[Rhodes22-list] Leland a reply about list content...

[Mary Lou Troy]

Ed,
It is not just the newbies saying the tone of the 
list has got to change. It is some of us who have 
been around here from close to the beginning.

Politics were once OK. If you had suggested we 
ban politics when we switched off of Sailnet I'd 
have said it wasn't necessary. Now it seems 
politics can't be discussed with belittling the 
beliefs of a lot of people. There has been 
ugliness and disrespect from both sides the 
political fence and some very nasty things said 
by some list members about other list members. I 
know we always said "bar" but the bar is in sorry 
need a bit of regulation when folks are hitting 
each other over the head with their political 
beliefs. I don't go to a bar to have my time 
taken up by some tiresome evangelist who is 
constantly telling me or my friends how stupid 
they are. Yes I could relegate them to the trash 
bin but their voices were still permeating the 
list and affecting everybody. Besides even the 
most political of our posters have made real 
contributions to other topics (including sailing) 
I'm not in favor of banning anyone unless they 
can't behave themselves in the bar.

I disagree with you that the old-timers who have 
left have left because they were no longer the 
center of attention. If I had left last week or 
last month it would have been because I was 
thoroughly disgusted with the way people were 
attacking each others ideas. I know from meeting 
a lot of these folks that they are not that way 
in person. I like to see the list more reflective 
of that. If it takes a ban or moratorium on 
political posts or a revision of the charter so 
be it or some sort of moderation so be it. I 
don't know what will solve the problem. I don't 
know that the list will survive this even with 
changes. I just know that if it continued the way 
it was going I wouldn't be long in following Fred out the door.

Ed, if you want a party/meeting in Edenton you 
have to find someone who thinks its a great idea 
to work on it. I think it's a great idea. I might 
be able to come or even help but right now I 
can't organize it. All of the get-togethers that 
we've had have been serendipitous. It takes a 
bunch of people thinking it's a great idea at a 
time when someone has the time and energy to make 
it happen. New blood is always helpful in that 
regard. BTW, I don't seem to have the date - I 
tried searching the archives but couldn't find it.

Happy New Year!

Mary Lou
1991 R22 Fretless
Rock Hall, MD



At 12:20 PM 1/2/2009, you wrote:
>Lee, Thena's history of this forum is only half 
>complete.  The original group moved off the 
>Sailnet list for several reasons to include 
>extraneous subjects.  On the old list that was 
>limited to sailing topics, it was tiring and 
>redundant to see post, “Test to see if list is 
>working”.  One of the chief culprits of those 
>posts is still making music. The Political stuff 
>was instigated by a reader from North 
>Carolina.  I suspect that he did so just to 
>agitate the congregation.  And he still does it, 
>just not as much. We had one member who got to 
>using foul language so much that he was 
>excommunicated.  What has appeared on the Rhodes 
>List for the past few months happened four and 
>eight years ago.  The original congregation said 
>barroom not living room.  Now we have new 
>congregants who bought the house next to the 
>airport runway wanting the airplanes to go 
>away.  I would suggest that a couple of old 
>timers have left because they are no longer the 
>center of the party.  No body was stroking their 
>egos anymore, but rather confronting them.  Mary 
>Lou suggested the Chesapeake Rhodies were due 
>for a party.  It has been suggested in the past, 
>but nothing ever done about meeting in 
>Edenton.  In a few weeks there will be another 
>birthday that would be appropriate for a winter 
>wingding.  The airport is right across the 
>street from General Boats. Those guys with 
>airplanes could even fly in!  Mary Lou should 
>have the date somewhere? My two cents worth, Ed 
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