[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 1916, Issue 3
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Tue Jul 14 21:09:56 EDT 2009
In regards to the bird deposit problem; I took one of my son's old rubber snakes and put it on
my Rhodes to keep the birds off my grill and it worked.
Deena
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my newold Rhodes
(david.walker5 at comcast.net)
2. Re: Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my new old Rhodes
(Caesar Paul)
3. Re: Changing line on GBI furler (Claude Cox)
4. Two Pictures from the NW Fleet Sail (Caesar Paul)
5. Re: Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got mynewold Rhodes
(Michael D. Weisner)
6. Re: Center Board Well Leak (R22RumRunner at aol.com)
7. Re: Center Board Well Leak (jimtracyjohnston at centurytel.net)
8. Re: XM/GPS? (elle)
9. Re: Two Pictures from the NW Fleet Sail (R22RumRunner at aol.com)
10. Re: Two Pictures from the NW Fleet Sail (Lowe, Rob)
11. raising the mast (Richard MacArthur)
12. Re: Two Pictures from the NW Fleet Sail (Arthur H. Czerwonky)
13. Boids-- stinkin rotten boids (R Orkin)
14. Re: Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my new old Rhodes
(John Lock)
15. Re: Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my new old Rhodes
(Arthur H. Czerwonky)
16. Re: Boids-- stinkin rotten boids (Michael D. Weisner)
17. Re: Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my new old Rhodes
(Arthur H. Czerwonky)
18. Re: Boids-- stinkin rotten boids (Michael D. Weisner)
19. Re: Two Pictures from the NW Fleet Sail (Caesar Paul)
20. Re: Boids-- stinkin rotten boids (Arthur H. Czerwonky)
21. Re: raising the mast (Lowe, Rob)
22. Re: Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my new old Rhodes
(Lowe, Rob)
23. Re: Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my new old Rhodes
(John Lock)
24. Re: bilge water, or taking a leak (Stephen Staum)
25. Re: Boids-- stinkin rotten boids (Rick)
26. Re: Two Pictures from the NW Fleet Sail (Rick)
27. Re: Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my new old Rhodes
(Ellner)
28. Re: Two Pictures from the NW Fleet Sail (Caesar Paul)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:36:55 +0000
From: david.walker5 at comcast.net
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my
newold Rhodes
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You got a great deal. I had to buy my copy.
Dave
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:51:16
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my new
old Rhodes
Yes, I have a copy. I received as small payment and a couple of
copies as a contributor to the book. The book is still available. I
believe I can still buy them at a slight discount as an "author". I
haven't had much contact with Stan Grayson. I was supposed to get a
second payment if it ever went into a second printing but don't know
if it ever did. In any event, it was fun to do and I've had great
positive feedback about the chapter both from the Rhodies on this
list and from folks on the TSBB. Your boat ended up as a stand in for
Fretless because I am such a lousy photographer.
Mary Lou
1991 Rhodes 22 Fretless
Rock Hall, MD
author of Chapter 5 in Sailing Small: Inspiration and Instruction for
the Pocket Cruiser
Edited by Stan Grayson, Devereux Books, 2004
At 11:16 AM 7/14/2009, you wrote:
>Mary Lou
>
>Did you ever get a copy of Stan Grayson's book with your chapter in it? My
>boat was a photo standin for yours.
>
>
>David Walker
>
>www.davidwalkerphotography.com
>
>Event Specialists
>
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 9:35 AM
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my new old
>Rhodes
>
>
> > Art's comment got me thinking about Ron's walk-through stern rail
> > giving better access to the swim ladder and the obstacle still in
> > place with the traveller. Ron says it's not so much of an obstacle
> > but if it was still an obstacle for someone, it would not be hard at
> > anchor to loosen the backstay adjuster and pull the starboard fastpin
> > holding the traveller in place and letting it drop down. Not sure it
> > would be necessary but it seems to me it would only take a minute to
> > do it and a minute to get the boat back ready to sail.
> >
> > Mary Lou
> > 1991 R22 Fretless
> > Rock Hall, MD
> >
> >
> > At 09:27 PM 7/13/2009, you wrote:
> >>Ron,
> >>
> >>Just look at this boat, and a '71. At this pace we will still have
> >>vintage craft when we are in our 90's. Scary, isn't it? If you can
> >>see the second picture - as pedestrian as this may sound, what is
> >>wrong with the 'almost a traveler' approach. My sailing is not so
> >>refined that the traveler bar is essential. Ponder whether an
> >>arrangement like that wouldn't be more workable for you and Linda,
> >>especially with your impressive new swim ladder walkway. Take that
> >>a step further - what if you hung the clew onto the port aft shroud
> >>(get the boom out of the way), used a clip-on for a rope traveler on
> >>the stbd side (get the tripping obstacle out of the way) , and you
> >>would have a dandy walk-thru (under the stbd aft shroud) directly
> >>from the the swim ladder.
> >>
> >>Better find an aspirin...
> >>
> >>Art
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net>
> >> >Sent: Jul 13, 2009 9:04 PM
> >> >To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I just got my new old Rhodes
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Hi Jeff,
> >> >
> >> > Congrats on your boat, I'm enclosing picts on my 71 which has the
> >> > original
> >> >rigging as far as I know. I have also run the lines from the mast to the
> >> >cockpit for easier single handling. On port side I have a downhaul line,
> >> >and
> >> >a cunningham line. The starboard side is the main halyard and genoa
> >> >furler.
> >> >Enclosed are picts.
> >> >
> >> >John Shulick
> >> >http://www.nabble.com/file/p24472095/DSCF0299.jpg
> >> >http://www.nabble.com/file/p24472095/DSCF0300.jpg
> >> >http://www.nabble.com/file/p24472095/DSCF0291.jpg
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >View this message in context:
> >>
> http://www.nabble.com/I-just-got-my-new-old-Rhodes-tp24450961p24472095.html
> >> >Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >> >
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:13:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Caesar Paul <caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my
new old Rhodes
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Mary Lou,
?
I am following the discussions, and you make a good point about loosening the back stay at anchor for greater ease of access to and from the cockpit.
?
It is a workout for me stepping over the stern rail when working on my boat at home, and I often will place a step ladder next to the boat for some relief.
?
Ron,
?
You did a very nice job with that stern rail modification, and thanks for sharing it with us.
?
Caesar
--- On Tue, 7/14/09, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:
From: Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my new old Rhodes
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 6:35 AM
Art's comment got me thinking about Ron's walk-through stern rail
giving better access to the swim ladder and the obstacle still in
place with the traveller. Ron says it's not so much of an obstacle
but if it was still an obstacle for someone, it would not be hard at
anchor to loosen the backstay adjuster and pull the starboard fastpin
holding the traveller in place and letting it drop down. Not sure it
would be necessary but it seems to me it would only take a minute to
do it and a minute to get the boat back ready to sail.
Mary Lou
1991 R22? Fretless
Rock Hall, MD
At 09:27 PM 7/13/2009, you wrote:
>Ron,
>
>Just look at this boat, and a '71.? At this pace we will still have
>vintage craft when we are in our 90's.? Scary, isn't it?? If you can
>see the second picture - as pedestrian as this may sound, what is
>wrong with the 'almost a traveler' approach.? My sailing is not so
>refined that the traveler bar is essential.? Ponder whether an
>arrangement like that wouldn't be more workable for you and Linda,
>especially with your impressive new swim ladder walkway.? Take that
>a step further - what if you hung the clew onto the port aft shroud
>(get the boom out of the way), used a clip-on for a rope traveler on
>the stbd side (get the tripping obstacle out of the way) , and you
>would have a dandy walk-thru (under the stbd aft shroud) directly
>from the the swim ladder.
>
>Better find an aspirin...
>
>Art
>
>-----Original Message-----
> >From: John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net>
> >Sent: Jul 13, 2009 9:04 PM
> >To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I just got my new old Rhodes
> >
> >
> >Hi Jeff,
> >
> > Congrats on your boat, I'm enclosing picts on my 71 which has the original
> >rigging as far as I know. I have also run the lines from the mast to the
> >cockpit for easier single handling. On port side I have a downhaul line, and
> >a cunningham line. The starboard side is the main halyard and genoa furler.
> >Enclosed are picts.
> >
> >John Shulick
> >http://www.nabble.com/file/p24472095/DSCF0299.jpg
> >http://www.nabble.com/file/p24472095/DSCF0300.jpg
> >http://www.nabble.com/file/p24472095/DSCF0291.jpg
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >View this message in context:
> http://www.nabble.com/I-just-got-my-new-old-Rhodes-tp24450961p24472095.html
> >Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:55:47 -0400
From: "Claude Cox" <ccc974 at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Changing line on GBI furler
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Hi David;
Just wanted to let you know that I have a new furler line now. Your
description of what to expect was right on target. Thanks for your
assistance.
Claude
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Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Changing line on GBI furler
> Claude:
>
> I don't know which furler you have since Rummy's description didn't
> ring a bell, but my 1998 has the old GBI furler with the grooved luff
> tube and the exposed furler barrel. The furler bottom cap rides atop
> a hollow bearing which is mounted on the forestay line and sits on top
> of the swagged fitting. If yours is like mine, to replace the line you
> need to remove the bottom cap exposing the inside of the furling tube.
> It comes apart in several pieces (3 if I remember correctly). Force
> the knot that secures the line back through the bottom of the luff
> tube and cut it off so that you can remove the old line. You may need
> a long pair of needle nose pliers to get at it. Then insert the new
> line into the hole in the furling barrel and out of the bottom of the
> tube. Tie a new knot and pull the knot back up inside the tube to
> secure it. I had the mast down when I did it, so it was easy. You
> could do it with the mast up, but you will need someone or something
> to hold the furler up off the bearing while you take the bottom cap
> off. Once you get the bottom cap back together, you may want to add a
> screw-down clamp around the bottom to hold the two pieces (where the
> bearing rides) together more securely. Mine is 11 years old and still
> works fine with the addition of the clamp. I actually prefer this
> furler to some of the new ones because of its simplicity.
>
> Anyway, be sure to replace the line with the same size so that you can
> get it to pass through the present holes and feeder block. Another
> concern is when the line rolls onto the furler barrel-a line with too
> large a diameter may exceed the barrel capacity and we know what fun
> it is to the have the line come off the barrel and loop around the
> forestay while sailing. :-) Hope this helped.
>
> David
>
>
> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:22:11 -0400
> From: "Claude Cox" <ccc974 at comcast.net>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Changing line on gbi furler
> To: "Rhodes22 list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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>
> Hello Everyone;
>
> The sheathing on the furling line of the 175 is chafed through, and I
> need to replace it. What is the procedure for doing that. I have
> checked the archives, but got no help.
> Thanks.
>
> Claude
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:21:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: Caesar Paul <caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Two Pictures from the NW Fleet Sail
To: Rhodes List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Hi Guys,
?
I am responding to Arthur's gentle prompting to send evidence that our fleet sail really happened.
?
In the first picture, Steve Jacobs and I are preparing our boat for launch at Washington Park in Fidalgo Head, a few miles from Anacortes.
?
The second picture is yours truly with Steve in the background.? These were taken while crossing Rosario Straight on our way to the southern tip of Lopez Island.
?
It was an exciting, but not incident free trip.
?
Caesar Paul
Gentle Breeze
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:01:19 -0400
From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got
mynewold Rhodes
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If anyone is interested, they are still available on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/192886208X/ref=cm_rdp_product
Sailing Small: Inspiration and Instruction for the Pocket Cruiser
(Paperback)
by Stan Grayson (Editor)
ISBN-10: 192886208X
$12.71
(or $9.44 + $3.99 shipping from A1Books via Amazon)
(and in Japan!! at 1,521 Yen from:
https://bookweb.kinokuniya.co.jp/guest/cgi-bin/booksea.cgi?W-AUTHOR=Grayson%2C+Stan )
Mike
s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
Nissequogue River, NY
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Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got mynewold
Rhodes
> You got a great deal. I had to buy my copy.
>
> Dave
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
>
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:51:16
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my new
> old Rhodes
>
>
> Yes, I have a copy. I received as small payment and a couple of
> copies as a contributor to the book. The book is still available. I
> believe I can still buy them at a slight discount as an "author". I
> haven't had much contact with Stan Grayson. I was supposed to get a
> second payment if it ever went into a second printing but don't know
> if it ever did. In any event, it was fun to do and I've had great
> positive feedback about the chapter both from the Rhodies on this
> list and from folks on the TSBB. Your boat ended up as a stand in for
> Fretless because I am such a lousy photographer.
>
> Mary Lou
> 1991 Rhodes 22 Fretless
> Rock Hall, MD
>
> author of Chapter 5 in Sailing Small: Inspiration and Instruction for
> the Pocket Cruiser
> Edited by Stan Grayson, Devereux Books, 2004
>
>
>
> At 11:16 AM 7/14/2009, you wrote:
>>Mary Lou
>>
>>Did you ever get a copy of Stan Grayson's book with your chapter in it?
>>My
>>boat was a photo standin for yours.
>>
>>
>>David Walker
>>
>>www.davidwalkerphotography.com
>>
>>Event Specialists
>>
>>781-639-2707 Office
>>781-718-8690 Cell
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
>>To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 9:35 AM
>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my new old
>>Rhodes
>>
>>
>> > Art's comment got me thinking about Ron's walk-through stern rail
>> > giving better access to the swim ladder and the obstacle still in
>> > place with the traveller. Ron says it's not so much of an obstacle
>> > but if it was still an obstacle for someone, it would not be hard at
>> > anchor to loosen the backstay adjuster and pull the starboard fastpin
>> > holding the traveller in place and letting it drop down. Not sure it
>> > would be necessary but it seems to me it would only take a minute to
>> > do it and a minute to get the boat back ready to sail.
>> >
>> > Mary Lou
>> > 1991 R22 Fretless
>> > Rock Hall, MD
>> >
>> >
>> > At 09:27 PM 7/13/2009, you wrote:
>> >>Ron,
>> >>
>> >>Just look at this boat, and a '71. At this pace we will still have
>> >>vintage craft when we are in our 90's. Scary, isn't it? If you can
>> >>see the second picture - as pedestrian as this may sound, what is
>> >>wrong with the 'almost a traveler' approach. My sailing is not so
>> >>refined that the traveler bar is essential. Ponder whether an
>> >>arrangement like that wouldn't be more workable for you and Linda,
>> >>especially with your impressive new swim ladder walkway. Take that
>> >>a step further - what if you hung the clew onto the port aft shroud
>> >>(get the boom out of the way), used a clip-on for a rope traveler on
>> >>the stbd side (get the tripping obstacle out of the way) , and you
>> >>would have a dandy walk-thru (under the stbd aft shroud) directly
>> >>from the the swim ladder.
>> >>
>> >>Better find an aspirin...
>> >>
>> >>Art
>> >>
>> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >> >From: John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net>
>> >> >Sent: Jul 13, 2009 9:04 PM
>> >> >To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> >> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I just got my new old Rhodes
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Hi Jeff,
>> >> >
>> >> > Congrats on your boat, I'm enclosing picts on my 71 which has the
>> >> > original
>> >> >rigging as far as I know. I have also run the lines from the mast to
>> >> >the
>> >> >cockpit for easier single handling. On port side I have a downhaul
>> >> >line,
>> >> >and
>> >> >a cunningham line. The starboard side is the main halyard and genoa
>> >> >furler.
>> >> >Enclosed are picts.
>> >> >
>> >> >John Shulick
>> >> >http://www.nabble.com/file/p24472095/DSCF0299.jpg
>> >> >http://www.nabble.com/file/p24472095/DSCF0300.jpg
>> >> >http://www.nabble.com/file/p24472095/DSCF0291.jpg
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >View this message in context:
>> >>
>> http://www.nabble.com/I-just-got-my-new-old-Rhodes-tp24450961p24472095.html
>> >> >Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>> >> >
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:02:28 EDT
From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Center Board Well Leak
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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David,
Nope, no Kabooms. RumRunner has been on the hard for a little over a year
now. Our lake decided to all but disappear and then suddenly reappear this
spring. Hartwell dropped an amazing 23 feet before the Army Corps decided to
fill it back up. We are still currently four feet below full pool, but
three years of draught conditions really hurt. I took advantage of the low
water and had her repainted. I have a couple of additional upgrades and things
to take care of and then she will be back in the water.....soon I hope.
Work seems to be getting in the way of working on her.
Rummy
In a message dated 7/14/2009 11:26:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
david.walker5 at comcast.net writes:
Rummy,
Glad to be back. BTW how's your gas tank? Any Kabooms yet?
As for the UHMWPE, there is a lot of it on my boat clearly from the
factory.
The pop top slider, boom slider and most of the outboard mount. Any way
thats not the point. I just wanted to let people know what they might
find.
The kneeling to get the cap off was fun. I used tile layers neepads and
that helped a lot. The tough part was getting the backing wrench on the
bolt heads under the flange.
David Walker
www.davidwalkerphotography.com
Event Specialists
781-639-2707 Office
781-718-8690 Cell
----- Original Message -----
From: <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Center Board Well Leak
> Dave,
> Welcome back to the list. Finding leaks can be a real problem when there
> are previous owners possibly involved. I have been inside five
centerboard
> trunks over the years and everyone one is different. No two were
> identical.
> Previous owners or who knows who had been changes to the pulley systems
> and
> parts that operate the centerboard. I can pretty much assure you that the
> use of UHMWPE was not a factory fix. Glad you were able to make the
> repair
> once you knew the problem. Working in that area certainly is not fun. I
> can't kneel for extended periods anymore. Old age is beginning to take
> it's
> toll on my poor abused body.
>
> Rummy
>
>
> In a message dated 7/13/2009 3:43:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> david.walker5 at comcast.net writes:
>
> Greetings to the list.
>
> I haven't been active on the list for a few years but have been actively
> sailing my boat, Windswept, out of Salem harbor in MA. I re-signed up to
> share with you all something I found this spring that I think should be
> brought to all owners attention.
>
> For the 11 years I have owned my R22 (bought from Stan in 1998 as
> recycled) I have been fighting a slow leak. Many helpful suggestions
> pointed at
> rainwater leaks, which I did have and were mostly fixed. However there
was
> a
> consistent salt water leak that I could not find. I pretty easily ruled
> out
> the thru hulls and was left with the centerboard well. Two years ago I
> removed the cap and cleaned the mating surfaces, replaced the fender
> washers and
> removed a small block that was through bolted to the top of the cap (part
> of the 4:1 board raising tackle). This didn't make any change.
>
> Last summer returning to the boat (at her mooring) after a weeks
absence
> I
> found water about a foot above the sole. The battery was under water and
> completely shorted out. Its unclear whether the bilge pump failed or the
> increasing leak rate caused the pump to discharge the battery. Anyway, I
> limped to the local marina where I winter store, pumped out the bilge
> with a
> home sump pump, had an emergency haul and had it blocked for the
winter.
> (I
> was pretty discouraged and was about to leave on a 3 week trip).
>
> This spring I resolved to find the leak once and for all. When I opened
> the boat I found a little rain water in the bilge but nothing was
leaking
> out. I filled the bilge to above the cap and a steady trickle started
to
> run
> out of the aft end of the CB slot. I lowered the water with a pump to
> just
> below the cap seal and the trickle continued. I lowered the water level
> to
> about halfway from the cap to the bilge and the trickle stopped. Very
> strange. This eliminated the cap seal and the pennant thru hull as a
> leak.
>
> I removed the cap (fun job) and carefully inspected the inside of the
> well. At the aft end I found a piece of UHMWP in the shape of an upside
> down V
> wedged from side to side at the top of the well. My guess is its job is
> as
> a seat for the top of the CB when it is up to keep it from moving side
to
> side. The critical thing is that this piece was screwed in place with
> long
> screws from the top of the piece, diagonally down through the side of
the
> well from inside to outside. The tips of the screws were actually
though
> the
> outside of the well about halfway up from the blige to the cap. After
> years
> of the board banging into this, the screws had loosened in the fiber
> glass
> and I could literally just pull them out with my hand. These screws were
> loose in their holes had provided literally two holes in the bottom of
> the
> boat. I took them out, dried out the area, ground it down and patched
> with
> epoxy and two layers of glass inside and out.
>
> My point in this post is that this may or may not have been done at the
> factory and I'm not blaming anyone, but it was present in my hull. If
> anyone
> has a slow leak in this area, it would be worthwile to check it out,
and
> if
> you pull your cap for any reason definetely check it. Now I just have
to
> finish all those pesky port light rain leaks!!
>
>
> Dave Walker
>
> __________________________________________________
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>
>
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> tour at TourTracker.com.
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:04:17 -0400
From: jimtracyjohnston at centurytel.net
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Center Board Well Leak
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <20090714150417.o864cvpanuu8k88g at webmail2.centurytel.net>
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David, Thank you for your input. Last fall I had our R-22 up in a
lift. The CB lifting line broke and allowed the CB to drop down under
the boat. The boat was elevated on the lift out of the water but not
high enough. When large waves rolled into the shore the boat was lifted
up and off the lift crade. This alloewd the CB to drop all of the way
down into a vertical position. When the wave rolled past the lift the
boat floated back down and the CB in a vertical position was pushed up
through the CB trunk cap. I had leaks in the CB cap years ago and
replaced all of the screws (52) with #10-32x1-1/2" stainless steel
bolts and nuts. I added a neoprene gasket and washers on both the top
and bottom of the CB trunk flang. I also removed the 4:1 pulleys in the
trunk and on the CB. I still have some water in the CB well area. I'm
not sure if it is draining down into this area from other areas of the
boat i.e. under cock-pit floor, thru-hull fittings etc. I could feel
better about my CB staying up with better a cleating system for the
lifting line. Replacing the lifting line is much easier without the 4:1
pulley system. I am open for ideas for the CB lifting line cleat. Jim J
Quoting David Walker <david.walker5 at comcast.net>:
> Rummy,
>
> Glad to be back. BTW how's your gas tank? Any Kabooms yet?
>
> As for the UHMWPE, there is a lot of it on my boat clearly from the factory.
> The pop top slider, boom slider and most of the outboard mount. Any way
> thats not the point. I just wanted to let people know what they might
> find.
>
> The kneeling to get the cap off was fun. I used tile layers neepads and
> that helped a lot. The tough part was getting the backing wrench on the
> bolt heads under the flange.
>
>
> David Walker
>
> www.davidwalkerphotography.com
>
> Event Specialists
>
> 781-639-2707 Office
> 781-718-8690 Cell
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 4:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Center Board Well Leak
>
>
> > Dave,
> > Welcome back to the list. Finding leaks can be a real problem when there
> > are previous owners possibly involved. I have been inside five centerboard
> > trunks over the years and everyone one is different. No two were
> > identical.
> > Previous owners or who knows who had been changes to the pulley systems
> > and
> > parts that operate the centerboard. I can pretty much assure you that the
> > use of UHMWPE was not a factory fix. Glad you were able to make the
> > repair
> > once you knew the problem. Working in that area certainly is not fun. I
> > can't kneel for extended periods anymore. Old age is beginning to take
> > it's
> > toll on my poor abused body.
> >
> > Rummy
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 7/13/2009 3:43:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > david.walker5 at comcast.net writes:
> >
> > Greetings to the list.
> >
> > I haven't been active on the list for a few years but have been actively
> > sailing my boat, Windswept, out of Salem harbor in MA. I re-signed up to
> > share with you all something I found this spring that I think should be
> > brought to all owners attention.
> >
> > For the 11 years I have owned my R22 (bought from Stan in 1998 as
> > recycled) I have been fighting a slow leak. Many helpful suggestions
> > pointed at
> > rainwater leaks, which I did have and were mostly fixed. However there was
> > a
> > consistent salt water leak that I could not find. I pretty easily ruled
> > out
> > the thru hulls and was left with the centerboard well. Two years ago I
> > removed the cap and cleaned the mating surfaces, replaced the fender
> > washers and
> > removed a small block that was through bolted to the top of the cap (part
> > of the 4:1 board raising tackle). This didn't make any change.
> >
> > Last summer returning to the boat (at her mooring) after a weeks absence
> > I
> > found water about a foot above the sole. The battery was under water and
> > completely shorted out. Its unclear whether the bilge pump failed or the
> > increasing leak rate caused the pump to discharge the battery. Anyway, I
> > limped to the local marina where I winter store, pumped out the bilge
> > with a
> > home sump pump, had an emergency haul and had it blocked for the winter.
> > (I
> > was pretty discouraged and was about to leave on a 3 week trip).
> >
> > This spring I resolved to find the leak once and for all. When I opened
> > the boat I found a little rain water in the bilge but nothing was leaking
> > out. I filled the bilge to above the cap and a steady trickle started to
> > run
> > out of the aft end of the CB slot. I lowered the water with a pump to
> > just
> > below the cap seal and the trickle continued. I lowered the water level
> > to
> > about halfway from the cap to the bilge and the trickle stopped. Very
> > strange. This eliminated the cap seal and the pennant thru hull as a
> > leak.
> >
> > I removed the cap (fun job) and carefully inspected the inside of the
> > well. At the aft end I found a piece of UHMWP in the shape of an upside
> > down V
> > wedged from side to side at the top of the well. My guess is its job is
> > as
> > a seat for the top of the CB when it is up to keep it from moving side to
> > side. The critical thing is that this piece was screwed in place with
> > long
> > screws from the top of the piece, diagonally down through the side of the
> > well from inside to outside. The tips of the screws were actually though
> > the
> > outside of the well about halfway up from the blige to the cap. After
> > years
> > of the board banging into this, the screws had loosened in the fiber
> > glass
> > and I could literally just pull them out with my hand. These screws were
> > loose in their holes had provided literally two holes in the bottom of
> > the
> > boat. I took them out, dried out the area, ground it down and patched
> > with
> > epoxy and two layers of glass inside and out.
> >
> > My point in this post is that this may or may not have been done at the
> > factory and I'm not blaming anyone, but it was present in my hull. If
> > anyone
> > has a slow leak in this area, it would be worthwile to check it out, and
> > if
> > you pull your cap for any reason definetely check it. Now I just have to
> > finish all those pesky port light rain leaks!!
> >
> >
> > Dave Walker
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to
> > http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > __________________________________________________
> >
> >
> > **************Summer concert season is here! Find your favorite artists on
> > tour at TourTracker.com.
> > (http://www.tourtracker.com/?ncid=emlcntusmusi00000006)
> > __________________________________________________
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> >
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:04:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: elle <watermusic38 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] XM/GPS?
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Yes, John's analysis did have a the ring of sense to it.
It was a weird event, though.....
thanks to Ben & John & all for the analyses..
elle
Beer is good....people are crazy
1992 Rhodes 22 ? ?Recycled '06"Watermusic" ?{Lady in Red}
--- On Mon, 7/13/09, Ben Schultz <benonvelvetelvis at theskinnyonbenny.com> wrote:
From: Ben Schultz <benonvelvetelvis at theskinnyonbenny.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] XM/GPS?
To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 4:13 PM
I think John's explanation is probably the one that makes sense -- the unit
could have used a cell phone network to make the call.? I also doubt that it
has the power or proper antenna to beam your info to a satellite.? I don't
think the people at XM get the data on what & when you're listening.? Past
attempts to drop stations only to have a scramble to get them back up make
me feel fairly certain of that.
(Tivo, on the other hand, let's the mother ship know all about what you're
watching, when you're watching it, preferences you mark, etc.? Their policy
says so plain as can be.? Supposedly, they don't associate that data with
your personal account, but I'm sure the connection can be made.)
I've got an XM unit like Rummy's that I used to carry around in my pocket.
I fight a lot of tree cover in my yard and neighborhood, so I've quit using
it for the most part. I noticed last week that they've come out with an
Iphone app that streams the music over an internet connection, so I might
start using that as the alternative.? I should be able to get high quality
sound when I'm in range of the home wireless, but I wouldn't expect as good
when I'm using the cell phone network.? Probably stick with the antenna at
the sky method for sailing.
Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of elle
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 21:14
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] XM/GPS?
No, Rory..it happened.Just as I said. No elaboration.
elle
Beer is good....people are crazy
1992 Rhodes 22 ? ?Recycled '06"Watermusic" ?{Lady in Red}
--- On Sun, 7/12/09, R Orkin <roryorkin at verizon.net> wrote:
From: R Orkin <roryorkin at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] XM/GPS?
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Date: Sunday, July 12, 2009, 6:47 PM
By what medium could xm possibly "call home" ?
It has no transmit capability other than short range FM so it can be heard
on the car radio
There is no tie in to a specific car or anything of that nature..
I even have one on my riding mower.
I suspect your friend may have gotten a call from a neighbor who saw her
move it and was playing a prank.
What you have described is quite impossible
? ? ? ? ???Rory
Lady in Red wrote:
>
>
> ?An interesting event happened to a friend of mine; I wondered if anyone
> here knew how this could happen:
> ?
> She had bought an XM radio (not a very high-end one) and was doing the
> installation process in her car as instructed.
> ?
> She (for some reason I do not know) moved the radio during the setup to
> another vehicle not far away ( maybe 20 ' or so).
> ?
> Within minutes, XM CALLED HER to inquire as to why she had moved the radio
> TO ANOTHER VEHICLE.
> ?
> THe radio must communicate with satellite, as you have to give them the
> unique identifier code for your radio; but what is baffling is that they
> knew that it was in another vehicle.
> ?
> A conundrum for a slow afternoon at the docks..
> ?
> ;^)
> ?
> elle
>
>
>? ? ???
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:09:16 EDT
From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Two Pictures from the NW Fleet Sail
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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Caesar,
What is with the whimpy looking life vest. Do you really think you might
fall overboard.....out of a Rhodes? And where is the rum filled alcoholic
adult beverage that's supposed to be in your empty hand? You really have a lot
to learn about proper sailing technique. I have a lot of work in front of
me.
Rummy
In a message dated 7/14/2009 2:22:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com writes:
Caesar Paul
**************Summer concert season is here! Find your favorite artists on
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:50:51 -0400
From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Two Pictures from the NW Fleet Sail
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Caesar,
I see you responded to Art's gentle prompting. Hope there are more
pictures and stories coming. And pay no attention to Rummy, he's just
grumpy because his boat's on the hard and he's been relegated to
drinking on his dock. - rob
-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
R22RumRunner at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 3:09 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Two Pictures from the NW Fleet Sail
Caesar,
What is with the whimpy looking life vest. Do you really think you might
fall overboard.....out of a Rhodes? And where is the rum filled
alcoholic
adult beverage that's supposed to be in your empty hand? You really
have a lot
to learn about proper sailing technique. I have a lot of work in front
of
me.
Rummy
In a message dated 7/14/2009 2:22:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com writes:
Caesar Paul
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:15:30 -0400
From: "Richard MacArthur" <Richard at MacArthurLawFirm.com>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] raising the mast
To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Well I got it done for the first time. There was me with my 75 year old
bones, my co- owner with his 150 pounds and my 6 foot 4 inch 250 pound
son in law. I didn't feel much weight while pushing up nor did my co-
owner so I may have found that mythical "one man" who could do it by
himself (he was a shotputter in college).
Finally got out for a sail on Sunday and was happy with the way the boat
sails. I've owned a lot of different sailboats and this one sails with
the best of them. I had light to medium winds. Looks like it will have
lee helm in very light winds and balance almost hands off in medium
winds. I have the mast raked back a little and could rake it back some
more if the lee helm were a problem but I like it the way it is.
I had to have the mainsail repaired before I launched the boat (named
Eagle's Wing ). The luff of the main had rotted for about 2 inches.
This must be that which is exposed to the sun when the sail is furled
inside the mast. Has anyone else had this problem? The repair was to put
a patch on the entire length of the luff and I'd like to protect the
furled main from the sun if there were an easy way to do this. On the
other hand maybe it's not a problem. I don't know how long the mast with
the sail inside might have sat on land uncovered and that won't happen
again. Happy sailing, Richard.
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:36:57 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Two Pictures from the NW Fleet Sail
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Caesar,
I like the pictures, especially of that dude that looks like a Rhodes skipper. The other picture, I just don't know. Those trees and ramp look like a scene from Blacksburg VA, at a lake nearby. Whatya say, Rob and Rummy - what "proof' do we really need to have. Is 90 Proof adequate, if the brand is right, or course. I've always heard you have to watch those Norwesterns...
Art
-----Original Message-----
>From: Caesar Paul <caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com>
>Sent: Jul 14, 2009 2:21 PM
>To: Rhodes List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Two Pictures from the NW Fleet Sail
>
>Hi Guys,
>?
>I am responding to Arthur's gentle prompting to send evidence that our fleet sail really happened.
>?
>In the first picture, Steve Jacobs and I are preparing our boat for launch at Washington Park in Fidalgo Head, a few miles from Anacortes.
>?
>The second picture is yours truly with Steve in the background.? These were taken while crossing Rosario Straight on our way to the southern tip of Lopez Island.
>?
>It was an exciting, but not incident free trip.
>?
>Caesar Paul
>Gentle Breeze
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:37:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: R Orkin <roryorkin at verizon.net>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boids-- stinkin rotten boids
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Seems that the water birds love to sit on my boat on the lift and feast on
fish leaving all sorts of deposits and a total mess.. I have considered
putting a tarp over the boom sort of like a dodger to try and stop this.
Anyone have any other ideas ??
Rory
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Tilghman, Md
2000 Recycled Rhodes 22
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:40:38 -0400
From: John Lock <jlock at relevantarts.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my
new old Rhodes
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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FYI, that same concept can be used on the water. I converted to using
a boarding ladder hung over the side, rather than trying to negotiate/
modify the stern gear or disconnect it to get it out of the way. It's
much easier on the boarder and you don't have to reconnect and
readjust hardware to get under way. The folding ladder stores neatly
under the cockpit seats.
Cheers!
John Lock
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
Lake Sinclair, GA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On Jul 14, 2009, at 13:13, Caesar Paul wrote:
> Mary Lou,
>
> I am following the discussions, and you make a good point about
> loosening the back stay at anchor for greater ease of access to and
> from the cockpit.
>
> It is a workout for me stepping over the stern rail when working on
> my boat at home, and I often will place a step ladder next to the
> boat for some relief.
>
> Ron,
>
> You did a very nice job with that stern rail modification, and
> thanks for sharing it with us.
>
> Caesar
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:49:33 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my
new old Rhodes
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Caesar,
I suggested another item to Ron which might be of value for general consumption - when climbing the swim ladder, having a handhold when you get toward the top of the ladder and step onto the transom surface is mighty helpful for stability. A simple option could be to suspend a grip from the clew on a 2' or so cable or heavy line, with 6" SS tube piece oriented to be horizontal. I used a small tube piece from BR extras and it works like a charm. It just makes it a little more steady climbing into the boat.
Art
-----Original Message-----
>From: Caesar Paul <caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com>
>Sent: Jul 14, 2009 1:13 PM
>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my new old Rhodes
>
>Mary Lou,
>?
>I am following the discussions, and you make a good point about loosening the back stay at anchor for greater ease of access to and from the cockpit.
>?
>It is a workout for me stepping over the stern rail when working on my boat at home, and I often will place a step ladder next to the boat for some relief.
>?
>Ron,
>?
>You did a very nice job with that stern rail modification, and thanks for sharing it with us.
>?
>Caesar
>--- On Tue, 7/14/09, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:
>
>
>From: Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my new old Rhodes
>To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 6:35 AM
>
>
>Art's comment got me thinking about Ron's walk-through stern rail
>giving better access to the swim ladder and the obstacle still in
>place with the traveller. Ron says it's not so much of an obstacle
>but if it was still an obstacle for someone, it would not be hard at
>anchor to loosen the backstay adjuster and pull the starboard fastpin
>holding the traveller in place and letting it drop down. Not sure it
>would be necessary but it seems to me it would only take a minute to
>do it and a minute to get the boat back ready to sail.
>
>Mary Lou
>1991 R22? Fretless
>Rock Hall, MD
>
>
>At 09:27 PM 7/13/2009, you wrote:
>>Ron,
>>
>>Just look at this boat, and a '71.? At this pace we will still have
>>vintage craft when we are in our 90's.? Scary, isn't it?? If you can
>>see the second picture - as pedestrian as this may sound, what is
>>wrong with the 'almost a traveler' approach.? My sailing is not so
>>refined that the traveler bar is essential.? Ponder whether an
>>arrangement like that wouldn't be more workable for you and Linda,
>>especially with your impressive new swim ladder walkway.? Take that
>>a step further - what if you hung the clew onto the port aft shroud
>>(get the boom out of the way), used a clip-on for a rope traveler on
>>the stbd side (get the tripping obstacle out of the way) , and you
>>would have a dandy walk-thru (under the stbd aft shroud) directly
>>from the the swim ladder.
>>
>>Better find an aspirin...
>>
>>Art
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>> >From: John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net>
>> >Sent: Jul 13, 2009 9:04 PM
>> >To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I just got my new old Rhodes
>> >
>> >
>> >Hi Jeff,
>> >
>> > Congrats on your boat, I'm enclosing picts on my 71 which has the original
>> >rigging as far as I know. I have also run the lines from the mast to the
>> >cockpit for easier single handling. On port side I have a downhaul line, and
>> >a cunningham line. The starboard side is the main halyard and genoa furler.
>> >Enclosed are picts.
>> >
>> >John Shulick
>> >http://www.nabble.com/file/p24472095/DSCF0299.jpg
>> >http://www.nabble.com/file/p24472095/DSCF0300.jpg
>> >http://www.nabble.com/file/p24472095/DSCF0291.jpg
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:51:01 -0400
From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boids-- stinkin rotten boids
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Below is an excerpt from the archives (thread:Organic deck deposits,
http://www.nabble.com/Organic-deck-deposits-to21511058.html#a21549141).
I use Nixalite for birds, squirrels, etc. It is simple and it works really
well:
Why go to the trouble of using high tech, powered deterrents?
Just be a poor host to these birds and they will choose a more
comfortable boat to hang out. For years I have been successful
at ridding my R22. and several other sailboats. of cormorants
(sea crows) by using Nixalite bird spikes atop the mast
(http://www.nixalite.com/nixalitemodels.aspx).
Before raising the mast, drill a couple of small holes (1/8", I
think) as described in the Nixalite installation instructions in
the masthead (top) to secure the clips that hold a small portion
of the product to the masthead with short stainless self-tapping
screws. The spikes stick straight up when the mast is stepped
(be careful of VHF aerial and Windex, if so equipped) and do
not interfere with the sail. Additionally, I use a couple of pieces
of 20 to 30 pound test monofilament line strung from the mast
to the side stays, starting an inch or so above each spreader.
This prevents the birds from roosting on the top of the spreaders
as well.
Obviously, this does not work if the birds tend to sit on the
deck, rails, boom or bimini. For this problem, you may need
to be more creative or temporarily place monofilament line at
appropriate locations to be removed when the boat is occupied.
The time spent setting up and removing the deterrents is a
fraction of the time necessary to constantly clean up after the
birds.
Mike
s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
Nissequogue River, NY
----- Original Message -----
From: "R Orkin" <roryorkin at verizon.net>
To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 4:37 PM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boids-- stinkin rotten boids
>
> Seems that the water birds love to sit on my boat on the lift and feast on
> fish leaving all sorts of deposits and a total mess.. I have considered
> putting a tarp over the boom sort of like a dodger to try and stop this.
> Anyone have any other ideas ??
> Rory
>
>
> -----
> Rory Orkin
> Tilghman, Md
> 2000 Recycled Rhodes 22
> Duet ll
> --
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:54:52 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my
new old Rhodes
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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John,
Be careful where you put the ladder if it is other than a rope ladder, which I suspect. Your boat had major hull rebuild by Rodger Rookie before I bought it from him, and there are some weak spots. Does that really work well, given that the hull is concave vs. convex?
Art
-----Original Message-----
>From: John Lock <jlock at relevantarts.com>
>Sent: Jul 14, 2009 4:40 PM
>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my new old Rhodes
>
>FYI, that same concept can be used on the water. I converted to using
>a boarding ladder hung over the side, rather than trying to negotiate/
>modify the stern gear or disconnect it to get it out of the way. It's
>much easier on the boarder and you don't have to reconnect and
>readjust hardware to get under way. The folding ladder stores neatly
>under the cockpit seats.
>
>Cheers!
>John Lock
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
>Lake Sinclair, GA
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>On Jul 14, 2009, at 13:13, Caesar Paul wrote:
>> Mary Lou,
>>
>> I am following the discussions, and you make a good point about
>> loosening the back stay at anchor for greater ease of access to and
>> from the cockpit.
>>
>> It is a workout for me stepping over the stern rail when working on
>> my boat at home, and I often will place a step ladder next to the
>> boat for some relief.
>>
>> Ron,
>>
>> You did a very nice job with that stern rail modification, and
>> thanks for sharing it with us.
>>
>> Caesar
>
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:56:22 -0400
From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boids-- stinkin rotten boids
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Rory,
Also, be careful with the materials used to clean up after the birds. Avoid
bleaches and abrasives since bleach is toxic to aquatic environments and
abrasives will harm the gel coat. If you want a "scouring powder", use
baking soda. To safely bleach, use hydrogen peroxide.
The following are some common alternatives to harsh chemicals:
Toxic product Alternative
----------------- -------------
Detergent and soap Fresh water and a lot of elbow grease
Bleach Hydrogen peroxide
Scouring powders Baking soda or salt
Floor cleaner ? cup of white vinegar in 2 liters of
water
Window cleaner 1 cup of white vinegar in 1 liter warm water
Varnish cleaner Wipe with ? cup of vinegar and ? cup
water solution
Head cleaner Brush with baking soda
Shower cleaner Wet surface, use scouring cloth with
baking soda
Aluminum cleaner Use 2 tablespoons cream of tartar in 1 liter
of water
Chrome cleaner/ polish Apple cider vinegar to clean, baby oil to
polish
Fiberglass stain remover Baking soda paste
Drain Opener Disassemble and replace; avoid toxic
products
Mildew Remover Paste of equal parts lemon juice and salt
Wood polish Use 3 parts olive oil and 1 part white
wine vinegar;
almond or olive oil (interior
unvarnished wood
only)
Mike
s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
Nissequogue River, NY
----- Original Message -----
From: "R Orkin" <roryorkin at verizon.net>
To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 4:37 PM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boids-- stinkin rotten boids
>
> Seems that the water birds love to sit on my boat on the lift and feast on
> fish leaving all sorts of deposits and a total mess.. I have considered
> putting a tarp over the boom sort of like a dodger to try and stop this.
> Anyone have any other ideas ??
> Rory
>
>
> -----
> Rory Orkin
> Tilghman, Md
> 2000 Recycled Rhodes 22
> Duet ll
> --
> View this message in context:
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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:02:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Caesar Paul <caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Two Pictures from the NW Fleet Sail
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Rummy,
?
As the picture shows, I give the more substantial life vest to my better half, and take a look at the cup out of which I have my beverage.?
?
?I have had an experience on our recent fleet sail which suggest that it takes quite a lot for one to leave the Rhodes cockpit involuntary.
?
Caesar
--- On Tue, 7/14/09, R22RumRunner at aol.com <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
From: R22RumRunner at aol.com <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Two Pictures from the NW Fleet Sail
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 12:09 PM
Caesar,
What is with the whimpy looking life vest. Do you really think you might?
fall overboard.....out of a Rhodes? And where is the rum filled alcoholic
adult? beverage that's supposed to be in your empty hand? You really have a lot
to? learn about proper sailing technique. I have a lot of work in front of
me.
Rummy
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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:04:18 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boids-- stinkin rotten boids
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Rory,
I built a bird cover a few months ago for Joe Williams' boat. While inexpensive, even heavy duty tarps will be a disappointment, maybe a few months or service before they fray and tear. I'd suggest Sunbrella, fitted if possible, fixed to the boom if possible to avoid material shifting. It is not an easy application but will work well if done right. Same suggestion on the foredeck, which is a most likely target. Sunbrella is easily cleaned, although much more expensive.
I can provide more detail if you reach me off-list.
Chow,
Art
-----Original Message-----
>From: R Orkin <roryorkin at verizon.net>
>Sent: Jul 14, 2009 4:37 PM
>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boids-- stinkin rotten boids
>
>
>Seems that the water birds love to sit on my boat on the lift and feast on
>fish leaving all sorts of deposits and a total mess.. I have considered
>putting a tarp over the boom sort of like a dodger to try and stop this.
>Anyone have any other ideas ??
> Rory
>
>
>-----
>Rory Orkin
>Tilghman, Md
>2000 Recycled Rhodes 22
>Duet ll
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>View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Boids---stinkin-rotten-boids-tp24486963p24486963.html
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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:13:57 -0400
From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] raising the mast
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Richard,
Congratulations on raising the mast and being successful! Which way did
you end up doing it? Can't comment on your sail issue, I have a
standard main. - rob
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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Richard
MacArthur
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 4:16 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] raising the mast
Well I got it done for the first time. There was me with my 75 year old
bones, my co- owner with his 150 pounds and my 6 foot 4 inch 250 pound
son in law. I didn't feel much weight while pushing up nor did my co-
owner so I may have found that mythical "one man" who could do it by
himself (he was a shotputter in college).
Finally got out for a sail on Sunday and was happy with the way the boat
sails. I've owned a lot of different sailboats and this one sails with
the best of them. I had light to medium winds. Looks like it will have
lee helm in very light winds and balance almost hands off in medium
winds. I have the mast raked back a little and could rake it back some
more if the lee helm were a problem but I like it the way it is.
I had to have the mainsail repaired before I launched the boat (named
Eagle's Wing ). The luff of the main had rotted for about 2 inches.
This must be that which is exposed to the sun when the sail is furled
inside the mast. Has anyone else had this problem? The repair was to put
a patch on the entire length of the luff and I'd like to protect the
furled main from the sun if there were an easy way to do this. On the
other hand maybe it's not a problem. I don't know how long the mast with
the sail inside might have sat on land uncovered and that won't happen
again. Happy sailing, Richard.
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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:18:14 -0400
From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my
new old Rhodes
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John,
What type of boarding ladder are you using? - rob
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Lock
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 4:41 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my
new old Rhodes
FYI, that same concept can be used on the water. I converted to using
a boarding ladder hung over the side, rather than trying to negotiate/
modify the stern gear or disconnect it to get it out of the way. It's
much easier on the boarder and you don't have to reconnect and
readjust hardware to get under way. The folding ladder stores neatly
under the cockpit seats.
Cheers!
John Lock
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
Lake Sinclair, GA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On Jul 14, 2009, at 13:13, Caesar Paul wrote:
> Mary Lou,
>
> I am following the discussions, and you make a good point about
> loosening the back stay at anchor for greater ease of access to and
> from the cockpit.
>
> It is a workout for me stepping over the stern rail when working on
> my boat at home, and I often will place a step ladder next to the
> boat for some relief.
>
> Ron,
>
> You did a very nice job with that stern rail modification, and
> thanks for sharing it with us.
>
> Caesar
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Message: 23
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:24:13 -0400
From: John Lock <jlock at relevantarts.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my
new old Rhodes
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Yes, I am aware of where some of the repairs are located and it hasn't
been a problem so far. The ladder I am using is a standard boarding
ladder with 6" standoffs. This seems to offset the hull curvature
nicely and the ladder stays vertical as you climb out. The boat does
heel over a little when you put your weight on the ladder. But it's
not a lot and if you had anybody already on board they can sit
opposite to counterbalance.
The only hard part is the same as you mentioned about coming over the
stern. It helps to have a handhold above your head to hoist yourself
the last bit over the side. I can grab the handrail to do that, but
I'm reasonably agile. I like your idea of a suspended "trapeze" to
grab. That would make the whole trip even easier.
Cheers!
John Lock
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
Lake Sinclair, GA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On Jul 14, 2009, at 16:54, Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote:
> John,
>
> Be careful where you put the ladder if it is other than a rope
> ladder, which I suspect. Your boat had major hull rebuild by Rodger
> Rookie before I bought it from him, and there are some weak spots.
> Does that really work well, given that the hull is concave vs. convex?
>
> Art
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: John Lock <jlock at relevantarts.com>
>> Sent: Jul 14, 2009 4:40 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got
>> my new old Rhodes
>>
>> FYI, that same concept can be used on the water. I converted to
>> using
>> a boarding ladder hung over the side, rather than trying to
>> negotiate/
>> modify the stern gear or disconnect it to get it out of the way.
>> It's
>> much easier on the boarder and you don't have to reconnect and
>> readjust hardware to get under way. The folding ladder stores neatly
>> under the cockpit seats.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> John Lock
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
>> Lake Sinclair, GA
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>> On Jul 14, 2009, at 13:13, Caesar Paul wrote:
>>> Mary Lou,
>>>
>>> I am following the discussions, and you make a good point about
>>> loosening the back stay at anchor for greater ease of access to and
>>> from the cockpit.
>>>
>>> It is a workout for me stepping over the stern rail when working on
>>> my boat at home, and I often will place a step ladder next to the
>>> boat for some relief.
>>>
>>> Ron,
>>>
>>> You did a very nice job with that stern rail modification, and
>>> thanks for sharing it with us.
>>>
>>> Caesar
>>
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Message: 24
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:42:01 -0400
From: Stephen Staum <staum at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] bilge water, or taking a leak
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Better still, I scrapped the electric pump & added a foot pump in the
line to the sink. It is better than a hand pump for washing both
hands & @ 1 oz per pump a full tank lasts all season.
SS
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On Jul 14, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
> Joe,
>
> You can get a faucet with a hand pump option to save your lungs for
> breathing.
>
> Rick
>
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Joe Babb <joe.babb at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>> With all the talk about leaks and water in the bilge, I thought I'd
>> share another source just in case anybody else was having this
>> "problem". Our boat was recycled last year. From time to time, I
>> noticed water in either the bilge or in the laz. Experiments showed
>> that it was not from rain. Was it the CB cap? To make a long story
>> short after some further detective work I found that it was from the
>> built-in water tank. This water tank is located forward of the
>> portapotty. It has a 1/2" hose barb connection at the very top, aft
>> corner. If you fill this tank with water, and then go sailing
>> where you
>> are heeled over to starboard for a while (like on Pamlico Sound a
>> couple
>> of weeks ago) then the tank quietly empties into the bilge.
>> The fix:
>> Take a 3' piece of 1/2" tubing, stick on the hose barb, tie-wrap the
>> tubing to the water fill hose. No more "leaks".
>> Joe
>>
>> p.s. the other problem you can run into with this tank and associated
>> pump is that if it is fairly empty and you sail heeled over to port,
>> then the hose from the tank to the pump may get an air lock and the
>> pump
>> won't pump water. If you've got enough air in your lungs you can
>> blow
>> on the above mentioned tube to force water up to the pump again.
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Message: 25
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:42:17 -0400
From: Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boids-- stinkin rotten boids
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The boat next to me has a Nixalite "Predator Eyes" balloon hanging from a
spreader. It is a great perch for the harbor swallows.
I've had some success keeping birds off sheets and rails by hanging from
them old CDs or DVDs by a shoestring. Be sure they are located sort of
north of where the birds sit so the reflected sunlight flashes toward the
birds.
Rick
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com>wrote:
> Below is an excerpt from the archives (thread:Organic deck deposits,
> http://www.nabble.com/Organic-deck-deposits-to21511058.html#a21549141).
> I use Nixalite for birds, squirrels, etc. It is simple and it works really
> well:
>
> Why go to the trouble of using high tech, powered deterrents?
> Just be a poor host to these birds and they will choose a more
> comfortable boat to hang out. For years I have been successful
> at ridding my R22. and several other sailboats. of cormorants
> (sea crows) by using Nixalite bird spikes atop the mast
> (http://www.nixalite.com/nixalitemodels.aspx).
>
> Before raising the mast, drill a couple of small holes (1/8", I
> think) as described in the Nixalite installation instructions in
> the masthead (top) to secure the clips that hold a small portion
> of the product to the masthead with short stainless self-tapping
> screws. The spikes stick straight up when the mast is stepped
> (be careful of VHF aerial and Windex, if so equipped) and do
> not interfere with the sail. Additionally, I use a couple of pieces
> of 20 to 30 pound test monofilament line strung from the mast
> to the side stays, starting an inch or so above each spreader.
> This prevents the birds from roosting on the top of the spreaders
> as well.
>
> Obviously, this does not work if the birds tend to sit on the
> deck, rails, boom or bimini. For this problem, you may need
> to be more creative or temporarily place monofilament line at
> appropriate locations to be removed when the boat is occupied.
> The time spent setting up and removing the deterrents is a
> fraction of the time necessary to constantly clean up after the
> birds.
>
> Mike
> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "R Orkin" <roryorkin at verizon.net>
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 4:37 PM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boids-- stinkin rotten boids
>
>
> >
> > Seems that the water birds love to sit on my boat on the lift and feast
> on
> > fish leaving all sorts of deposits and a total mess.. I have considered
> > putting a tarp over the boom sort of like a dodger to try and stop this.
> > Anyone have any other ideas ??
> > Rory
> >
> >
> > -----
> > Rory Orkin
> > Tilghman, Md
> > 2000 Recycled Rhodes 22
> > Duet ll
> > --
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Message: 26
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:49:17 -0400
From: Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Two Pictures from the NW Fleet Sail
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Caesar,
The mast-up vs mast-down comparison is neat picture. You ought to be able
to sign a 100 page contract with Stan to use that on his site.
Rick
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Caesar Paul <caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> I am responding to Arthur's gentle prompting to send evidence that our
> fleet sail really happened.
>
> In the first picture, Steve Jacobs and I are preparing our boat for launch
> at Washington Park in Fidalgo Head, a few miles from Anacortes.
>
> The second picture is yours truly with Steve in the background. These were
> taken while crossing Rosario Straight on our way to the southern tip of
> Lopez Island.
>
> It was an exciting, but not incident free trip.
>
> Caesar Paul
> Gentle Breeze
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Message: 27
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:25:31 -0500
From: Ellner <ellner at pressenter.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my
new old Rhodes
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Hi everyone,
I missed seeing the "walkthru" picture of the stern rail. Would someone
direct me to it.
I just replaced the IMF bottom bearing from the 1987 version to the
newer version with the bearing sleeves. It is a great improvement.
Much easer to operate.
Thanks
Rod Ellner
Toy Blew 1987/2009
Caesar Paul wrote:
> Mary Lou,
>
> I am following the discussions, and you make a good point about loosening the back stay at anchor for greater ease of access to and from the cockpit.
>
> It is a workout for me stepping over the stern rail when working on my boat at home, and I often will place a step ladder next to the boat for some relief.
>
> Ron,
>
> You did a very nice job with that stern rail modification, and thanks for sharing it with us.
>
> Caesar
> --- On Tue, 7/14/09, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:
>
>
> From: Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Walk-through stern rail Re: I just got my new old Rhodes
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 6:35 AM
>
>
> Art's comment got me thinking about Ron's walk-through stern rail
> giving better access to the swim ladder and the obstacle still in
> place with the traveller. Ron says it's not so much of an obstacle
> but if it was still an obstacle for someone, it would not be hard at
> anchor to loosen the backstay adjuster and pull the starboard fastpin
> holding the traveller in place and letting it drop down. Not sure it
> would be necessary but it seems to me it would only take a minute to
> do it and a minute to get the boat back ready to sail.
>
> Mary Lou
> 1991 R22 Fretless
> Rock Hall, MD
>
>
> At 09:27 PM 7/13/2009, you wrote:
>
>> Ron,
>>
>> Just look at this boat, and a '71. At this pace we will still have
>> vintage craft when we are in our 90's. Scary, isn't it? If you can
>> see the second picture - as pedestrian as this may sound, what is
>> wrong with the 'almost a traveler' approach. My sailing is not so
>> refined that the traveler bar is essential. Ponder whether an
>> arrangement like that wouldn't be more workable for you and Linda,
>> especially with your impressive new swim ladder walkway. Take that
>> a step further - what if you hung the clew onto the port aft shroud
>> (get the boom out of the way), used a clip-on for a rope traveler on
>> the stbd side (get the tripping obstacle out of the way) , and you
>> would have a dandy walk-thru (under the stbd aft shroud) directly
>>
> >from the the swim ladder.
>
>> Better find an aspirin...
>>
>> Art
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>>> From: John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net>
>>> Sent: Jul 13, 2009 9:04 PM
>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I just got my new old Rhodes
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>
>>> Congrats on your boat, I'm enclosing picts on my 71 which has the original
>>> rigging as far as I know. I have also run the lines from the mast to the
>>> cockpit for easier single handling. On port side I have a downhaul line, and
>>> a cunningham line. The starboard side is the main halyard and genoa furler.
>>> Enclosed are picts.
>>>
>>> John Shulick
>>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p24472095/DSCF0299.jpg
>>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p24472095/DSCF0300.jpg
>>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p24472095/DSCF0291.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Message: 28
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:31:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Caesar Paul <caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Two Pictures from the NW Fleet Sail
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Rick,
?
I think you are right; there is value in that picture for Stan, and the owner of the picture.
?
Your remark reminds me of another story.? Earlier this summer I trailered to Fern Ridge Lake in Eugene, OR.; a 9 hour drive from home, with stops.??Early next morning a fellow sailor?came by and started chatting and asking questions about the boat?while I was?readying the boat for rigging and launching.? At some point in the process he said goodbye and left.
?
The next morning the good fellow came up?to?me and asked how I hoisted the mask, for from a distance he saw me raising it alone from the bow by turning some handle.?(smile) It was then I got the complete picture, which still causes me to laugh when I think about it.??Apparently the guy made a hasty departure the day before because he either did not want to help me lift the IMF mast, or was curious to see how I would manage it alone.?? Being impressed and or somewhat?puzzled by the process, he sought me out?at the marina the next morning to ask how?I did it.
?
I"m still smiling about that experience.
?
Caesar
Gentle Breeze???
--- On Tue, 7/14/09, Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
From: Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Two Pictures from the NW Fleet Sail
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 4:49 PM
Caesar,
The mast-up vs mast-down comparison is neat picture.? You ought to be able
to sign a 100 page contract with Stan to use that on his site.
Rick
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Caesar Paul <caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> I am responding to Arthur's gentle prompting to send evidence that our
> fleet sail really happened.
>
> In the first picture, Steve Jacobs and I are preparing our boat for launch
> at Washington Park in Fidalgo Head, a few miles from Anacortes.
>
> The second picture is yours truly with Steve in the background.? These were
> taken while crossing Rosario Straight on our way to the southern tip of
> Lopez Island.
>
> It was an exciting, but not incident free trip.
>
> Caesar Paul
> Gentle Breeze
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