[Rhodes22-list] advice needed from litigious Rhodies

[Chris Cowie]

Stan:

I think you can work around the legal issues probably as you suggest having owners bring their boats to you for after market modifications.  I also think this is a great business idea in order to create opportunities for your current staff and facilities to create more product for an expanding market.  I am concerned that if you are successful with this effort that Catalina might pick up on the idea and begin to offer many of the same ideas you are offering direct to their owners both for new and upgrade products.  Does it make sense to explore some sort of business agreement with Catalina that they agree to direct promote current owners looking for upgrades to General Boats and also offer new buyers the option of having General Boats products/design ideas incorporated into their new boats as options?  Not sure how you would want to work out the legal/financial parts of the deal and or the logistics of who and were new boat options are installed.  This partnering idea might allow you to expand your current business idea into a larger more protected market.  Catalina has a fairly impressive marketing program and clientele base that the R22 GB business could tap into.

http://www.catalinayachts.com/pdf/Bay_c250.pdf


Christopher P. Cowie    


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-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of stan
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 8:21 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] advice needed from litigious Rhodies

thanks for all the feedback - amazingly helpful - but some may have misread 
the program: We are merely buying used Catalinas for a conversion business - 
no thought of building molds and building boats from them..     that 
clarification may change some of the legal opinions ?   Ben's points do have 
us concerned since we are not doing this as a private party but as a 
commercial venture.   Would that concern be avoided if we took the position 
that each individual "buyer" brought their Catalina to us to alter?

ss

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Shulick" <jsbudda at verizon.net>
To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] advice needed from litigious Rhodies


>
> Stan,
>
> Rather than use a current model still in production, is there a 
> possibility
> of buying the molds for a hull that  is out of production and build the 
> boat
> up from scratch? If you own the molds would there then be a legal issue?
> I've heard the O'Day 26 was a fast boat for its size and the company is no
> more.
>
> John S
>
> PS Have you resolved the problem of dies for the IMF?
>
>
> stanleyl wrote:
>>
>> last time things got bad, to broaden our price marking base  we went into
>> recycling Rhodes
>>
>> this time, to broaden our base and not keep losing those prospects who
>> want a little bit bigger boat (since no Rhodes took us up on the Rhodes 
>> 27
>> projected) we bought a Catalina 25 and have torn it apart.   we are going
>> to try and make it into a Catalina-Rhodes hybrid:   IMF, combo keel/cb,
>> electric tilting motor lift, etc.
>>
>> it is being sold as a used Catalina 25 that we have recycled and 
>> upgraded.
>> Can Frank butler (he owns Catalina) legally complain?
>>
>> ss
>>
>>
>>
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