[Rhodes22-list] yamaha 9.9 trouble

Jay Friedland jsail1 at verizon.net
Sat Jun 13 07:38:00 EDT 2009 

Ben, Rob & I always listen for "small craft warnings" for our calling.  
The R22 in our bay is well-suited to adverse conditions. When we're  
together, I'll show you photos of our 60 mile trip around LBI that  
ended in a major storm with horizontal rain, horizontal lightning, and  
a water spout forming in the background towards Atlantic City. Rob at  
the helm looked like his namesake, Moses. We wouldn't have wanted to  
be in almost any other boat than the Rhodes in this. This "judge"  
thing has crimped some of his sailing time, but hope to catch up soon  
now that the primary's over.

Re: the crack, the fiberglassing has made it stronger than new, but I  
also have nylon web straps (like battery tie downs with brackets)  
around the top, and over the sides through the front of the shaft for  
extra security. My need for the linkage comes up quick with cross- 
currents and cross winds, I'd be lost without it.

Will see Rob next week and send your best. Look forward to getting  
together.
Jay


On Jun 12, 2009, at 11:51 PM, BenCittadino wrote:

>
> Yo Jay;
>
> The Susan Kay already has the "power thruster" (or something that  
> looks just
> like it). My rudder wouldn't still be intact without it. I love it.
>
> The location of the crack on my motor is exactly where you describe  
> yours
> which has loosened the whole connection between the motor cover and  
> the
> bottom half which makes the tiller connection very hairy. I'm  
> working with
> my marina outboard guy (they have an outboard guy and an inboard  
> guy, kind
> of like an otolaryngologist and a gastroenterologist I guess, but more
> expensive) on whether to repair or replace.
>
> The stalling was definitely the gas tank vent. Maybe I can ask our old
> friend Brad to send me one of those knee boards the pilots use so I  
> can run
> through a preflight checklist to minimize bonehead mistakes.
>
> My best to "Judge" Baldi. While I was waiting for delivery of my  
> boat last
> year he took me out in a gale (no joke, a real honest to goodness  
> gale) and
> I had to beg him to just motor and leave the sails furled. He is one  
> brave
> (read "crazy") sailor.
>
> I definitely need a lesson or six from you this summer.
>
> BenCittadino
>
>
>
>
> jsail wrote:
>>
>> Ben,
>> We will connect at some point. I had my motor cowl crack at the clip
>> near the front controls. After getting a replacement from Yamaha
>> quoted at a ridiculous $486, I spoke to Stan for a quick fix.
>> Fiberglassing was the answer with glass cloth as David recommended. I
>> sail and motor pretty hard a lot offshore, and always use the linkage
>> (8 years, 8-9 months a season). I consider it very robust.
>>
>> Several of us have been using the Powerthruster
>> <http://www.powerthruster.com/
>>> which in itself is pretty amazing, but as an added benefit protects
>> the rudder from getting hit by the prop without the linkage.
>>
>> I haven't kept up with the list much, but just try to get a looksee
>> when I can.
>>
>> Jay
>>
>> P.S. I keep my vent open all the time, but have a small plastic  
>> yogurt
>> cup with a 1"x1" opening to the back. During washdown and rain, it
>> stays protected from spray, which is critical to avoid with ethanol.
>>
>> On Jun 10, 2009, at 8:27 PM, BenCittadino wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks John and Dave for the really quick and eminently sensible
>>> replies.
>>>
>>> Dave, I'm afraid the answer to your question is that the cover is
>>> cracked
>>> and I should probably replace (can I?) or repair (dare I?) it. I'm
>>> concerned
>>> about whether I can relocate the little attachment "dohicky" on top
>>> of a new
>>> cover for the bar connecting the tiller to the engine, but also
>>> don't know
>>> if a repair of the cover is even possible. I like your idea of only
>>> using
>>> the connection for really tight quarters. If I ever get it fixed
>>> that's what
>>> I'll do.
>>>
>>> Ben
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> David Bradley wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ben, it sounds like a similar problem I had my first year with my
>>>> Yamaha 9.9.  I finally had to bite the bullet and have a good
>>>> mechanic
>>>> clean the jets.  You might luck out by using fresh gas (one  
>>>> mechanic
>>>> told me this year that with the new ethanol mix we should use fresh
>>>> gas every week) and just running the motor until the clean gas
>>>> dissolves the crud.
>>>>
>>>> I only use the tiller-motor linkage in the marina for tight turns  
>>>> and
>>>> damage avoidance.  The boat steers much easier with the motor
>>>> locked -
>>>> much less strain on everything.
>>>>
>>>> Are you saying your engine case has actually cracked, or you're
>>>> worried it might?
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 4:36 PM, BenCittadino<bencittadino at gmail.com 
>>>> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So the S/V Susan Kay (93R-recycled08) is in the water for the  
>>>>> next 4
>>>>> months
>>>>> after a winter in a cradle. She started right up and ran
>>>>> magnificently
>>>>> for
>>>>> about a half an hour as we motored the few miles out the
>>>>> Shrewsbury River
>>>>> (NJ) around to Sandy Hook Bay where she has a slip. However, as we
>>>>> cruised
>>>>> along at medium to low power (fog & rain) the four stroke 9.9  
>>>>> Yamaha
>>>>> began
>>>>> to die, fought alittle to keep running and quit. Attempt to  
>>>>> restart
>>>>> (electrical) immediately succeeded, and she ran beautifully for  
>>>>> ten
>>>>> minutes
>>>>> then sputtered and quit again. She restarted on the first push of
>>>>> the
>>>>> button, but died once more before we got her safely tied up in her
>>>>> slip.
>>>>> I'm
>>>>> at a loss except to say the gas was from last summer with plenty  
>>>>> of
>>>>> Stay-bil. The engine had an oil change and was prepped by the  
>>>>> marina
>>>>> where I
>>>>> stored her over the winter. They weren't worried about the gas (I
>>>>> asked).
>>>>> Why would she start like a champ, purr like a kitten, then sputter
>>>>> and
>>>>> die
>>>>> only to restart immediately?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm also becoming concerned about the engine cover cracking some
>>>>> as it
>>>>> appears the attachment to the tiller is stressing the cover (I'm
>>>>> trying
>>>>> to
>>>>> be gentle). I'm considering locking the engine along the
>>>>> centerline and
>>>>> steering with the rudder alone.
>>>>>
>>>>> As a rookie sailor I must say I get a small charge out of the
>>>>> bridge
>>>>> tender
>>>>> answering my call on channel 13 by calling me "Captain", but I'm
>>>>> told I
>>>>> am
>>>>> easily entertained. Looking forward to a great summer, but
>>>>> considering
>>>>> chucking the motor altogether.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> BenCittadino
>>>>> Highlands, NJ
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>>>> +1.206.234.3977
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