[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 1936, Issue 5 north channel sailing
cowie
ccowie at cowieassociates.com
Wed Aug 5 11:47:10 EDT 2009
Richard:
Thanks for input on the North Channel. Definitely on my list of places to
sail in the future. I am spending a couple of weeks in Charlevoix Michigan
jealously watching my daughter and nieces spend their afternoons at sail
school. My R22 sadly sits in her slip back on the Chesapeake. I saw what
looked like a white R22 sitting on a trailer when our plane was taxiing off
the runway yesterday in Traverse City. Wonder who's boat that is?
richard mac arthur wrote:
>
> Cowie, I've sailed across Lake Huron from Rogers City Mi, to Tobermoray
> Ontario many times in sailboats from 27' to 40'. Many times there's
> little wind. Sometimes you could only see the top of the mast of the
> boat next to you. The Rhodes is a seaworthy boat and it could be fun but
> for a sure thing you could trailer to Tobermoray, launch there and sail
> the north channel of Lake Huron where you can see the bottom at 50 feet,
> anchor in coves among granite islands with wild blueberries, fish for
> 40" pike, breath the fresh air of mixed pine and white birch forests,
> watch moon lit clouds burst over the hilly ridges at night, listen to
> loons in the evening, perhaps see an occasional black bear and swim and
> bathe in the cool water. This adds to the years of your life. Richard
>
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> 1. Re: Blew_Skies website (Michael D. Weisner)
> 2. Re: Blue_Skies Website (David Culp)
> 3. Re: Blew_Skies website (John Lock)
> 4. Re: Blue_Skies Website (John Lock)
> 5. Seattle Seafair Turns 60 (David Bradley)
> 6. Re: Blue_Skies Website (Michael D. Weisner)
> 7. AC panel? (Ron Singerman)
> 8. Re: Blue_Skies Website (John Lock)
> 9. Re: Cracks in Cement Ballast (R22RumRunner at aol.com)
> 10. Re: Cracks in Cement Ballast (R22RumRunner at aol.com)
> 11. Re: Blue_Skies Website (cowie)
> 12. Re: Blue_Skies Website (michael meltzer)
> 13. Re: Blue_Skies Website (Michael D. Weisner)
> 14. Re: Michigan (cowie)
> 15. Re: Portable Butane Stove Question (cowie)
> 16. Re: AC panel? (cowie)
> 17. Re: Blue_Skies Website (cowie)
> 18. Searching archives (Michael D. Weisner)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:19:55 -0400
> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Blew_Skies website
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <F331BAA122A14013970AB46ADA73A22C at ebsoffice>
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> John,
>
> Thanks for looking into it. It appears to be a great collection of R22
> stuff and would be a terrible loss if it just disappeared. It was from
> before my time on "da list" so I cannot offer any help as to who put it
> together.
>
> Any comments MJM or Rummy?
>
> Mike
> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
>
> From: "John Lock" Monday, August 03, 2009 1:25 PM
>> Yes, it is technically possible. However, that material is all owned
>> by whoever put it together, so it is copyrighted. I can't just lift
>> it and make a copy. I don't know if the people listed on that site
>> are even still around, the geocities account for the developer no
>> longer exists. But I can send off some e-mail to see if I get a
>> response.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> John Lock
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
>> Lake Sinclair, GA
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>> On Aug 3, 2009, at 12:13, Michael D. Weisner wrote:
>>> John Lock,
>>>
>>> Is it possible to incorporate the contents of the "blew_skies" site
>>> on the
>>> www.Rhodes22.org? It seems that there is so much wonderful
>>> information
>>> there. Who owns or maintains the account? I know that there is a
>>> link from
>>> Rhodes22.org in the R22/FAQ section.
>>>
>>> It just seems that this wealth of information could be made more
>>> accessible.
>>> Something else to ponder in your non-existent spare time.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>>
>>>
>>> From: "Mary Lou Troy" Monday, August 03, 2009 11:38 AM
>>>> There is an account of Roger Pihlaja's trip to Garden Island and
>>>> Beaver Island in his Rhodes 22 in the old Rhodes FAQ here:
>>>> http://www.geocities.com/blew_skies/gardeni.html
>>>>
>>>> Note that Roger is a fine sailor and outdoorsman. He also used
>>>> regularly post accounts of winter camping trips with his sons.
>>>>
>>>> Mary Lou
>>>> 1991 R22 Fretless
>>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 12:58 AM 8/3/2009, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Cowie,
>>>>> Several years ago I sailed with my son on our 32-footer from
>>>>> Traverse City to Charlevoix, MackinacIsland, then down to Beaver
>>>>> Island, back to Charlevoix and its long lake. I wouldn't do it on
>>>>> our Rhodes 22 because the waves can build up to 6 ft. even in the
>>>>> best weather, I suppose due to thelong fetch. I think Charlevoix
>>>>> Lake would be quite nice for your R 22, as well as maybe the two
>>>>> Traverse City Bays.
>>>>> Al Keblinskas
>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:20:56 -0700
>>>>>> From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com
>>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Michigan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have any rhodies sailed to beaver island, makinaw, north
>>>>> channell? Are these
>>>>>> areas to challengng for a r22? I live in Washington dc but have
>>>>>> spent
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> last 25 summer.vacations in charleviox mi and may eventualy
>>>>>> trailer my
>>>>>> boat
>>>>>> from the Chesapeake to michigan.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>> http://www.nabble.com/Michigan-tp24784418p24784418.html
>>>>>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>>>
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> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:10:42 -0500
> From: David Culp <dculp at hsbtx.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Blue_Skies Website
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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> You may want to grab it because I think I just read that Geocities was
> shutting down pretty soon. Be nice if you could FTP all the files to
> one
> location and then work on it from there at leisure.
>
> David
>
> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:07:39 -0400
> From: "michael meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Blew_Skies website
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <054401ca1465$49bcc1c0$dd364540$@com>
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>
> Yes you can :-) Ask asked him a number of year ago if we could copy the
> site
> and use it on Rhodes22.org because he was not updating it any more(I
> think
> he sold the boat), got permission, I started creating a wiki out of
> it(since
> lost), but could not get Ed/Bill to keep it going. I still think the
> best
> bet would be to wget the pages and cut them into a wiki so it can be
> update
> by anyone on the list and keep it living. Just remember John "no good
> deed
> will go unpunished". :-)
>
> -mjm
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Lock
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:26 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Blew_Skies website
>
> Yes, it is technically possible. However, that material is all owned
> by whoever put it together, so it is copyrighted. I can't just lift
> it and make a copy. I don't know if the people listed on that site
> are even still around, the geocities account for the developer no
> longer exists. But I can send off some e-mail to see if I get a
> response.
>
> Cheers!
> John Lock
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
> Lake Sinclair, GA
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
> On Aug 3, 2009, at 12:13, Michael D. Weisner wrote:
>> John Lock,
>>
>> Is it possible to incorporate the contents of the "blew_skies" site
>> on the
>> www.Rhodes22.org <http://www.rhodes22.org/>? It seems that there is
> so
> much wonderful
>> information
>> there. Who owns or maintains the account? I know that there is a
>> link from
>> Rhodes22.org in the R22/FAQ section.
>>
>> It just seems that this wealth of information could be made more
>> accessible.
>> Something else to ponder in your non-existent spare time.
>>
>> Mike
>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>
>>
>> From: "Mary Lou Troy" Monday, August 03, 2009 11:38 AM
>>> There is an account of Roger Pihlaja's trip to Garden Island and
>>> Beaver Island in his Rhodes 22 in the old Rhodes FAQ here:
>>> http://www.geocities.com/blew_skies/gardeni.html
>>>
>>> Note that Roger is a fine sailor and outdoorsman. He also used
>>> regularly post accounts of winter camping trips with his sons.
>>>
>>> Mary Lou
>>> 1991 R22 Fretless
>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>
>>>
>>> At 12:58 AM 8/3/2009, you wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cowie,
>>>> Several years ago I sailed with my son on our 32-footer from
>>>> Traverse City to Charlevoix, MackinacIsland, then down to Beaver
>>>> Island, back to Charlevoix and its long lake. I wouldn't do it on
>>>> our Rhodes 22 because the waves can build up to 6 ft. even in the
>>>> best weather, I suppose due to thelong fetch. I think Charlevoix
>>>> Lake would be quite nice for your R 22, as well as maybe the two
>>>> Traverse City Bays.
>>>> Al Keblinskas
>>>>
>>>>> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:20:56 -0700
>>>>> From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com
>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Michigan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Have any rhodies sailed to beaver island, makinaw, north
>>>> channell? Are these
>>>>> areas to challengng for a r22? I live in Washington dc but have
>>>>> spent
>>>>> the
>>>>> last 25 summer.vacations in charleviox mi and may eventualy
>>>>> trailer my
>>>>> boat
>>>>> from the Chesapeake to michigan.
>>>>> --
>>>>> View this message in context:
>>>> http://www.nabble.com/Michigan-tp24784418p24784418.html
>>>>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>>
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list
>>>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>> _________________________________________________________________
>>>> Get your vacation photos on your phone!
>>>>
> http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx?&OCID=0809TL-H
> M
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:13:52 -0400
> From: John Lock <jlock at relevantarts.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Blew_Skies website
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <46FA5290-4290-4563-A959-3D07BF527020 at relevantarts.com>
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> Thanks for the history. If permission was already obtained, then I
> will see what I can do. The wiki approach is good and one that I
> would support. Even if we don't get any more updates, it will still
> be archived in a safe place. But I'll bet there are plenty of new
> facts that can be added and old ones amended.
>
> Stay tuned for future developments...
>
> Cheers!
> John Lock
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
> Lake Sinclair, GA
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
> On Aug 3, 2009, at 14:07, michael meltzer wrote:
>> Yes you can :-) Ask asked him a number of year ago if we could copy
>> the site
>> and use it on Rhodes22.org because he was not updating it any more(I
>> think
>> he sold the boat), got permission, I started creating a wiki out of
>> it(since
>> lost), but could not get Ed/Bill to keep it going. I still think the
>> best
>> bet would be to wget the pages and cut them into a wiki so it can be
>> update
>> by anyone on the list and keep it living. Just remember John "no
>> good deed
>> will go unpunished". :-)
>>
>> -mjm
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Lock
>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:26 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Blew_Skies website
>>
>> Yes, it is technically possible. However, that material is all owned
>> by whoever put it together, so it is copyrighted. I can't just lift
>> it and make a copy. I don't know if the people listed on that site
>> are even still around, the geocities account for the developer no
>> longer exists. But I can send off some e-mail to see if I get a
>> response.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> John Lock
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
>> Lake Sinclair, GA
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>> On Aug 3, 2009, at 12:13, Michael D. Weisner wrote:
>>> John Lock,
>>>
>>> Is it possible to incorporate the contents of the "blew_skies" site
>>> on the
>>> www.Rhodes22.org? It seems that there is so much wonderful
>>> information
>>> there. Who owns or maintains the account? I know that there is a
>>> link from
>>> Rhodes22.org in the R22/FAQ section.
>>>
>>> It just seems that this wealth of information could be made more
>>> accessible.
>>> Something else to ponder in your non-existent spare time.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>>
>>>
>>> From: "Mary Lou Troy" Monday, August 03, 2009 11:38 AM
>>>> There is an account of Roger Pihlaja's trip to Garden Island and
>>>> Beaver Island in his Rhodes 22 in the old Rhodes FAQ here:
>>>> http://www.geocities.com/blew_skies/gardeni.html
>>>>
>>>> Note that Roger is a fine sailor and outdoorsman. He also used
>>>> regularly post accounts of winter camping trips with his sons.
>>>>
>>>> Mary Lou
>>>> 1991 R22 Fretless
>>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 12:58 AM 8/3/2009, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Cowie,
>>>>> Several years ago I sailed with my son on our 32-footer from
>>>>> Traverse City to Charlevoix, MackinacIsland, then down to Beaver
>>>>> Island, back to Charlevoix and its long lake. I wouldn't do it on
>>>>> our Rhodes 22 because the waves can build up to 6 ft. even in the
>>>>> best weather, I suppose due to thelong fetch. I think Charlevoix
>>>>> Lake would be quite nice for your R 22, as well as maybe the two
>>>>> Traverse City Bays.
>>>>> Al Keblinskas
>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:20:56 -0700
>>>>>> From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com
>>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Michigan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have any rhodies sailed to beaver island, makinaw, north
>>>>> channell? Are these
>>>>>> areas to challengng for a r22? I live in Washington dc but have
>>>>>> spent
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> last 25 summer.vacations in charleviox mi and may eventualy
>>>>>> trailer my
>>>>>> boat
>>>>>> from the Chesapeake to michigan.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>> http://www.nabble.com/Michigan-tp24784418p24784418.html
>>>>>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list
>>>>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> _________________________________________________________________
>>>>> Get your vacation photos on your phone!
>>>>>
>>
> http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx?&OCID=0809TL-H
> M
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go
>>>>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>>>> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.41/2277 - Release Date:
>>>>> 08/02/09 05:56:00
>>>>
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
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>>>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:38:41 -0400
> From: John Lock <jlock at relevantarts.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Blue_Skies Website
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <1C3C3AFD-8464-4340-BA2F-F6995CA31C78 at relevantarts.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>
> FTP is not likely without the access codes. But wget or httrack will
> do nicely off our server.
>
> Cheers!
> John Lock
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
> Lake Sinclair, GA
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
> On Aug 3, 2009, at 15:10, David Culp wrote:
>> You may want to grab it because I think I just read that Geocities was
>> shutting down pretty soon. Be nice if you could FTP all the files
>> to one
>> location and then work on it from there at leisure.
>>
>> David
>>
>> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:07:39 -0400
>> From: "michael meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Blew_Skies website
>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Message-ID: <054401ca1465$49bcc1c0$dd364540$@com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>>
>> Yes you can :-) Ask asked him a number of year ago if we could copy
>> the site
>> and use it on Rhodes22.org because he was not updating it any more(I
>> think
>> he sold the boat), got permission, I started creating a wiki out of
>> it(since
>> lost), but could not get Ed/Bill to keep it going. I still think the
>> best
>> bet would be to wget the pages and cut them into a wiki so it can be
>> update
>> by anyone on the list and keep it living. Just remember John "no
>> good deed
>> will go unpunished". :-)
>>
>> -mjm
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Lock
>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:26 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Blew_Skies website
>>
>> Yes, it is technically possible. However, that material is all owned
>> by whoever put it together, so it is copyrighted. I can't just lift
>> it and make a copy. I don't know if the people listed on that site
>> are even still around, the geocities account for the developer no
>> longer exists. But I can send off some e-mail to see if I get a
>> response.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> John Lock
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
>> Lake Sinclair, GA
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>> On Aug 3, 2009, at 12:13, Michael D. Weisner wrote:
>>> John Lock,
>>>
>>> Is it possible to incorporate the contents of the "blew_skies" site
>>> on the
>>> www.Rhodes22.org <http://www.rhodes22.org/>? It seems that there
>>> is so
>> much wonderful
>>> information
>>> there. Who owns or maintains the account? I know that there is a
>>> link from
>>> Rhodes22.org in the R22/FAQ section.
>>>
>>> It just seems that this wealth of information could be made more
>>> accessible.
>>> Something else to ponder in your non-existent spare time.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>>
>>>
>>> From: "Mary Lou Troy" Monday, August 03, 2009 11:38 AM
>>>> There is an account of Roger Pihlaja's trip to Garden Island and
>>>> Beaver Island in his Rhodes 22 in the old Rhodes FAQ here:
>>>> http://www.geocities.com/blew_skies/gardeni.html
>>>>
>>>> Note that Roger is a fine sailor and outdoorsman. He also used
>>>> regularly post accounts of winter camping trips with his sons.
>>>>
>>>> Mary Lou
>>>> 1991 R22 Fretless
>>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 12:58 AM 8/3/2009, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Cowie,
>>>>> Several years ago I sailed with my son on our 32-footer from
>>>>> Traverse City to Charlevoix, MackinacIsland, then down to Beaver
>>>>> Island, back to Charlevoix and its long lake. I wouldn't do it on
>>>>> our Rhodes 22 because the waves can build up to 6 ft. even in the
>>>>> best weather, I suppose due to thelong fetch. I think Charlevoix
>>>>> Lake would be quite nice for your R 22, as well as maybe the two
>>>>> Traverse City Bays.
>>>>> Al Keblinskas
>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:20:56 -0700
>>>>>> From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com
>>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Michigan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have any rhodies sailed to beaver island, makinaw, north
>>>>> channell? Are these
>>>>>> areas to challengng for a r22? I live in Washington dc but have
>>>>>> spent
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> last 25 summer.vacations in charleviox mi and may eventualy
>>>>>> trailer my
>>>>>> boat
>>>>>> from the Chesapeake to michigan.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>> http://www.nabble.com/Michigan-tp24784418p24784418.html
>>>>>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list
>>>>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> _________________________________________________________________
>>>>> Get your vacation photos on your phone!
>>>>>
>>
> http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx?&OCID=0809TL-H
> M
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>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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>>>>> 08/02/09 05:56:00
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:40:58 -0700
> From: David Bradley <dwbrad at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Seattle Seafair Turns 60
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
> <5c154df70908031240o468c64ccva6bee14b76049cfc at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Each summer Seattle gets a bit of a pirate thing going and has a
> summer celebration on the water, beginning with Fleet Week and ending
> with a weekend of performances by the US Navy's Blue Angels. In the
> middle of all this is a melee of boats in the highest-boats-per-capita
> city in the country watching hydro races and generally getting
> despicably drunk. The attached shows a picture from the shore of an
> awesome fly-by that a camera can't do justice to and the log boom off
> in the distance.
>
> It's a great experience, and if your summer plans ever allow for it
> it's a great time to visit Seattle.
>
> Dave
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>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:10:15 -0400
> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Blue_Skies Website
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <0A6F5B7A39E74CA7870C6C4C2D5866AE at ebsoffice>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed"; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type="original"
>
> John & MJM,
>
> Thanks for looking out for "da list."
>
> John, let me know if you are successful with httrack from your IP. If
> geocities starts to limit or complain, I can pick up some of the files
> from
> another IP and subsequently give you access to the files on one of my
> servers.
>
> Once we have the content and a plan for integration into
> www.Rhodes22.org, I
> will make time to help reformat the material, if needed.
>
> Mike
> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
> From: "John Lock" Monday, August 03, 2009 3:38 PM
>> FTP is not likely without the access codes. But wget or httrack will
>> do nicely off our server.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> John Lock
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
>> Lake Sinclair, GA
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>> On Aug 3, 2009, at 15:10, David Culp wrote:
>>> You may want to grab it because I think I just read that Geocities
> was
>>> shutting down pretty soon. Be nice if you could FTP all the files
>>> to one
>>> location and then work on it from there at leisure.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:07:39 -0400
>>> From: "michael meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Blew_Skies website
>>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Message-ID: <054401ca1465$49bcc1c0$dd364540$@com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>>>
>>> Yes you can :-) Ask asked him a number of year ago if we could copy
>>> the site
>>> and use it on Rhodes22.org because he was not updating it any more(I
>>> think
>>> he sold the boat), got permission, I started creating a wiki out of
>>> it(since
>>> lost), but could not get Ed/Bill to keep it going. I still think the
>>> best
>>> bet would be to wget the pages and cut them into a wiki so it can be
>>> update
>>> by anyone on the list and keep it living. Just remember John "no
>>> good deed
>>> will go unpunished". :-)
>>>
>>> -mjm
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Lock
>>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:26 PM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Blew_Skies website
>>>
>>> Yes, it is technically possible. However, that material is all owned
>>> by whoever put it together, so it is copyrighted. I can't just lift
>>> it and make a copy. I don't know if the people listed on that site
>>> are even still around, the geocities account for the developer no
>>> longer exists. But I can send off some e-mail to see if I get a
>>> response.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> John Lock
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
>>> Lake Sinclair, GA
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 3, 2009, at 12:13, Michael D. Weisner wrote:
>>>> John Lock,
>>>>
>>>> Is it possible to incorporate the contents of the "blew_skies" site
>>>> on the
>>>> www.Rhodes22.org <http://www.rhodes22.org/>? It seems that there
>>>> is so
>>> much wonderful
>>>> information
>>>> there. Who owns or maintains the account? I know that there is a
>>>> link from
>>>> Rhodes22.org in the R22/FAQ section.
>>>>
>>>> It just seems that this wealth of information could be made more
>>>> accessible.
>>>> Something else to ponder in your non-existent spare time.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: "Mary Lou Troy" Monday, August 03, 2009 11:38 AM
>>>>> There is an account of Roger Pihlaja's trip to Garden Island and
>>>>> Beaver Island in his Rhodes 22 in the old Rhodes FAQ here:
>>>>> http://www.geocities.com/blew_skies/gardeni.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Note that Roger is a fine sailor and outdoorsman. He also used
>>>>> regularly post accounts of winter camping trips with his sons.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mary Lou
>>>>> 1991 R22 Fretless
>>>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> At 12:58 AM 8/3/2009, you wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Cowie,
>>>>>> Several years ago I sailed with my son on our 32-footer from
>>>>>> Traverse City to Charlevoix, MackinacIsland, then down to Beaver
>>>>>> Island, back to Charlevoix and its long lake. I wouldn't do it on
>>>>>> our Rhodes 22 because the waves can build up to 6 ft. even in the
>>>>>> best weather, I suppose due to thelong fetch. I think Charlevoix
>>>>>> Lake would be quite nice for your R 22, as well as maybe the two
>>>>>> Traverse City Bays.
>>>>>> Al Keblinskas
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:20:56 -0700
>>>>>>> From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com
>>>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Michigan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have any rhodies sailed to beaver island, makinaw, north
>>>>>> channell? Are these
>>>>>>> areas to challengng for a r22? I live in Washington dc but have
>>>>>>> spent
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> last 25 summer.vacations in charleviox mi and may eventualy
>>>>>>> trailer my
>>>>>>> boat
>>>>>>> from the Chesapeake to michigan.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>>> http://www.nabble.com/Michigan-tp24784418p24784418.html
>>>>>>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list
>>>>>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________
>>>>>> Get your vacation photos on your phone!
>>>>>>
>>>
> http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx?&OCID=0809TL-H
> M
>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list
> go
>>>>>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>>>>> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.41/2277 - Release Date:
>>>>>> 08/02/09 05:56:00
>>>>>
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>>
>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and
>>>>> archives go
>>>>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
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>>
>> __________________________________________________
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> go
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>> __________________________________________________
>>
>>
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:54:32 -0400
> From: "Ron Singerman" <sail at tds.net>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] AC panel?
> To: "Rhodes list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <1DC8407D9EB74932AB20AF3BEB3A07B9 at computer>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Chris,
>
> This is a picture of my panel area. The voltmeter toggle is on the DC
> panel labeled charger. I do not have the 30 amp switch that you have.
> Judging by the size of it I would think it is a reset switch rather than
> a true breaker. I will probably install a full panel with two 15 amp
> breakers, one 20 amp and a dipole 30 amp main. This will take car of
> both my GFI outlets and I'll have a spare for when I install my charging
> unit. This is the setup that Casey recommends. Thanks for the
> information you supplied.
>
>>>ron<<
> S/V Serenity
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:19:29 -0400
> From: John Lock <jlock at relevantarts.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Blue_Skies Website
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <8EE8086E-638A-40D3-AB2A-1872A8117B25 at relevantarts.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>
> Thanks Mike! No problems pulling a copy of the blew_skies website.
> We should be OK on that front.
>
> Reformatting the content... that's another story. It's a lot of
> really old code arranged in hundreds of HTML files. Given a little
> time I can probably automate some conversion. "Convert into what?"
> you may ask... Well, a wiki program would be ideal. MediaWiki is
> free and is also the engine behind Wikipedia. Uses standard PHP/MySQL
> platform, so we should be good to go. Converting the existing HTML
> pages into MySQL data elements will be a "fun" project. There is an
> XML format described for importing to MediaWiki. A lot of text
> manipulation may give me what I need to do a straight import. More
> research is required and I will appreciate any help once I know what
> the tasks will be!
>
> Cheers!
> John Lock
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
> Lake Sinclair, GA
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> On Aug 3, 2009, at 16:10, Michael D. Weisner wrote:
>> John & MJM,
>>
>> Thanks for looking out for "da list."
>>
>> John, let me know if you are successful with httrack from your IP. If
>> geocities starts to limit or complain, I can pick up some of the
>> files from
>> another IP and subsequently give you access to the files on one of my
>> servers.
>>
>> Once we have the content and a plan for integration into
> www.Rhodes22.org
>> , I
>> will make time to help reformat the material, if needed.
>>
>> Mike
>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>
>> From: "John Lock" Monday, August 03, 2009 3:38 PM
>>> FTP is not likely without the access codes. But wget or httrack will
>>> do nicely off our server.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> John Lock
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
>>> Lake Sinclair, GA
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 3, 2009, at 15:10, David Culp wrote:
>>>> You may want to grab it because I think I just read that Geocities
>>>> was
>>>> shutting down pretty soon. Be nice if you could FTP all the files
>>>> to one
>>>> location and then work on it from there at leisure.
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:07:39 -0400
>>>> From: "michael meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Blew_Skies website
>>>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Message-ID: <054401ca1465$49bcc1c0$dd364540$@com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>>>>
>>>> Yes you can :-) Ask asked him a number of year ago if we could copy
>>>> the site
>>>> and use it on Rhodes22.org because he was not updating it any more(I
>>>> think
>>>> he sold the boat), got permission, I started creating a wiki out of
>>>> it(since
>>>> lost), but could not get Ed/Bill to keep it going. I still think the
>>>> best
>>>> bet would be to wget the pages and cut them into a wiki so it can be
>>>> update
>>>> by anyone on the list and keep it living. Just remember John "no
>>>> good deed
>>>> will go unpunished". :-)
>>>>
>>>> -mjm
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Lock
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:26 PM
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Blew_Skies website
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it is technically possible. However, that material is all
>>>> owned
>>>> by whoever put it together, so it is copyrighted. I can't just lift
>>>> it and make a copy. I don't know if the people listed on that site
>>>> are even still around, the geocities account for the developer no
>>>> longer exists. But I can send off some e-mail to see if I get a
>>>> response.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>> John Lock
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
>>>> Lake Sinclair, GA
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 3, 2009, at 12:13, Michael D. Weisner wrote:
>>>>> John Lock,
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it possible to incorporate the contents of the "blew_skies" site
>>>>> on the
>>>>> www.Rhodes22.org <http://www.rhodes22.org/>? It seems that there
>>>>> is so
>>>> much wonderful
>>>>> information
>>>>> there. Who owns or maintains the account? I know that there is a
>>>>> link from
>>>>> Rhodes22.org in the R22/FAQ section.
>>>>>
>>>>> It just seems that this wealth of information could be made more
>>>>> accessible.
>>>>> Something else to ponder in your non-existent spare time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>>>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "Mary Lou Troy" Monday, August 03, 2009 11:38 AM
>>>>>> There is an account of Roger Pihlaja's trip to Garden Island and
>>>>>> Beaver Island in his Rhodes 22 in the old Rhodes FAQ here:
>>>>>> http://www.geocities.com/blew_skies/gardeni.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note that Roger is a fine sailor and outdoorsman. He also used
>>>>>> regularly post accounts of winter camping trips with his sons.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mary Lou
>>>>>> 1991 R22 Fretless
>>>>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 12:58 AM 8/3/2009, you wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cowie,
>>>>>>> Several years ago I sailed with my son on our 32-footer from
>>>>>>> Traverse City to Charlevoix, MackinacIsland, then down to Beaver
>>>>>>> Island, back to Charlevoix and its long lake. I wouldn't do it on
>>>>>>> our Rhodes 22 because the waves can build up to 6 ft. even in the
>>>>>>> best weather, I suppose due to thelong fetch. I think Charlevoix
>>>>>>> Lake would be quite nice for your R 22, as well as maybe the two
>>>>>>> Traverse City Bays.
>>>>>>> Al Keblinskas
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:20:56 -0700
>>>>>>>> From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com
>>>>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Michigan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Have any rhodies sailed to beaver island, makinaw, north
>>>>>>> channell? Are these
>>>>>>>> areas to challengng for a r22? I live in Washington dc but have
>>>>>>>> spent
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> last 25 summer.vacations in charleviox mi and may eventualy
>>>>>>>> trailer my
>>>>>>>> boat
>>>>>>>> from the Chesapeake to michigan.
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>>>> http://www.nabble.com/Michigan-tp24784418p24784418.html
>>>>>>>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list
>>>>>>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________
>>>>>>> Get your vacation photos on your phone!
>>>>>>>
>>>>
> http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx?&OCID=0809TL-H
> M
>>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing
>>>>>>> list go
>>>>>>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>>>>>> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.41/2277 - Release Date:
>>>>>>> 08/02/09 05:56:00
>>>>>>
>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and
>>>>>> archives go
>>>>>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>> We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam.
>>>>> SPAMfighter has removed 2455 of my spam emails to date.
>>>>> Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>>
>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and
>>>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> __________________________________________________
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>>>>
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>>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:26:54 EDT
> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cracks in Cement Ballast
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Message-ID: <cb1.48cf1b60.37a8b01e at aol.com>
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> Ed and John,
> Cracks in the ballast may or may not be a problem. I would explore
> further
> on the outside of the centerboard trunk looking for any cracks in the
> glass
> or delamination. I would use something to tap on the hull looking for
> voids which will make a much different sound.
> If the boat is a northern boat (you didn't say where it was located) it
>
> might be an indication of frost freeze cycles. OR, it could be nothing
> at all.
> If you have a friend or know someone that knows a lot about boats, you
> might ask for help. Also, depending where you and the boat are located,
> you
> might get a local Rhodie to help with the inspection.
>
> Rummy
>
>
> In a message dated 8/3/2009 8:29:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> jsbudda at verizon.net writes:
>
>
> Hi Ed,
>
> The boat you're looking at may or may not be repairable depending on
> the
> type and extent of the damage. Does the boat currently float? As always
> pictures can help in damage assesment.
>
> Glad ta meet ya!
>
> John Shulick
> s/v Delilah (71)
>
>
> Edward-58 wrote:
>>
>> Hi All:
>> I recently found a 1983 R22 for sale that I was told that under the
>> floor boards the cement ballast had cracks in it.
>> How and why does this happen? Is it a common occurrence, even in
> newer
>> boats?
>> Should it be sailed as is, or has this become a project boat?
>> If it's a project boat, what would be involved in repairing it?
>> Thanks in advance for the info.
>> Ed
>>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:27:52 EDT
> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cracks in Cement Ballast
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> Joe,
> Don't tell me you aren't wearing your MJM decoder ring?
>
> Rummy
>
>
> In a message dated 8/3/2009 8:39:05 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> joe.babb at comcast.net writes:
>
> Hi Michael,
> Just curious. What is sand mixed ploy?
> Thanks,
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> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:30:23 -0700 (PDT)
> From: cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Blue_Skies Website
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Message-ID: <24798527.post at talk.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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>
> I always access the Rhodes 22 forum from nabble.com. the rhodes22.org
> that
> includes a link to geocities.com appears to be pretty out of date
> information, without recent updates. I like the graphic format of
> rhodes22.com and geocities however I realize these take time and
> commitment
> from volunteers to keep up to date. I have a small architectural firm
> and
> we publish many of our graphic presentations on hosted web pages. I
> think
> my guys use flash to prepare the computer graphics. Let me know if we
> can
> be of any help or assistance in keeping any of the rhodes sites up to
> date.
>
>
>
> David Culp-3 wrote:
>>
>> You may want to grab it because I think I just read that Geocities was
>> shutting down pretty soon. Be nice if you could FTP all the files to
> one
>> location and then work on it from there at leisure.
>>
>> David
>>
>> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:07:39 -0400
>> From: "michael meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Blew_Skies website
>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Message-ID: <054401ca1465$49bcc1c0$dd364540$@com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>>
>> Yes you can :-) Ask asked him a number of year ago if we could copy
> the
>> site
>> and use it on Rhodes22.org because he was not updating it any more(I
> think
>> he sold the boat), got permission, I started creating a wiki out of
>> it(since
>> lost), but could not get Ed/Bill to keep it going. I still think the
> best
>> bet would be to wget the pages and cut them into a wiki so it can be
>> update
>> by anyone on the list and keep it living. Just remember John "no good
> deed
>> will go unpunished". :-)
>>
>> -mjm
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Lock
>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:26 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Blew_Skies website
>>
>> Yes, it is technically possible. However, that material is all owned
>> by whoever put it together, so it is copyrighted. I can't just lift
>> it and make a copy. I don't know if the people listed on that site
>> are even still around, the geocities account for the developer no
>> longer exists. But I can send off some e-mail to see if I get a
>> response.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> John Lock
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
>> Lake Sinclair, GA
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>> On Aug 3, 2009, at 12:13, Michael D. Weisner wrote:
>>> John Lock,
>>>
>>> Is it possible to incorporate the contents of the "blew_skies" site
>>> on the
>>> www.Rhodes22.org <http://www.rhodes22.org/>? It seems that there is
> so
>> much wonderful
>>> information
>>> there. Who owns or maintains the account? I know that there is a
>>> link from
>>> Rhodes22.org in the R22/FAQ section.
>>>
>>> It just seems that this wealth of information could be made more
>>> accessible.
>>> Something else to ponder in your non-existent spare time.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>>
>>>
>>> From: "Mary Lou Troy" Monday, August 03, 2009 11:38 AM
>>>> There is an account of Roger Pihlaja's trip to Garden Island and
>>>> Beaver Island in his Rhodes 22 in the old Rhodes FAQ here:
>>>> http://www.geocities.com/blew_skies/gardeni.html
>>>>
>>>> Note that Roger is a fine sailor and outdoorsman. He also used
>>>> regularly post accounts of winter camping trips with his sons.
>>>>
>>>> Mary Lou
>>>> 1991 R22 Fretless
>>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 12:58 AM 8/3/2009, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Cowie,
>>>>> Several years ago I sailed with my son on our 32-footer from
>>>>> Traverse City to Charlevoix, MackinacIsland, then down to Beaver
>>>>> Island, back to Charlevoix and its long lake. I wouldn't do it on
>>>>> our Rhodes 22 because the waves can build up to 6 ft. even in the
>>>>> best weather, I suppose due to thelong fetch. I think Charlevoix
>>>>> Lake would be quite nice for your R 22, as well as maybe the two
>>>>> Traverse City Bays.
>>>>> Al Keblinskas
>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:20:56 -0700
>>>>>> From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com
>>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Michigan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have any rhodies sailed to beaver island, makinaw, north
>>>>> channell? Are these
>>>>>> areas to challengng for a r22? I live in Washington dc but have
>>>>>> spent
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> last 25 summer.vacations in charleviox mi and may eventualy
>>>>>> trailer my
>>>>>> boat
>>>>>> from the Chesapeake to michigan.
>>>>>> --
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>>>>> http://www.nabble.com/Michigan-tp24784418p24784418.html
>>>>>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>>>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:35:48 -0400
> From: "michael meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Blue_Skies Website
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <057601ca1482$5dfe95b0$19fbc110$@com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Maybe it would be simpler just do a "cut and paste special" into a wiki
> based on the top of the current tree, I take a section if that helps.
>
> -mjm
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Lock
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 5:19 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Blue_Skies Website
>
> Thanks Mike! No problems pulling a copy of the blew_skies website.
> We should be OK on that front.
>
> Reformatting the content... that's another story. It's a lot of
> really old code arranged in hundreds of HTML files. Given a little
> time I can probably automate some conversion. "Convert into what?"
> you may ask... Well, a wiki program would be ideal. MediaWiki is
> free and is also the engine behind Wikipedia. Uses standard PHP/MySQL
> platform, so we should be good to go. Converting the existing HTML
> pages into MySQL data elements will be a "fun" project. There is an
> XML format described for importing to MediaWiki. A lot of text
> manipulation may give me what I need to do a straight import. More
> research is required and I will appreciate any help once I know what
> the tasks will be!
>
> Cheers!
> John Lock
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
> Lake Sinclair, GA
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> On Aug 3, 2009, at 16:10, Michael D. Weisner wrote:
>> John & MJM,
>>
>> Thanks for looking out for "da list."
>>
>> John, let me know if you are successful with httrack from your IP. If
>> geocities starts to limit or complain, I can pick up some of the
>> files from
>> another IP and subsequently give you access to the files on one of my
>> servers.
>>
>> Once we have the content and a plan for integration into
> www.Rhodes22.org
>> , I
>> will make time to help reformat the material, if needed.
>>
>> Mike
>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>
>> From: "John Lock" Monday, August 03, 2009 3:38 PM
>>> FTP is not likely without the access codes. But wget or httrack will
>>> do nicely off our server.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> John Lock
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
>>> Lake Sinclair, GA
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 3, 2009, at 15:10, David Culp wrote:
>>>> You may want to grab it because I think I just read that Geocities
>>>> was
>>>> shutting down pretty soon. Be nice if you could FTP all the files
>>>> to one
>>>> location and then work on it from there at leisure.
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:07:39 -0400
>>>> From: "michael meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Blew_Skies website
>>>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Message-ID: <054401ca1465$49bcc1c0$dd364540$@com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>>>>
>>>> Yes you can :-) Ask asked him a number of year ago if we could copy
>>>> the site
>>>> and use it on Rhodes22.org because he was not updating it any more(I
>>>> think
>>>> he sold the boat), got permission, I started creating a wiki out of
>>>> it(since
>>>> lost), but could not get Ed/Bill to keep it going. I still think the
>>>> best
>>>> bet would be to wget the pages and cut them into a wiki so it can be
>>>> update
>>>> by anyone on the list and keep it living. Just remember John "no
>>>> good deed
>>>> will go unpunished". :-)
>>>>
>>>> -mjm
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Lock
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:26 PM
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Blew_Skies website
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it is technically possible. However, that material is all
>>>> owned
>>>> by whoever put it together, so it is copyrighted. I can't just lift
>>>> it and make a copy. I don't know if the people listed on that site
>>>> are even still around, the geocities account for the developer no
>>>> longer exists. But I can send off some e-mail to see if I get a
>>>> response.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>> John Lock
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
>>>> Lake Sinclair, GA
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 3, 2009, at 12:13, Michael D. Weisner wrote:
>>>>> John Lock,
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it possible to incorporate the contents of the "blew_skies" site
>>>>> on the
>>>>> www.Rhodes22.org <http://www.rhodes22.org/>? It seems that there
>>>>> is so
>>>> much wonderful
>>>>> information
>>>>> there. Who owns or maintains the account? I know that there is a
>>>>> link from
>>>>> Rhodes22.org in the R22/FAQ section.
>>>>>
>>>>> It just seems that this wealth of information could be made more
>>>>> accessible.
>>>>> Something else to ponder in your non-existent spare time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>>>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "Mary Lou Troy" Monday, August 03, 2009 11:38 AM
>>>>>> There is an account of Roger Pihlaja's trip to Garden Island and
>>>>>> Beaver Island in his Rhodes 22 in the old Rhodes FAQ here:
>>>>>> http://www.geocities.com/blew_skies/gardeni.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note that Roger is a fine sailor and outdoorsman. He also used
>>>>>> regularly post accounts of winter camping trips with his sons.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mary Lou
>>>>>> 1991 R22 Fretless
>>>>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 12:58 AM 8/3/2009, you wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cowie,
>>>>>>> Several years ago I sailed with my son on our 32-footer from
>>>>>>> Traverse City to Charlevoix, MackinacIsland, then down to Beaver
>>>>>>> Island, back to Charlevoix and its long lake. I wouldn't do it on
>>>>>>> our Rhodes 22 because the waves can build up to 6 ft. even in the
>>>>>>> best weather, I suppose due to thelong fetch. I think Charlevoix
>>>>>>> Lake would be quite nice for your R 22, as well as maybe the two
>>>>>>> Traverse City Bays.
>>>>>>> Al Keblinskas
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:20:56 -0700
>>>>>>>> From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com
>>>>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Michigan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Have any rhodies sailed to beaver island, makinaw, north
>>>>>>> channell? Are these
>>>>>>>> areas to challengng for a r22? I live in Washington dc but have
>>>>>>>> spent
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> last 25 summer.vacations in charleviox mi and may eventualy
>>>>>>>> trailer my
>>>>>>>> boat
>>>>>>>> from the Chesapeake to michigan.
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>>>> http://www.nabble.com/Michigan-tp24784418p24784418.html
>>>>>>>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list
>>>>>>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________
>>>>>>> Get your vacation photos on your phone!
>>>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>>>> list go
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> Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:58:58 -0400
> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Blue_Skies Website
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <0D6D8ACC6E954B9EA93BE24F7054B07D at ebsoffice>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed"; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type="original"
>
> I also use the nabble interface, mostly for searches, since the
> "advanced
> search" format is quick and easy. Please note that nabble was not on
> the
> distribution list for "da list" in the early days so searches for
> material
> prior to '05 or so must be performed by google using "site:rhodes22.org"
> as
> a search modifier (in the search box, without the quotes.) Even so,
> without
> importing the blew_skies content, searches of even rhodes22.org may not
> turn
> up all relevant info.
>
> Mike
> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
> From: "cowie" Monday, August 03, 2009 5:30 PM
>>
>> I always access the Rhodes 22 forum from nabble.com. the rhodes22.org
>
>> that
>> includes a link to geocities.com appears to be pretty out of date
>> information, without recent updates. I like the graphic format of
>> rhodes22.com and geocities however I realize these take time and
>> commitment
>> from volunteers to keep up to date. I have a small architectural firm
> and
>> we publish many of our graphic presentations on hosted web pages. I
>> think
>> my guys use flash to prepare the computer graphics. Let me know if we
> can
>> be of any help or assistance in keeping any of the rhodes sites up to
>> date.
>>
>>
>>
>> David Culp-3 wrote:
>>>
>>> You may want to grab it because I think I just read that Geocities
> was
>>> shutting down pretty soon. Be nice if you could FTP all the files to
> one
>>> location and then work on it from there at leisure.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:07:39 -0400
>>> From: "michael meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Blew_Skies website
>>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Message-ID: <054401ca1465$49bcc1c0$dd364540$@com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>>>
>>> Yes you can :-) Ask asked him a number of year ago if we could copy
> the
>>> site
>>> and use it on Rhodes22.org because he was not updating it any more(I
>>> think
>>> he sold the boat), got permission, I started creating a wiki out of
>>> it(since
>>> lost), but could not get Ed/Bill to keep it going. I still think the
> best
>>> bet would be to wget the pages and cut them into a wiki so it can be
>>> update
>>> by anyone on the list and keep it living. Just remember John "no good
>
>>> deed
>>> will go unpunished". :-)
>>>
>>> -mjm
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Lock
>>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:26 PM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Blew_Skies website
>>>
>>> Yes, it is technically possible. However, that material is all owned
>>> by whoever put it together, so it is copyrighted. I can't just lift
>>> it and make a copy. I don't know if the people listed on that site
>>> are even still around, the geocities account for the developer no
>>> longer exists. But I can send off some e-mail to see if I get a
>>> response.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> John Lock
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
>>> Lake Sinclair, GA
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 3, 2009, at 12:13, Michael D. Weisner wrote:
>>>> John Lock,
>>>>
>>>> Is it possible to incorporate the contents of the "blew_skies" site
>>>> on the
>>>> www.Rhodes22.org <http://www.rhodes22.org/>? It seems that there is
> so
>>> much wonderful
>>>> information
>>>> there. Who owns or maintains the account? I know that there is a
>>>> link from
>>>> Rhodes22.org in the R22/FAQ section.
>>>>
>>>> It just seems that this wealth of information could be made more
>>>> accessible.
>>>> Something else to ponder in your non-existent spare time.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: "Mary Lou Troy" Monday, August 03, 2009 11:38 AM
>>>>> There is an account of Roger Pihlaja's trip to Garden Island and
>>>>> Beaver Island in his Rhodes 22 in the old Rhodes FAQ here:
>>>>> http://www.geocities.com/blew_skies/gardeni.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Note that Roger is a fine sailor and outdoorsman. He also used
>>>>> regularly post accounts of winter camping trips with his sons.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mary Lou
>>>>> 1991 R22 Fretless
>>>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> At 12:58 AM 8/3/2009, you wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Cowie,
>>>>>> Several years ago I sailed with my son on our 32-footer from
>>>>>> Traverse City to Charlevoix, MackinacIsland, then down to Beaver
>>>>>> Island, back to Charlevoix and its long lake. I wouldn't do it on
>>>>>> our Rhodes 22 because the waves can build up to 6 ft. even in the
>>>>>> best weather, I suppose due to thelong fetch. I think Charlevoix
>>>>>> Lake would be quite nice for your R 22, as well as maybe the two
>>>>>> Traverse City Bays.
>>>>>> Al Keblinskas
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:20:56 -0700
>>>>>>> From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com
>>>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Michigan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have any rhodies sailed to beaver island, makinaw, north
>>>>>> channell? Are these
>>>>>>> areas to challengng for a r22? I live in Washington dc but have
>>>>>>> spent
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> last 25 summer.vacations in charleviox mi and may eventualy
>>>>>>> trailer my
>>>>>>> boat
>>>>>>> from the Chesapeake to michigan.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>>> http://www.nabble.com/Michigan-tp24784418p24784418.html
>>>>>>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> __________________________________________________
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________
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>>>>>>
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> M
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> Message: 14
> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:01:06 -0700 (PDT)
> From: cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Michigan
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Message-ID: <24798931.post at talk.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> Mary Lou:
>
> Thank you for the link to Roger's account. I enjoyed reading his story.
> I
> agree with Al that the Rhodes 22 is probably better suited for Lake
> Charlevoix rather than the extreme weather that can be encountered on
> Lake
> Michigan.
>
> I notice that Roger notes the bildge had about 5 gallons of water mostly
> from his neglect to close the vent on his fresh water tank. Is this a
> common practice, to close the fresh water vent? I think my holding tank
> and
> fresh water tank both vent to the outside so this shouldn't be a
> problem?
> Maybe Roger has a different set up?
>
>
>
> Mary Lou Troy-2 wrote:
>>
>> There is an account of Roger Pihlaja's trip to Garden Island and
>> Beaver Island in his Rhodes 22 in the old Rhodes FAQ here:
>> http://www.geocities.com/blew_skies/gardeni.html
>>
>> Note that Roger is a fine sailor and outdoorsman. He also used
>> regularly post accounts of winter camping trips with his sons.
>>
>> Mary Lou
>> 1991 R22 Fretless
>> Rock Hall, MD
>>
>>
>> At 12:58 AM 8/3/2009, you wrote:
>>
>>>Cowie,
>>>Several years ago I sailed with my son on our 32-footer from
>>>Traverse City to Charlevoix, MackinacIsland, then down to Beaver
>>>Island, back to Charlevoix and its long lake. I wouldn't do it on
>>>our Rhodes 22 because the waves can build up to 6 ft. even in the
>>>best weather, I suppose due to thelong fetch. I think Charlevoix
>>>Lake would be quite nice for your R 22, as well as maybe the two
>>>Traverse City Bays.
>>>Al Keblinskas
>>>
>>> > Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:20:56 -0700
>>> > From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com
>>> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Michigan
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Have any rhodies sailed to beaver island, makinaw, north
>>> channell? Are these
>>> > areas to challengng for a r22? I live in Washington dc but have
> spent
>>> the
>>> > last 25 summer.vacations in charleviox mi and may eventualy trailer
> my
>>> boat
>>> > from the Chesapeake to michigan.
>>> > --
>>> > View this message in context:
>>> http://www.nabble.com/Michigan-tp24784418p24784418.html
>>> > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>> >
>>> > __________________________________________________
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>>>
>>>_________________________________________________________________
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>>>http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx?&OCID=0809TL
> -HM
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:11:27 -0700 (PDT)
> From: cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Portable Butane Stove Question
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Message-ID: <24799061.post at talk.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> Jim:
>
> Stan provided the same stove, single burner bright spark, model BS 100
> on my
> new R22 2009. I purchased a disposable butane canister from West
> Marine,
> link below, and it works fine. $5.99 each. The canister engages with
> the
> lever and the burner grill will not properly seat unless the canister is
> disengaged after use, nice safety feature to make sure gas doesn't leak
> out
> between uses. The stove burner works great and heats up water much
> faster
> than typical gas flame.
>
> http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1/10
> 001/26614/377%20710/0/butane/Primary%20Search/mode%20matchallpartial/0/0
> ?N=377%20710&Ne=0&Ntt=butane&Ntk=Primary%20Search&Ntx=mode%20matchallpar
> tial&Nao=0&Ns=0&keyword=butane&isLTokenURL=true&storeNum=5004&subdeptNum
> =15&classNum=590
>
>
>
> jimjim02 wrote:
>>
>> Hi Everyone
>> I have a question regarding Butane Fuel Cartridges. I have a '91
> recycled
>> rhodes I purchased from Stan last year. We are getting ready to have
> our
>> first sleepover on the boat. I have a question regarding Butane Fuel
>> Cartridges/cans.
>>
>> It appears that GB has used different types of butane fuel stoves for
> the
>> Rhodes and I wanted to see how much difference they are. The one I
> have
>> installed on my Rhodes is the Bright Spark BS100 - single burner which
> is
>> actually built in England. They mention on the website
>> (http://www.brightspark.info/?page=listing&id=53) that you should only
> use
>> there Non-refillable Butane gas cartridges.
>>
>> Which can only be bought in the UK - there are other types of stoves
>> available for sale in the U.S. which look exactly the same as the
> Bright
>> Spark stove.
>>
>> The question I have is can I use different brands butane fuel
> cartridges -
>> something I can buy from Amazon.com or a retailer in the U.S.
>>
>> Is there a standard way the butane fuel cartridges install to the
> stove -
>> are all the stoves pretty much the same so you don't have to use other
>> types of fuel cartridges?
>>
>> Thanks for your help on this
>> Jim
>>
>
> --
> View this message in context:
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:18:20 -0700 (PDT)
> From: cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] AC panel?
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Message-ID: <24799144.post at talk.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> Ron:
>
> I agree that the switch I have is probably just a reset. I see that you
> have a voltmeter. I have been looking at the xantrex linkLITE meter,
> kind
> of pricey but has some nice features. $349 at west marine. Let me know
> if
> you install the charger and how it goes.
>
> http://www.xantrex.com/web/id/273/p/1/pt/5/product.asp
>
>
>
> Ron Singerman-2 wrote:
>>
>> Chris,
>>
>> This is a picture of my panel area. The voltmeter toggle is on the DC
>> panel labeled charger. I do not have the 30 amp switch that you have.
>
>> Judging by the size of it I would think it is a reset switch rather
> than a
>> true breaker. I will probably install a full panel with two 15 amp
>> breakers, one 20 amp and a dipole 30 amp main. This will take car of
> both
>> my GFI outlets and I'll have a spare for when I install my charging
> unit.
>> This is the setup that Casey recommends. Thanks for the information
> you
>> supplied.
>>
>>>>ron<<
>> S/V Serenity
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:33:23 -0700 (PDT)
> From: cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Blue_Skies Website
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Message-ID: <24799321.post at talk.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> Michael:
>
> Thanks for the info. So do you log onto nabble.com in order to view
> forum
> discussions and then use google advanced search with site:rhodes22.org
> as
> the site to search?
>
>
>
> R22MikeW wrote:
>>
>> I also use the nabble interface, mostly for searches, since the
> "advanced
>> search" format is quick and easy. Please note that nabble was not on
> the
>> distribution list for "da list" in the early days so searches for
> material
>> prior to '05 or so must be performed by google using
> "site:rhodes22.org"
>> as
>> a search modifier (in the search box, without the quotes.) Even so,
>> without
>> importing the blew_skies content, searches of even rhodes22.org may
> not
>> turn
>> up all relevant info.
>>
>> Mike
>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>
>> From: "cowie" Monday, August 03, 2009 5:30 PM
>>>
>>> I always access the Rhodes 22 forum from nabble.com. the
> rhodes22.org
>>> that
>>> includes a link to geocities.com appears to be pretty out of date
>>> information, without recent updates. I like the graphic format of
>>> rhodes22.com and geocities however I realize these take time and
>>> commitment
>>> from volunteers to keep up to date. I have a small architectural
> firm
>>> and
>>> we publish many of our graphic presentations on hosted web pages. I
>
>>> think
>>> my guys use flash to prepare the computer graphics. Let me know if
> we
>>> can
>>> be of any help or assistance in keeping any of the rhodes sites up to
>
>>> date.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> David Culp-3 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You may want to grab it because I think I just read that Geocities
> was
>>>> shutting down pretty soon. Be nice if you could FTP all the files
> to
>>>> one
>>>> location and then work on it from there at leisure.
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:07:39 -0400
>>>> From: "michael meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Blew_Skies website
>>>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Message-ID: <054401ca1465$49bcc1c0$dd364540$@com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>>>>
>>>> Yes you can :-) Ask asked him a number of year ago if we could copy
> the
>>>> site
>>>> and use it on Rhodes22.org because he was not updating it any more(I
>
>>>> think
>>>> he sold the boat), got permission, I started creating a wiki out of
>>>> it(since
>>>> lost), but could not get Ed/Bill to keep it going. I still think the
>>>> best
>>>> bet would be to wget the pages and cut them into a wiki so it can be
>>>> update
>>>> by anyone on the list and keep it living. Just remember John "no
> good
>>>> deed
>>>> will go unpunished". :-)
>>>>
>>>> -mjm
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Lock
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:26 PM
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Blew_Skies website
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it is technically possible. However, that material is all
> owned
>>>> by whoever put it together, so it is copyrighted. I can't just lift
>>>> it and make a copy. I don't know if the people listed on that site
>>>> are even still around, the geocities account for the developer no
>>>> longer exists. But I can send off some e-mail to see if I get a
>>>> response.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>> John Lock
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
>>>> Lake Sinclair, GA
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 3, 2009, at 12:13, Michael D. Weisner wrote:
>>>>> John Lock,
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it possible to incorporate the contents of the "blew_skies" site
>>>>> on the
>>>>> www.Rhodes22.org <http://www.rhodes22.org/>? It seems that there
> is so
>>>> much wonderful
>>>>> information
>>>>> there. Who owns or maintains the account? I know that there is a
>>>>> link from
>>>>> Rhodes22.org in the R22/FAQ section.
>>>>>
>>>>> It just seems that this wealth of information could be made more
>>>>> accessible.
>>>>> Something else to ponder in your non-existent spare time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>>>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "Mary Lou Troy" Monday, August 03, 2009 11:38 AM
>>>>>> There is an account of Roger Pihlaja's trip to Garden Island and
>>>>>> Beaver Island in his Rhodes 22 in the old Rhodes FAQ here:
>>>>>> http://www.geocities.com/blew_skies/gardeni.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note that Roger is a fine sailor and outdoorsman. He also used
>>>>>> regularly post accounts of winter camping trips with his sons.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mary Lou
>>>>>> 1991 R22 Fretless
>>>>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 12:58 AM 8/3/2009, you wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cowie,
>>>>>>> Several years ago I sailed with my son on our 32-footer from
>>>>>>> Traverse City to Charlevoix, MackinacIsland, then down to Beaver
>>>>>>> Island, back to Charlevoix and its long lake. I wouldn't do it on
>>>>>>> our Rhodes 22 because the waves can build up to 6 ft. even in the
>>>>>>> best weather, I suppose due to thelong fetch. I think Charlevoix
>>>>>>> Lake would be quite nice for your R 22, as well as maybe the two
>>>>>>> Traverse City Bays.
>>>>>>> Al Keblinskas
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:20:56 -0700
>>>>>>>> From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com
>>>>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Michigan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Have any rhodies sailed to beaver island, makinaw, north
>>>>>>> channell? Are these
>>>>>>>> areas to challengng for a r22? I live in Washington dc but have
>>>>>>>> spent
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> last 25 summer.vacations in charleviox mi and may eventualy
>>>>>>>> trailer my
>>>>>>>> boat
>>>>>>>> from the Chesapeake to michigan.
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>>>> http://www.nabble.com/Michigan-tp24784418p24784418.html
>>>>>>>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> __________________________________________________
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>>>>>>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________
>>>>>>> Get your vacation photos on your phone!
>>>>>>>
>>>>
> http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx?&OCID=0809TL-H
> M
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> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 18:59:12 -0400
> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Searching archives
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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> Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed"; charset="iso-8859-1";
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>
> Well, not quite.
>
> I view discussions and reply via Outlook email client.
>
> If I am looking for a post, I use nabble Advanced Search first:
> http://www.nabble.com/forum/AdvSearch.jtp?query=2005&local=y&forum=14229
>
> If I can't find what I am looking for, I will use google to search using
> the
> site modifier as follows:
>
> 1. goto www.google.com
> 2. enter in the search box, for example:
> site:rhodes22.org UPS sail
> 3. look through results (http://tinyurl.com/5m58d5):
>
> Tom Deliberto's UPS Sail
> UPS Sail Color Test Template (500+ KB) - this is just an
> uncolored
> bitmap of the sail from the order form. Download it and
> apply
> the RGB
> values from the ...
> www.rhodes22.org/upssail/index.html - Cached - Similar -
>
> [Rhodes22-list] more on the UPS sail
> I'm interested in the UPS sail as well. I live in central
> Wis
> and have my
> boat on Lake Wissota in Chippewa County. Dennis Anderson
> -----Original ...
> www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/.../004625.html -
> Cached - Similar
>
> (you get the idea ...)
>
>
> Mike
> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
>
> From: "cowie" Monday, August 03, 2009 6:33 PM
>>
>> Michael:
>>
>> Thanks for the info. So do you log onto nabble.com in order to view
> forum
>> discussions and then use google advanced search with site:rhodes22.org
> as
>> the site to search?
>>
>>
>>
>> R22MikeW wrote:
>>>
>>> I also use the nabble interface, mostly for searches, since the
> "advanced
>>> search" format is quick and easy. Please note that nabble was not on
> the
>>> distribution list for "da list" in the early days so searches for
>>> material
>>> prior to '05 or so must be performed by google using
> "site:rhodes22.org"
>>> as
>>> a search modifier (in the search box, without the quotes.) Even so,
>>> without
>>> importing the blew_skies content, searches of even rhodes22.org may
> not
>>> turn
>>> up all relevant info.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>>
>>> From: "cowie" Monday, August 03, 2009 5:30 PM
>>>>
>>>> I always access the Rhodes 22 forum from nabble.com. the
> rhodes22.org
>>>> that
>>>> includes a link to geocities.com appears to be pretty out of date
>>>> information, without recent updates. I like the graphic format of
>>>> rhodes22.com and geocities however I realize these take time and
>>>> commitment
>>>> from volunteers to keep up to date. I have a small architectural
> firm
>>>> and
>>>> we publish many of our graphic presentations on hosted web pages.
> I
>>>> think
>>>> my guys use flash to prepare the computer graphics. Let me know if
> we
>>>> can
>>>> be of any help or assistance in keeping any of the rhodes sites up
> to
>>>> date.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> David Culp-3 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> You may want to grab it because I think I just read that Geocities
> was
>>>>> shutting down pretty soon. Be nice if you could FTP all the files
> to
>>>>> one
>>>>> location and then work on it from there at leisure.
>>>>>
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:07:39 -0400
>>>>> From: "michael meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Blew_Skies website
>>>>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Message-ID: <054401ca1465$49bcc1c0$dd364540$@com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes you can :-) Ask asked him a number of year ago if we could copy
> the
>>>>> site
>>>>> and use it on Rhodes22.org because he was not updating it any
> more(I
>>>>> think
>>>>> he sold the boat), got permission, I started creating a wiki out of
>>>>> it(since
>>>>> lost), but could not get Ed/Bill to keep it going. I still think
> the
>>>>> best
>>>>> bet would be to wget the pages and cut them into a wiki so it can
> be
>>>>> update
>>>>> by anyone on the list and keep it living. Just remember John "no
> good
>>>>> deed
>>>>> will go unpunished". :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> -mjm
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Lock
>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:26 PM
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Blew_Skies website
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, it is technically possible. However, that material is all
> owned
>>>>> by whoever put it together, so it is copyrighted. I can't just
> lift
>>>>> it and make a copy. I don't know if the people listed on that site
>>>>> are even still around, the geocities account for the developer no
>>>>> longer exists. But I can send off some e-mail to see if I get a
>>>>> response.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>> John Lock
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
>>>>> Lake Sinclair, GA
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 3, 2009, at 12:13, Michael D. Weisner wrote:
>>>>>> John Lock,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it possible to incorporate the contents of the "blew_skies"
> site
>>>>>> on the
>>>>>> www.Rhodes22.org <http://www.rhodes22.org/>? It seems that there
> is
>>>>>> so
>>>>> much wonderful
>>>>>> information
>>>>>> there. Who owns or maintains the account? I know that there is a
>>>>>> link from
>>>>>> Rhodes22.org in the R22/FAQ section.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It just seems that this wealth of information could be made more
>>>>>> accessible.
>>>>>> Something else to ponder in your non-existent spare time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>>>>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: "Mary Lou Troy" Monday, August 03, 2009 11:38 AM
>>>>>>> There is an account of Roger Pihlaja's trip to Garden Island and
>>>>>>> Beaver Island in his Rhodes 22 in the old Rhodes FAQ here:
>>>>>>> http://www.geocities.com/blew_skies/gardeni.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Note that Roger is a fine sailor and outdoorsman. He also used
>>>>>>> regularly post accounts of winter camping trips with his sons.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mary Lou
>>>>>>> 1991 R22 Fretless
>>>>>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At 12:58 AM 8/3/2009, you wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cowie,
>>>>>>>> Several years ago I sailed with my son on our 32-footer from
>>>>>>>> Traverse City to Charlevoix, MackinacIsland, then down to Beaver
>>>>>>>> Island, back to Charlevoix and its long lake. I wouldn't do it
> on
>>>>>>>> our Rhodes 22 because the waves can build up to 6 ft. even in
> the
>>>>>>>> best weather, I suppose due to thelong fetch. I think Charlevoix
>>>>>>>> Lake would be quite nice for your R 22, as well as maybe the two
>>>>>>>> Traverse City Bays.
>>>>>>>> Al Keblinskas
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:20:56 -0700
>>>>>>>>> From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com
>>>>>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Michigan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Have any rhodies sailed to beaver island, makinaw, north
>>>>>>>> channell? Are these
>>>>>>>>> areas to challengng for a r22? I live in Washington dc but
> have
>>>>>>>>> spent
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> last 25 summer.vacations in charleviox mi and may eventualy
>>>>>>>>> trailer my
>>>>>>>>> boat
>>>>>>>>> from the Chesapeake to michigan.
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