[Rhodes22-list] too windy--Now Centeboard Effect

cowie ccowie at cowieassociates.com
Tue Jun 23 11:41:56 EDT 2009


Lee:

I hope to get out sailing this Friday and Saturday.  I found a number of
discusions from the group on close haul sailing and what angle is reasonable
to be able to point in to the wind.  lots of variables, wind speed, chop,
genoa sheet location, sail size, centerboard position etc....  I
experimented a bit tacking back and forth in about 8kts of wind with all
sail up and sheets outside the stays and I seemed to get about 100 degrees
tack to tack or 50 degrees off the wind.  Plan to test this some more
adjusting all the variables.



Leland wrote:
> 
> Chris,
> 
> So far this season has been too wet & windy for many good sailing days,
> but it doesn't sound like that's stopped you too much.  I should have
> knocked on wood when I said there are a lot of days with little wind
> around here in the summer.  Yesterday evening the wind prediction dropped
> from 16 mph winds to 9 to 11, which is just perfect for me.  When I
> started out the actual wind was only 4 knots and immediately dropped to
> about 2 knots for over an hour.  It eventually picked up to 6 knots about
> the time I had to go in.
> 
> Per Stan's sailing tutorial, you need the centerboard down in light wind
> more than heavy, if you want to make any progress into the wind.  I never
> actually measured the effect of the centerboard but it seemed like it
> helped about 10 degrees and at worst caused a half knot decrease in speed
> due to drag.
> 
> With little current and no chop at 1.2 knots I raised the centerboard and
> the boat came off the wind exactly 20 degrees and sped up to 2.2 knots.  I
> was surprised.  Later I had the board down at 2.4 knots and again I lost
> 20 degrees and sped up 1 knot when I raised the board.  I still assume
> that performance would be less affected at higher speeds, but I wasn't
> expecting the signficant difference caused by the board.  Really makes you
> think about the drag caused by keels.  Even if you're racing an
> experienced J-22 skipper, in light winds you might have a noticeable
> advantage against her fixed keel.
> 
> Lee
> 
> 
> 
> cowie wrote:
>> 
>> Lee:
>> 
>> I did go down to the boat on Saturday for a couple of hours but did not
>> venture out into the bay.  I finaly figured out how to remove the clevis
>> pin form the furling headsail in order to tighten up the forward stay.  I
>> also noticed the turnbuckle didn't have any pins so I added to a piece of
>> wire to prevent it from opening up.  I also added pins to all the other
>> stays to keep them in place.
>> 
>> So far I have been just day sailing pretty much like you, heading in
>> whatever direction provides the best day sail.  With as much wind as we
>> have had so far this season I have had fun trying all different sail
>> combinations.  With the wind blowing above 15 kts I typicaly head up wind
>> as much as possible, lower the boom and bring the jib sheets inside the
>> spreaders, then turn around and come back.  I am hoping to take an
>> overnight trip soon perhaps to St. Michaels.
>> 
>> 
>> Leland wrote:
>>> 
>>> Chris,
>>> 
>>> Saturday was too wet and Sunday was consumed with Father's Day stuff. 
>>> Sunday was too windy for my enjoyment but I wanted to go out just for
>>> the high-wind experience.  I think the forecast was around 20 mph, but
>>> the chop and gusts probably made it more work than fun.
>>> 
>>> As a daysailor, my only destination is the marina at the end of the
>>> sailing day.  If the winds are less than 5 knots, my tacks are usually
>>> on close reaches out and back just to keep moving.  Sometimes I'll motor
>>> downwind at the end of the day just to get back quickly.  For winds
>>> between 5-10 knots I usually go wherever I like since it's easy to get
>>> back home.  Beyond 10 knots I typically go into the wind as much as
>>> possible.  Boom and board down with sheets run inside the shrouds.  It's
>>> a much smoother sail heading into the chop and it's an easy return home
>>> on a run or broad reach when you have a strong wind.
>>> 
>>> Did you go out over the weekend or decide it wasn't worth it?  Saturday
>>> evening we thought we saw a Rhodes between the Severn and bay bridge on
>>> the western shore side.
>>> 
>>> Lee
>>> 1986 Rhodes22  At Ease
>>> Kent Island, MD
>>> 
>>> 
>>> cowie wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Did anyone sail on the chesapeake bay this weekend?  Too many storms
>>>> and wind for me.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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