[Rhodes22-list] Long details re: a trailering experience

[Eric Sandberg]

Claude,

The "sweet spot" will vary with the amount of stuff in the back of the boat.
The more stuff in the back of the boat, the further it will need to be ahead
on the trailer. If the boat is too heavy behind the trailer axle, it will
always fish-tail. When this happens, you need to take the heavy stuff out of
the cockpit and move it into the cabin to increase the tongue weight. I used
to take the rudder and motor off. Rudder went in the cabin and the motor
went in the back of the truck. I understand that if you are using the 9.9 or
8 horse Yamaha or any of the heavier motors, taking them off all the time is
difficult at best. If you can't remove that weight from the transom, you
WILL have to get the boat further ahead on the trailer to make up for that
weight in the stern.

Rik

On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:

> Claude,
> As Rummy said, we've talked about this before, which is fine.  I believe
> the correct position is to have the rear most porthole over the axis (single
> axis trailer).  I can't quite get my boat to that point, (back an inch or
> two), and I'm good to about 60 before I start to fish tail.  Next time I
> pull the boat I'm trying a different ans steeper ramp to see if I can get
> the boat more forward. - rob
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org on behalf of Mary Lou Troy
> Sent: Sat 5/2/2009 9:23 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Long details re: a trailering experience
>
> Re the sweet spot. We marked the moveable metal arm to which the bow
> stop is a attached with a painted line that indicated when the boat
> was properly on the trailer. With the boat properly positioned, we
> could move the bow stop up against the bow and the line would line up
> with the support for the bow stop arm. Not that we seem to trailer
> much any more.
>
> Mary Lou
> 1991 R22  Fretless
> Rock Hall, MD
>
>
> At 09:08 PM 5/2/2009, you wrote:
> >Claude,
> >
> >It is amazing how fast you can travel with your boat and trailer if
> >the tongue weight is just right.  The position of the boat on the
> >trailer affects tongue weight.  The further forward the boat sits on
> >the tongue trailer, the more tongue weight you have, the
> >less  fishtailing you would get.  The further back the boat sits on
> >the trailer, the less tongue you have and the fishtailing begins at
> >slower speeds, and gets worse as you accelerate.
> >
> >Mark the position of your boat as it sits on the trailer, and when
> >hauling it out of the water next time, ensure that it sits about 6
> >to 12 inches further forward and your fishtailing will be reduced,
> >if not eliminated.  I understand that a 10% of the weight you are
> >hauling should be tongue weight ball park figure.  There are those
> >on the list who can give you more precise information.  Bottom line:
> >if you are fishtailing your tongue weight is too light, and moving
> >the boat forward will increase tongue weight and decrease fishtailing.
> >
> >When you find the "sweet spot" please tell us.
> >
> >Caesar
> >
> >--- On Sat, 5/2/09, Claude Cox <ccc974 at comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >From: Claude Cox <ccc974 at comcast.net>
> >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Long details re: a trailering experience
> >To: "Rhodes22 list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Date: Saturday, May 2, 2009, 2:18 PM
> >
> >
> >Rummy (and anyone else who wants to respond);
> >
> >I pulled celtic Lass to L. Lanier a couple of days ago, in
> >preparation for a re-launch.  The trip was unforgetable, for all the
> >wrong reasons.  Trouble began at anything over 45 mph
> >--fish-tailing mainly.  I had the OB in the back of the tow vehicle
> >(Ford Explorer), and after several scary miles, I stopped and
> >mounted it on the back of the boat.  I thought that would solve the
> >problem, as the tow vehicle was sitting level.  NOT!  Still had to
> >stay at 45.  The harriest moment was when the boat began to fish
> >tail, and was on the verge of going out of control.  I managed to
> >slow down enough to correct the problem, and had no more scarry
> >moments.  The friend with me, and I held our collective breaths
> >until we   stopped at West Marine to get an item.  Before we left WM
> >we stood around discussing the situation.  Standing at the stern, we
> >were talking and looking at the rudder.  Then it hit me.  The rudder
> >was cocked to stbd, allowing several inches of it to extend beyond
> >the boat.  I  thought I knew what the problem was.  With the rudder
> >hanging out, it was catching the wind, and insisted on tacking the
> >boat to stbd,
> >  causing the fish-tailing.  Comments.......
> >
> >Claude
> >
> >s/v celtic Lass, 1986 R22, Lake Lanier, GA
> >
> >Life is too short to own an ugly boat.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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