[Rhodes22-list] John Shulick - I draw a distiction

[Rik Sandberg]

Wally,

Agreed, corporate officer's compensation is ridiculous. Especially 
considering the amount of personal responsibility they show. (Thain is 
the latest perfect example) BUT, every one of those corporations has a 
board of directors that agreed to pay that compensation. Was somebody 
holding a gun to their heads?? .... or are they just that stupid. We 
can't blame a man for taking the money that was offered to him.

Rik

"There is no such thing as luck. There is only adequate or inadequate preparation to cope with a statistical universe." ... Robert Heinlein



TN Rhodey wrote:
> Herb, I agree with your comment about domestic violence. I think John was
> pointing out a possible effect of layoffs rather than the cause of domestic
> violence,
>
>  If shipping jobs overseas sustains the long term growth of a company that
> is a good thing. I can't fault a company for making decisions that help them
> stay in business. I do have a problem with US companies taking advantage of
> sweat shop type labor.
>
> I also think share holders are waking up and realizing  these  CEO comp
> packages are way out of line.
>
> Fair Winds,
>
> Wally
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>wrote:
>
>   
>> Why? Why is it wrong for those who "glibly ship millions of jobs
>> oversees". Those are THEIR jobs to ship where they please.
>>
>> Anyone who commits "domestic violence" because of a job situation IS the
>> SOB, not the person who shipped the job overseas.
>>
>>
>> John Shulick wrote:
>>     
>>> "I draw a distiction between those who cut off a reporters head on a
>>>       
>> video,
>>     
>>> attach a bomb with shrapnel then send that person into a crowd and
>>>       
>> explode
>>     
>>> the bomb, those who capture someone and wait for a camera to banyonet the
>>> prisoner, you get the idea."
>>>
>>> And I see little difference with those who glibly ship millions of jobs
>>> oversees to further stuff their already full pockets leaving behind
>>>       
>> broken
>>     
>>> lives and shattered families. Have you ever contemplated the the domestic
>>> violence these suited SOBs' have caused?
>>>
>>> "I have no problem with hanging the big horse theives.  Try to get your
>>> representative in Washington to do that.
>>>
>>> But I am willing to let civil law handle those transgressions, since that
>>>       
>> is
>>     
>>> what it is for.  What penalty do you propose for those in Congress who
>>> demanded and compelled banks to loan to those who obviously could not pay
>>> the mortgage?"
>>>
>>> Everyone accused of a crime has a right to a trial before judgement is
>>> rendered and I don't believe the gitmo detainees have gotten that. If I'm
>>> wrong could someone show me a transcript of the trial. I believe our
>>> discussion was about summery execution and the dismissal of common law.
>>>       
>> Can
>>     
>>> you tell me which bill Congress passed to made such a mandate to the
>>> investment banks that bought fannie mae and freddy macs' securities or
>>>       
>> the
>>     
>>> bond ratings organizations who rated the stuff AAA? If such a bill was
>>> passed why didn't doofus Bush act like a leader and veto it???
>>>
>>> "And if you call me Comrade again, I will personally begin to attack you.
>>>       
>> -
>>     
>>> do you understand?  I guarentee that it will be vitrolic and get your
>>> attention.  Unfortunately, it will get everyone else's attention.  So
>>>       
>> learn
>>     
>>> simple politeness."
>>>
>>> I will agree to knock off the "comrade" stuff if you will agree to stop
>>> calling myself and others on this list "marxists" when we explore
>>>       
>> different
>>     
>>> ideas and opinions. Politeness is a two way street please remember that.
>>>       
>> How
>>     
>>> did you get the nickname Tootle?
>>>
>>> John Shulick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> --
>> Herb Parsons
>>
>>
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