9' or so of him to walk across the stage and kick Obama in the nuts.
>> McCain showed some restraint - maybe that's something he learned in 5
>> years of captivity. Trust me one this, I work with fighter pilots and
>> it took some discipline on his part to resist the challenge. I don't
>> think these "beauty pageant" debates are as important as they were in
>> 1960 where Kennedy won the TV debate but Nixon won the radio debate,
>> now that we're in the age of the internet.
>> 
>> So the best guy is the one who is most "gentlemanly"?  My boss is a
>> first class prick.  I'm glad he's our prick and not the other sides.
>> 
>> Brad
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 2:57 PM, petelargo <petelauritzen at earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I personally thought McCain did as good as he could. Obama did not do as
>>> good
>>> as he could have. McCains condescending "stance" ie non eye contact, non
>>> acknowledgement of Obama, disdaining attitude, dominating the
>>> conversation,
>>> was not well received by polls.  They will fix him on the next one. He
>>> will
>>> be more gentlemanly. We will see if  Obama is willing to stick the knife
>>> in
>>> him in the next one.
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob Lowe wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What caught my attention during the debate is McCain would not look at
>>>> Obama and would not address him by name while Obama did both.  How does
>>>> McCain plan to stand up to other world leaders if he can't look his
>>>> advisory in the eye? - rob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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