[Rhodes22-list] Cowl Vent
Mary Lou Troy
mtroy at atlanticbb.net
Sun Jun 28 21:52:49 EDT 2009
Rick,
I agree with you on the bow pulpit and I also love the fact that the
boat has a solid well designed toe rail to brace against. My issue
with the foredeck is the lack of handholds forward of the mast. It
doesn't matter in the usual conditions when we are anchoring but it
can be downright scary in heavier conditions.
Where do you fasten your jacklines? We don't singlehand but if we
did, harnesses would be on the list. When it comes time to replace
our old inflatable pfds we may want to look at the inflatables with a
built in harness.
Mary Lou
At 09:04 PM 6/28/2009, you wrote:
>Hi Mary Lou,
>
>Well, I never have to look for my anchor since it hangs from the bow
>pulpit. Once I get myself cozy in the bow pulpit, there is minimal physical
>effort to dropping or pulling up the anchor.
>
>You're right about jacklines, tethers and harnesses. Even in the best
>conditions, I wear my harness and tether to the mast or bow cleat when going
>forward single handed. When I know it might be rough, I deploy jacklines.
>
>Rick
>
>On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:
>
> > Hi Rick,
> > Count us among those with the anchor in the cockpit. Under the
> > conditions you describe, I would be unhappy with anyone on the
> > foredeck for any reason. There simply aren't enough handholds and few
> > of us have jacklines rigged and harnesses. It would seem to me that
> > the safest approach to those conditions would be to prepare for them
> > before leaving the dock which would involve snubbing the anchor rode
> > to the foredeck cleat and leading it back to the cockpit so that the
> > anchor could still be deployed from there. It's not an ideal solution
> > and we've never done it. We've only once been out in really heavy
> > winds and fortunately while it was sudden, it was very brief and
> > waves did not have time to build.
> >
> > We have deployed the anchor under emergency conditions (motor failed
> > current sweeping us back towards a drawbridge) but it didn't involve
> > waves. Under those less extreme conditions it was easy enough to take
> > the anchor forward, snub the bitter end and deploy it. It was
> > probably as fast or faster than fishing out the rode and connecting
> > it to the anchor. We do make sure that the anchor is available in the
> > lazarette with nothing stowed on top of it before we leave the dock.
> >
> > Best,
> > Mary Lou
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 10:38 AM 6/28/2009, you wrote:
> > >Jerry,
> > >
> > >That sounds fine for a peaceful inlet. But how would that work when the
> > >motor is almost full out trying to keep the boat into the wind which,
> > along
> > >with five foot waves, is pushing you toward the rocks while you and any
> > crew
> > >have turned green?
> > >
> > >Rick
> > >
> > >On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 9:14 AM, <cjlowe at sssnet.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I like to keep my fortress anchor under the starboard seat in a
> > rubbermaid
> > > > container and deploy it off the starboard side,let out all but 20 feet
> > of
> > > > the scope I want out. Then I cleat it and power down on it,let off,and
> > > > then uncleat it , walk the small coil of rode left,around the outside
> > of
> > > > the shrouds to the bow,and cleat it off.
> > > >
> > > > Jerry Lowe
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Attached is the best picture I could find that shows how I drape the
> > > > > anchor
> > > > > chain. It doesn't make any noise and I prefer handy to classy
> > looking.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rummy
> > > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 6/27/2009 1:54:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > > > > sloopblueheron at gmail.com writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > OK Rummy, you caught me on one point. I do sometimes lug from the
> > > > > cockpit
> > > > > the" smelly rag" used to wipe down tackle that can't be cleaned by
> > > > > swishing
> > > > > it around in the water. And if admiral complaints of smell from the
> > > > > anchor
> > > > > locker seem likely, I just stuff in a sheet of Bounce (that's not in
> > the
> > > > > admiral, but in the locker.)
> > > > >
> > > > > I've been on a boat that has the anchor chain draped around the
> > anchor.
> > > > > It
> > > > > is pretty noisy in the slightest waves and not the classy look I
> > wish
> > > > to
> > > > > maintain. My cowl collar is removable and, as you can tell from the
> > > > > pictures, the vent frame has not been damaged by passing the chain in
> > > > and
> > > > > out. (Part of my classy look is to maintain sobriety when handling
> > > > > anchor
> > > > > tackle.)
> > > > >
> > > > > As for the venturi effect, I've found the scoop effect more
> > effective.
> > > > > But
> > > > > whatever works best for you.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rick
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 10:42 AM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Gentleman,
> > > > >> Leave the chain attached to the anchor and drape it around it so it
> > is
> > > > >> always handy. Pulling the chain out of the locker is unnecessary
> > and
> > > > >> creates
> > > > >> wear and tear on the cowl collar. From a scientific standpoint, the
> > > > >> cowl
> > > > > is
> > > > >> designed to work best with it facing away from the wind direction.
> > This
> > > > >> eliminates any water from entering and creates more ventilation.
> > It's
> > > > >> all
> > > > >> based
> > > > >> on the venturi effect. Carrying a plastic basket from the cockpit
> > to
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> bow and connecting it to the anchor chain is a lot less work than
> > > > > trying
> > > > >> to
> > > > >> pull and stuff crap through the cowl vent. All the water and mess
> > from
> > > > > the
> > > > >> anchor line stays in the cockpit and not in the cabin. Many areas
> > > > >> don't
> > > > >> have nice sandy bottoms so the anchor line will start to smell
> > just
> > > > >> like
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> bottom conditions. Your admiral will not appreciate that damp
> > muddy
> > > > > flats
> > > > >> bottom crap smell being in her cabin.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Rummy
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> In a message dated 6/26/2009 7:33:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > > > >> sloopblueheron at gmail.com writes:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Lee,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Yes, I use it to store and deploy the rode and chain through the
> > hole.
> > > > > I
> > > > >> think taking the locker in and out would be worse than retrieving
> > > > >> tackle
> > > > >> from the cockpit.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I disconnect the chain for storage. Since my hand just fits
> > through
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> hole, and I'm afraid of breaking my wrist during a rock 'n roll, I
> > use
> > > > >> a
> > > > >> messenger line tied to the cap to start pulling stuff out. I'm
> > > > > re-posting
> > > > >> pictures from a few months ago of how I do that. You can't see
> > the
> > > > >> mono-filament messenger line very well, but it is tied to the big
> > loop
> > > > > in
> > > > >> the rode.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> To dry out the locker, point the scoop into the wind when there is
> > no
> > > > >> water
> > > > >> in the wind. I generally use a cap when there is no need to
> > ventilate
> > > > > the
> > > > >> locker or v-berth. Also, if you want to ventilate the v-berth
> > when
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> wind
> > > > >> is wet--no problem because the water will just collect in the
> > locker
> > > > >> and
> > > > >> dry
> > > > >> out later.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Rick
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Leland <LKUHN at cnmc.org> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Rick,
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Do you use the anchor rode locker? If so, what technique do you
> > use
> > > > > to
> > > > >> get
> > > > >> > the rode in and out of the locker. I'd prefer to use it as
> > > > >> designed
> > > > > if
> > > > >> > there's some easy way to do it. I even thought about taking the
> > > > > locker
> > > > >> in
> > > > >> > and out with each use but I didn't want to disconnect the anchor
> > > > >> from
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> > rode.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I think someone on this list said that the vent scoop is
> > designed to
> > > > >> face
> > > > >> > aft away from the wind. Mine has always faced forward. Should
> > I
> > > > > turn
> > > > >> it
> > > > >> > around?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Thanks!
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Lee
> > > > >> > 1986 Rhodes22 At Ease
> > > > >> > Kent Island, MD
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Rick-139 wrote:
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Cowie,
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > The cowl vent should swivel so you can turn it into the wind.
> > Do
> > > > > you
> > > > >> > have
> > > > >> > > a
> > > > >> > > nylon screen covering the ring? If not, cutting one to fit
> > will
> > > > >> tighten
> > > > >> > > the
> > > > >> > > vent plus keep out the bugs.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > The vent should ventilate a triangular anchor rode locker
> > under
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> deck.
> > > > >> > > Replacing the cowl vent with a fixed fan would prevent you
> > from
> > > > > using
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> > > locker. However, there are some people on the list who prefer
> > to
> > > > > lug
> > > > >> > > their
> > > > >> > > anchor tackle from the cockpit. If you want to join them, the
> > fan
> > > > >> vent
> > > > >> > > will
> > > > >> > > give you better day time ventilation in the the v-berth.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Rick
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 5:01 PM, cowie
> > > > >> <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
> > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> I have a 3" cowl vent on the bow and like the functional
> > quality
> > > > >> of
> > > > >> it
> > > > >> > >> but
> > > > >> > >> have a couple of questions.
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> The cowl vent slips onto a plastic ring that slips into a
> > deck
> > > > >> fitting.
> > > > >> > >> Looks like the plastic ring and cowl vent are removable and
> > can
> > > > >> be
> > > > >> > >> replaced
> > > > >> > >> with a plastic cover that seals the deck opening while the
> > deck
> > > > >> fitting
> > > > >> > >> remains in place. Recently the cowl vent has come loose
> > from
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> > plastic
> > > > >> > >> ring. Is the cowl vent supposed to be able to turn around the
> > > > > plastic
> > > > >> > >> ring
> > > > >> > >> in order to face the prevailing wind or is the cowl vent
> > supposed
> > > > > to
> > > > >> be
> > > > >> > >> glued to the plastic ring and the ring is supposed to turn in
> > the
> > > > >> deck
> > > > >> > >> fitting? The cowl vento portion is so loose I worry it might
> > go
> > > > >> > >> overboard.
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> I found Nicro makes a 3" solor day/night fan. Has anyone
> > > > >> installed
> > > > >> this
> > > > >> > >> and
> > > > >> > >> can it be easly replaced with the cowl vent? I like the idea
> > of
> > > > >> being
> > > > >> > >> able
> > > > >> > >> to use both options but don't know if they are easily
> > > > > interchangable.
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> I also see that Nicro makes a standard 3" screen. Can this
> > be
> > > > >> insterted
> > > > >> > >> while the cowl vent is in place?
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> Thanks
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >>
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