[Rhodes22-list] Failure or success?

[Benjamin Cittadino]

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/30/opinion/30brooks.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/30/opinion/30brooks.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin 


Brad ,Robert;

The above link is to my favorite NY Times main stream media columnist.  I
like the way he thinks
about the "bailout" issue.

Ben C.

Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
> 
> Herb,
> 
> It works both ways.  When we lost our dump truck in an accident JAN07
> (a $30K loss after the lawsuits) the driver wanted me to pay for his
> hospital bills (about $6K).  "Marvin, you wanted to be an independent
> contractor, you are, you're 66, you have Medicare, I can't pay your
> bill without violating the law".  "I'll sue".  "Really, go ahead, I'll
> pay your bill and then send it to Medicare and the SS".  End of story.
> 
> You and I disagree on the immigrant issue.  We don't use any anymore
> because it isn't worth the risk, but, they work hard, they're honest,
> and they demand and get almost three times the minimum wage. We'd
> gladly hire locals but if you're living rent free in a FEMA trailer
> and drawing a stipend, there ain't no way in hell you're going to give
> that up for a job.
> 
> People don't get it!  Come down here to the trenches and I'll show you
> around folks.  Or, stick with your fantasies.  How's that working out?
> 
> Unless anyone thinks I'm heartless, I share a substantial amount of my
> earnings with family members who are less fortunate.  Ask the Big O
> about his brother.
> 
> Brad
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> wrote:
>> Brad,
>>
>> This is a true story. We are in the process of converting all of our
>> paper documents to electronic format. Today, as I was scanning in some
>> of the ex-employees (I've taken on theirs, because they're not pressing,
>> and I can do them when I have spare time), and came across an email that
>> was printed and saved, as a CYA.
>>
>> The employee has received a .50 an hour raise. Not much, but it wasn't
>> even an eval raise, it was just a "You're doing a good job" thing. She
>> was asking her supervisor to rescind it.
>>
>> Why? Because it put her in a different income bracket, and she would not
>> longer be able to get lunch subsidies. That .50 an hour, $20 a week, was
>> going to cos her $30 a week for her three kids (single mother).
>>
>> This was NOT a minimum wage employee we're talking about. She was making
>> well over triple the minimum wage. She had also left the company and
>> come back because her wages were higher here.
>>
>> However, she didn't see how turning down .50 an hour now costs her from
>> now until she no longer holds this job, and likely beyond, since often
>> the new job makes an offer based largely on what the old job paid. Not
>> only that, but she effectively froze her wages to wherever she works to
>> whatever this portion of the nanny state has dictated is her "limit"
>> before cutting off the freebies.
>>
>> That's what the nannny-state does for us.
>>
>>
>> Brad Haslett wrote:
>>> Robert,
>>>
>>> Why don't you come down to the Gulf Coast and be our human resources
>>> manager for a week for our little company.  We don't need one because
>>> we don't need to hire anyone, but it would be fun to video you
>>> answering the phone and listening to people who want to work for cash
>>> because they're drawing disability.  WPA?  Doesn't the W stand for
>>> work?  Ain't gonna happen buddy.  Welcome to the 21st Century in
>>> America.  Maybe in China - not happening here.
>>>
>>> Brad
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 7:24 PM, Robert Skinner
>>> <Robert at squirrelhaven.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Looks as if the neocon Republicans have
>>>> failed to socialize Wall Street's losses.
>>>>
>>>> Democrats are standing fast to let the
>>>> results of greed find their way back to
>>>> those who promoted and profited from it.
>>>>
>>>> Success will be the failure of the
>>>> companies who overextended their loan
>>>> positions.
>>>>
>>>> It is going to be a rough ride, and we
>>>> will have to help out our neighbors who
>>>> made foolish borrowing decisions.
>>>>
>>>> That is truly conservative behavior.
>>>>
>>>> How curious it is that so many Democrats
>>>> are joining with old-line Republicans to
>>>> restrain the modern go-go neocons.
>>>>
>>>> The people are not willing to allow the
>>>> nouveau rich CEOs to keep their
>>>> multimillion bail-out packages - the
>>>> packages designed to insulate them from
>>>> the consequences of their decisions.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps we will need another WPA/CCC to
>>>> recover from this experiment in economic
>>>> deregulation.
>>>>
>>>> What the Hell -- most of our really
>>>> beautiful parkways and rural public
>>>> structures cam from the last depression.
>>>>
>>>> Makes the head spin...
>>>>
>>>> /Robert
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