[Rhodes22-list] Blue Heron gets beaded

TN Rhodey tnrhodey at gmail.com
Wed Feb 4 07:42:56 EST 2009


Mike, Your repair looks good. The cockpit table support seems to be a common
source of leaks. I had to repair mine several years ago.

Rick, Non skid seats may be a good idea. We always use the cushions or at
least a throw cushion. Try to find a deck already painted with similar non
skid and take a seat? Instead of the entire seat maybe just non-skid a small
area to use for stepping aboard? Good luck.

Wally

On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com>wrote:

> Rick,
>
> Several years ago I faced a similar problem with the cockpit floor of my
> '81
> R22:
> http://www.nabble.com/leaks-to9963010.html#a9998040
>
> The floor had two additional major problems, both responsible for the
> admission of water.  When the boat was new, we witnessed the development of
> "star burst" patterns of damage in the cockpit floor gelcoat.  They were
> circular with radial lines extending 3 to 4 inches from the  center.  Over
> the years, water must have entered the glass layers in the floor through
> these defects to cause the second and more serious problem: the separation
> or delamination of the floor components.  The freeze and thaw cycles of the
> NY winter increased the damage to floor, using the trapped water as a
> wedge.
> This became evident when the floor "oil canned" as a large bubble formed
> beneath the upper layers.  This was compounded by the destruction of the
> foam below as water continued to pass through the floor, destroying the
> support system for the cockpit floor.  Eventually, the top layer of the
> floor cracked and I was able to see into the separated
> layers directly.
>
> I concentrated my efforts on rebuilding the cockpit floor to take the
> punishment that it gets in normal use.  After drilling holes in the floor
> to
> access the internal layers, I spent several months drying out the floor
> using acetone and fans while keeping water out of the cockpit using tarps.
> I added structural wood supports and plywood to the foam below the cockpit.
> I removed all damaged foam and replaced it.  When the structure below was
> solid and the floor was dry, I used penetrating epoxy from West Marine to
> reattach the layers of glass, compressing the floor down using bricks on
> wax
> paper.  Once that the epoxy had cured, I filled the holes and any
> remaining voids using 105/206/407, finishing flush with the gel coat.
>
> Because I am not skilled enough with gel coat repairs and wish to prevent a
> similar failure in the future, I finished the cockpit floor with
> "Treadmaster Original Smooth Pattern" anti-slip deck covering.  It is about
> $150 per 3' x 4' sheet, is 1/8" thick and is secured with water proof
> adhesive.  This restored the cockpit floor, providing a really comfortable
> (on the feet) polymer surface that absorbs shock well and prevent water
> from
> entering the floor.
>
> After an entire season of use, I can honestly say that it is the most
> comfortable cockpit floor that I have ever felt.  The upkeep is easy.  The
> surface is non-skid and soft under foot.  I should have put it in years
> ago.
>
> I attached a photo of the two color flooring installed on my R22 (the link
> is probably at the very bottom of this email.
>
> Mike
> s/v Shanghaid'd Summer ('81)
>       Nissequogue River, NY
>
>
> From: "Sloop Blue Heron" Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009
>  > At age 16, Blue Heron is getting her topsides painted over in Awlgrip.
> > The
> > yard has removed all the hardware and has begun repairing water
> > penetration
> > damage to the core in many places.  The mast step is pretty squishy, so
> > that
> > will be rebuilt and re-glassed before painting.
> >
> >
> >
> > Since the paint will fill in the non-skid patterns in the gelcoat, the
> > yard
> > is going to add glass beads to the paint for painting over the existing
> > non-skid areas.  In addition, they will alter the color of the non-skid
> so
> > it is more easily recognized by guests and me during my senior moments.
> > The
> > general color will be "off white" and the non-skid will have a little red
> > added in to be "moon" in color-sort of a light tan.
> >
> >
> >
> > In the cockpit, only the sole and the lazzerette lid has non-skid now,
> > which
> > is handy when messing with the IMF.   The yard suggests painting all the
> > cockpit seating surface as non-skid for boarding safety.  That seems like
> > a
> > good idea to me because, even during the roughest ride, I use the
> cushions
> > all the time.  The glass beads ought to help keep the cushions in place,
> > so
> > it is unlikely anyone will ever sit on the itchy beads.  Does anyone have
> > any experience with that?
> >
> >
> >
> > Rick
> >
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