[Rhodes22-list] Outboard Recommendations

Ron Singerman sail at tds.net
Mon Aug 17 08:48:53 EDT 2009 

Dave,

The majority of my sailing is done out of Gulfport FL.  This summer we are 
back here in NH  and Serenity is on the hard and I am catching up on all 
those little projects on her.  We'll be returning to FL in October with a 
stop in Edenton for some minor adjustments that are beyond my pay grade.  I 
too have explored the possibility of electric power(see archived 
discussions).  At this time and for my needs I don't think boat electric 
power has developed enough to make it feasible for me.  Thanks for sharing 
your thoughts regarding ethanol.  I too have often wondered why my snow 
blower and lawn tractor have not suffered the same type of symptoms as 4 
stroke outboards despite my minimal gas maintenance.   What part of the 
northeast are you from?

Fair winds,

>>ron<<
S/V Serenity

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <david.walker5 at comcast.net>
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Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Outboard Recommendations


> Ron,
>
> Just curious. What part of the country are you. Here in the Northeast 10% 
> is all we can get.
>
> I'm not convinced that the ethanol is causing many of these OB 
> problems(other than the famous fibre glass tank issue).
>
> Back in the 80's I routine ran 10% or more recycled ethanol from my lab in 
> my BMW 2002 as an octane booster.
>
> I may have given the wrong impression about my Yamaha 9.9. Its been very 
> reliable over 10 years - never let me down. Had some hard starting due to 
> air leaks in non oem fuel connectors and now idling issues.
>
> I think a big part of the problem is that I use this motor on a SAIL boat. 
> It runs at idle 90% of the time and burns maybe 2 gallons of gas a season. 
> Power boaters and even inflatables don't seem to have the same problems.
>
> Maybe the new electric motors coupled with a good battery and a small 
> whisper quiet Honda generator would be a better solution.
>
> Dave
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Ron Singerman" <sail at tds.net>
>
> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 06:52:32
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Outboard Recommendations
>
>
> Dave W,
>
> Our marina has non alcoholic gas as well as a Shell station on my way to 
> the
> boat.  In addition, if the gas is more than 3 mos old I will pour it into
> the wife's car and refill the boat tank.
>
> Fair winds,
>
>>>ron<<
> S/V Serenity
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <david.walker5 at comcast.net>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 11:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Outboard Recommendations
>
>
>> Ron,
>>
>> Where do you find non-ethonal gas?
>>
>> Dave w
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Ron Singerman" <sail at tds.net>
>>
>> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 23:31:24
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Outboard Recommendations
>>
>>
>> Dan,
>>
>> I have been very satisfied with my Tohatsu / Nissan 9.8 with electric
>> start
>> and charging.  It weighs in @ 92 LBS.  The tohatsu 9.8 and the 8 HP weigh
>> exactly the same and I opted to get the additional HP.  In addition to 
>> the
>> filters in the tank and the motor I have an inline Racor with clear bulb
>> that I can drain the HOH from.  I only use non ethyl gas and add Stabil
>> marine formula.
>>
>> Fair winds,
>>
>>>>ron<<
>> S/V Serenity
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>
>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 10:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Outboard Recommendations
>>
>>
>>> Dan,
>>> You would do well with the Tohatsu 8 with electrics.  You'll have to 
>>> live
>>> with the heavier weight, but do you plan to heft it around.
>>> Art
>>> s/v Mary Jane
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Daniel Johnson <djohnson0671 at gmail.com>
>>>>Sent: Aug 16, 2009 8:24 PM
>>>>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Outboard Recommendations
>>>>
>>>>I know that we have discussed to death the ethanol fuel problems and in
>>>>particular the Yamaha 9.9 issues - and I don't want to rehash them.
>>>>However, I am looking for concrete recommendations for a new outboard 
>>>>for
>>>>our Rhodes.
>>>>
>>>>We bought an '83 (recycled by Stan in '08) and got the Yamaha 9.9 with
>>>>the
>>>>boat.  It has been nothing but unreliable.  Now after putting about $800
>>>>into repair bills in the last 2 years, I've decided to just let it sink,
>>>>or
>>>>go wherever old outboards go and buy a new one.  The unreliability of 
>>>>the
>>>>motor has made our Rhodes a very fancy raft with a very nice view from
>>>>our
>>>>slip.
>>>>
>>>>My ideal motor I don't think exists - electric start, 6-8 hp, and
>>>>weighing
>>>>about 75 lbs or less.  So what are the best options out there from you
>>>>folks' perspectives?  The boat is in a slip on the Chesapeake 
>>>>(Solomons);
>>>>while I obviously would prefer to be sailing, we need an engine to get 
>>>>in
>>>>and out of the slip and to get home reliably when the wind fails.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for any and all recommendations, real-world expierences, etc. 
>>>>I'd
>>>>like to buy one this fall before the season comes to a close.
>>>>
>>>>Dan Johnson
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