[Rhodes22-list] John Shulick - I draw a distiction
Rik Sandberg
sanderico1 at gmail.com
Sun Jan 25 13:28:20 EST 2009
Wally,
> Somehow over the years it got out of
> whack. Just like the stock market .....
>
Yes, and it remained out of whack as long as there were more greater
fools. It appears the supply of those is dwindling though, lately.
Been telling people for a while now, (since '06) the stock market IS NOT
a savings account .... How many do you suppose took me seriously up
until about a year ago?? Ooops, too late.
Rik
"There is no such thing as luck. There is only adequate or inadequate preparation to cope with a statistical universe." ... Robert Heinlein
TN Rhodey wrote:
> Rik, No gun was needed. As long as money was made all is well.
>
> The pay is ridiculous but the market seems willing to pay, They would be
> crazy not to take what they could get. Somehow over the years it got out of
> whack. Just like the stock market .....
>
> Wally
>
> On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Rik Sandberg <sanderico1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Wally,
>>
>> Agreed, corporate officer's compensation is ridiculous. Especially
>> considering the amount of personal responsibility they show. (Thain is
>> the latest perfect example) BUT, every one of those corporations has a
>> board of directors that agreed to pay that compensation. Was somebody
>> holding a gun to their heads?? .... or are they just that stupid. We
>> can't blame a man for taking the money that was offered to him.
>>
>> Rik
>>
>> "There is no such thing as luck. There is only adequate or inadequate
>> preparation to cope with a statistical universe." ... Robert Heinlein
>>
>>
>>
>> TN Rhodey wrote:
>>
>>> Herb, I agree with your comment about domestic violence. I think John was
>>> pointing out a possible effect of layoffs rather than the cause of
>>>
>> domestic
>>
>>> violence,
>>>
>>> If shipping jobs overseas sustains the long term growth of a company
>>>
>> that
>>
>>> is a good thing. I can't fault a company for making decisions that help
>>>
>> them
>>
>>> stay in business. I do have a problem with US companies taking advantage
>>>
>> of
>>
>>> sweat shop type labor.
>>>
>>> I also think share holders are waking up and realizing these CEO comp
>>> packages are way out of line.
>>>
>>> Fair Winds,
>>>
>>> Wally
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Why? Why is it wrong for those who "glibly ship millions of jobs
>>>> oversees". Those are THEIR jobs to ship where they please.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone who commits "domestic violence" because of a job situation IS the
>>>> SOB, not the person who shipped the job overseas.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John Shulick wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> "I draw a distiction between those who cut off a reporters head on a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> video,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> attach a bomb with shrapnel then send that person into a crowd and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> explode
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> the bomb, those who capture someone and wait for a camera to banyonet
>>>>>
>> the
>>
>>>>> prisoner, you get the idea."
>>>>>
>>>>> And I see little difference with those who glibly ship millions of jobs
>>>>> oversees to further stuff their already full pockets leaving behind
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> broken
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> lives and shattered families. Have you ever contemplated the the
>>>>>
>> domestic
>>
>>>>> violence these suited SOBs' have caused?
>>>>>
>>>>> "I have no problem with hanging the big horse theives. Try to get your
>>>>> representative in Washington to do that.
>>>>>
>>>>> But I am willing to let civil law handle those transgressions, since
>>>>>
>> that
>>
>>>> is
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> what it is for. What penalty do you propose for those in Congress who
>>>>> demanded and compelled banks to loan to those who obviously could not
>>>>>
>> pay
>>
>>>>> the mortgage?"
>>>>>
>>>>> Everyone accused of a crime has a right to a trial before judgement is
>>>>> rendered and I don't believe the gitmo detainees have gotten that. If
>>>>>
>> I'm
>>
>>>>> wrong could someone show me a transcript of the trial. I believe our
>>>>> discussion was about summery execution and the dismissal of common law.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Can
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> you tell me which bill Congress passed to made such a mandate to the
>>>>> investment banks that bought fannie mae and freddy macs' securities or
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> bond ratings organizations who rated the stuff AAA? If such a bill was
>>>>> passed why didn't doofus Bush act like a leader and veto it???
>>>>>
>>>>> "And if you call me Comrade again, I will personally begin to attack
>>>>>
>> you.
>>
>>>> -
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> do you understand? I guarentee that it will be vitrolic and get your
>>>>> attention. Unfortunately, it will get everyone else's attention. So
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> learn
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> simple politeness."
>>>>>
>>>>> I will agree to knock off the "comrade" stuff if you will agree to stop
>>>>> calling myself and others on this list "marxists" when we explore
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> different
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ideas and opinions. Politeness is a two way street please remember
>>>>>
>> that.
>>
>>>> How
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> did you get the nickname Tootle?
>>>>>
>>>>> John Shulick
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Herb Parsons
>>>>
>>>>
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