[Rhodes22-list] advice needed from litigious Rhodies

[KUHN, LELAND]

Rick,

1,400 pounds (or l,l50 pounds)

http://www.macgregor26.com/water_ballast/water_ballast.htm

is the same weight no matter if it's lead or water.  The only real
difference is that lead takes up eleven times less space than water.
Our Rhodes sailboats have 700 pounds of ballast.  The lower the weight
the more the righting capability but weight is weight no matter if it's
water or lead.  Water ballast works, it just takes up eleven times more
space than lead.

I welcome disagreement from the physicists and engineers out there.

Lee
1986 Rhodes22  At Ease
Kent Island, MD

-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Arthur H.
Czerwonky
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 3:28 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] advice needed from litigious Rhodies

Rick,

Consider that the water adds 1400# to the ballast, other stability
questions not considered.  Validating the stability issue would be easy
- with mast and sail and ballast in place, pull the mast toward the
water and determine at what point the tension on the mast line zeroes
out.  If the tension remains, the boat will have a natural positive
righting moment.

This does not allow for the dumbie who, like others before, operate the
boat improperly or who cannot read the directions.

Macgregor will sell the new spreader assembly so that the mast can have
the stays properly aligned, GB might obtain for free as a professional
courtesy fm MacG.

Make sense?

Art

-----Original Message-----
>From: Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
>Sent: Nov 4, 2009 3:06 PM
>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] advice needed from litigious Rhodies
>
>Art,
>
>An IMF mast would probably cause a water ballast MacGregor to turtle.
>
>Please explain: "Stan no longer has new IMF capability."
>
>Rick
>
>On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Arthur H. Czerwonky
<czerwonky at earthlink.net
>> wrote:
>
>> Rick,
>>
>> I wonder who could know - a typical Catalina owner will be the best
judge.
>>  BTW, no secret that we can be helpful in promoting this if we have
posted
>> pictures and info.  I have toyed seriously with putting the IMF on a
>> MacGregor to test for stability.  Anyone who has had the thrill of
raising a
>> MacGregor mainsail from their awkward deck station would understand
the
>> value in this.  There are alot of Macgregor owners who would thirst
at this
>> prospect - talk about a market for the IMF.  I mention this knowing
that
>> Tootle certified that Stan no longer has new IMF capability.
Hopefully this
>> is not true.
>>
>> Art
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> >From: Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
>> >Sent: Nov 4, 2009 2:35 PM
>> >To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] advice needed from litigious Rhodies
>> >
>> >Stan,
>> >
>> >Doesn't sound any different than companies that supe up sports cars.
How
>> >much for the suped up Catalina?
>> >
>> >Rick
>> >
>> >On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:16 PM, stan <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> last time things got bad, to broaden our price marking base  we
went
>> into
>> >> recycling Rhodes
>> >>
>> >> this time, to broaden our base and not keep losing those prospects
who
>> want
>> >> a little bit bigger boat (since no Rhodes took us up on the Rhodes
27
>> >> projected) we bought a Catalina 25 and have torn it apart.   we
are
>> going to
>> >> try and make it into a Catalina-Rhodes hybrid:   IMF, combo
keel/cb,
>> >> electric tilting motor lift, etc.
>> >>
>> >> it is being sold as a used Catalina 25 that we have recycled and
>> upgraded.
>> >>    Can Frank butler (he owns Catalina) legally complain?
>> >>
>> >> ss
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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