[Rhodes22-list] 2Re: Re design of Rhodes Interior and elimination of comp...

[Arthur H. Czerwonky]

Rummy,
Did I hit a nerve?  Even for da boys this could open up the boat more.  What if you had told Stan to leave the dam interior alone when he intruduced his enclosed head.  The V-berth extension goes back at least to my old Rodger Rookey '79 R22.   There's nothing radical new in what I suggested.  What happened, did the lake stop rising---    could you have run out of Mount Gay!
Art

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>From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
>Sent: Apr 13, 2009 4:36 PM
>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 2Re: Re design of Rhodes Interior and	elimination of comp...
>
>Art,
>Leave the dam interior alone. Some of us don't want our lady friends to get 
> too damn comfortable on our boats. Perhaps you like spending more time 
>with  yours than I do mine. An afternoon once or twice a year is sufficient. 
>The  remainder of the time is spend with da boys doing real sailing.
> 
>Rummy
> 
> 
>In a message dated 4/13/2009 12:25:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
>czerwonky at earthlink.net writes:
>
>John,
>
>I'm not sure I am bold enough to alter the compression  post, but your 
>venture into this unknown arena will learn us all.  Your  project could be a 
>tremendous incentive for many of us to tailor the boat to  their needs.  My 
>wife has been 'discouraged' by the interior space  limitations.  Use of the 
>table insert in the cabin was marginal. It  didn't mollify her cramped feeling 
>to sleep in the v-berth, just too difficult  to move around.  The ladies are 
>much more sensitive to this than we are,  but can make the cruise 
>'happening' either very enjoyable or very  miserable.
>
>Our take - with the full bed deployed in the cabin (table  top setup, 
>non-enclosed head) it is most difficuly moving to and using the  pottie, however 
>it is configured.  Using the v-berth for sleeping, with  pottie behind the 
>bulkhead, negotiating the midnight mission is no  easier.  I typically don't 
>get up, based on sound prior strategic  planning, but the ladies must be 
>somehow different.  
>
>Thoughts:  
>
>The dynamic and static loads in our mast rig are mostly downward and  
>carried by the compression post, wood or metal.  There is probably some  lateral 
>stiffening provided by the starboard divider bulkhead although not  heavy 
>duty I imagine.  Stan would have insights into this.  There is  a twisting 
>action on the cross-section, maybe not of significance.  You  may know that the 
>new "enclosed head" layout on the new newer boats is very  'open' with the 
>sliding window hatch on the bunk side (ergo little lateral  stiffening), so 
>I don't think Stan is concerned with any loading on the boat  except the 
>vertical loads transmitted thru the compression post.  I would  appreciate his 
>sage advice.
>
>My resolution looks like this, suitable for  porta potty equipped - like 
>yours, have a v-berth extension board, full width,  sectioned and hinged, to 
>rest on supports throughout, making a respectable  bunking area for two.  
>Additionally, cut and frame a window in the  bulkhead for ventilation, light, 
>and access.  We need to get our ladies  more enthusiastic about cruising more 
>that a night or weekend.  This is a  major reason I make the BR, which, 
>btw, had a nice redo in both full and PTE  models.
>
>Inputs welcome,
>
>Art
>s/v Mary Jane
>Atlanta/St.  Pete
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: John Shulick  <jsbudda at verizon.net>
>>Sent: Apr 13, 2009 8:25 AM
>>To:  rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re design of  Rhodes Interior and elimination 
>of compression  post.
>>
>>
>>Hank,
>>
>>You are correct, the load  must be transferred to the bulkhead and the
>>bulkead needs to be  securely attached to the hull/deck/cabintop to
>>distribute the load. In  addition since moving the stays inboard will 
>reduce
>>the mechanical  advantage, the boat should stiffen up a bit with regards to
>>heeling.  The load on the stays will increase so I would also consider 
>moving
>>up  to 5/32 wire rather than using the standard 1/8
>>
>>John S   
>>
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