[Rhodes22-list] Outboard repair question

R22RumRunner at aol.com R22RumRunner at aol.com
Fri Aug 28 11:48:06 EDT 2009


Most 2 cycle engines only have two adjustments. One is the idle stop screw  
which adjusts the idle speed. The other adjustment is the idle mixture 
screw.  This adjusts how much gas you are burning at idle. Not that hard to 
adjust. Get  the engine running at what you consider to be a good idle speed and 
then adjust  the idle mixture screw until the engine is running smoothly. A 
 little on the rich side is better than to lean. You may  have to tinker 
with both of them until you get it right, but these are really  simple engines.
I would also recommend taking some carb cleaner with you and spray it down  
the throat of the carb while the engine is running. Probably isn't 
necessary,  but couldn't hurt.
 
Rummy
 
 
In a message dated 8/28/2009 10:52:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
atmcneil at gmail.com writes:


I  did adjust the idle screw and it didn't have any affect whatsoever.  
That's
why I'm thinking Rummy may be right. I'm certain the carb will need  some
serious adjustment once I can get it to run anywhere but wide  open.



Rick-139 wrote:
> 
> Did you try adjusting  the idle set screw?  It is external to the engine
> and
>  just changes the stop position of the throttle rod--not a jet  adjustment
> as
> Rummy seems to think.
> 
>  Rick
> 
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:33 AM, atmcneil  <atmcneil at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>
>> Well, I'm  picking up a fuel pump rebuild kit today so we should find out
>>  if
>> you're right be the end of the weekend. I sure hope you are  right,
>> because
>> I
>> really would like to get  this motor running.
>>
>>
>>
>>  R22RumRunner wrote:
>> >
>> > Rick,
>> >  First of all, a carburetor does not have a diaphragm. It might have  a
>> > float bowl with a float in it, but no diaphragm. Replacing  the fuel
>> pump
>> > diaphragm is probably the easiest  thing you can do. Simply remove the
>> > cover from
>>  > the pump, remove the old diaphragm, install the new one and replace  
the
>> > cover.  Screwing with the idle and high speed jets  is like doing brain
>> > surgery
>> > on  someone  who simply has indigestion.
>> > Trust me on this one. The fuel  pump works off of vacuum that is 
created
>> by
>> > the  internal workings of the engine. When he said it would only run on
>>  > high
>> >  speed (throttle wide open) I knew exactly  what it was. It's sucking
>> gas
>> > through  the  fuel pump into the cylinders, bypassing the carb. Ta Dah!
>>  >
>> > Rummy
>> >
>> >
>> >  In a message dated 8/27/2009 5:17:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>  > sloopblueheron at gmail.com writes:
>> >
>> > Cool  it,  Rummy.  This is a constant fuel velocity design that  is
>> running
>> > full  out.  A simple idle  control adjustment should be tried before
>>  major
>>  > surgery.  If there is a diaphragm problem, the carburetor   diaphragm
>> (if
>> > there is one) is a more likely  culprit with gunk holding it  down to
>> let
>> >  in
>> > too much air. A detergent additive or a tank of high   detergent gas
>> could
>> > solve it.
>>  >
>> > With these engines, the  quality/stability of the  engine oil is more
>> > significant than the quality of  the  gas.  I stick with OMC's products
>> > just
>> >  to be  safe.
>> >
>> > Rick
>>  >
>> > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:06 AM,   <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Rick  and  Andrew,
>> >>
>> >> This is the last  time I'm going to tell you what is  wrong. IT'S THE
>> >>  DIAPHRAGM IN THE FUEL PUMP. REPLACE  IT.
>> >>
>>  >> Rummy
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  In a message dated 8/26/2009  6:13:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight  Time,
>> >> sloopblueheron at gmail.com  writes:
>>  >>
>> >> Andrew,
>> >>
>>  >> This engine is a 2  stroke--generally not bothered by  old  gas.
>> >>
>> >>  Rick
>>  >>
>> >> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Andrew  Collins   <
>> >>  sailingvesselcarmen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>>  >> >  Make sure you  have fresh, treated gas. I have a new  Tohatsu 4
>>  stroke
>> >> > that Will  not  idle if the gas is more than a couple  of weeks old
>>  >> > This gets worse  with humid weather
>>  >>  > Another symptom is loping at médium speeds I Will   get a filter 
>> for
>> >> > NeXT  season
>> >> > Andrew
>> >> >
>>  >> >  Sent from  mobile device.
>> >>  >
>> >> > On Aug 25, 2009, at  10:41 AM,  atmcneil  <atmcneil at gmail.com> 
wrote:
>> >>   >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I have  an  '94 Yachtwin  (Evinrude) 8hp outboard that has a
>>  problem.
>> >> > > It   starts
>>  >> > > but will only run at full throttle. It won't idle   at  all.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >  Has anyone had this problem  and how do you fix  it?
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