[Rhodes22-list] Was lift, Now Big Boat Fever

Caesar Paul caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com
Wed Nov 11 21:56:02 EST 2009 

Mary Lou,

Let me follow my own advice given to a group recently.  I told them that it is of no benefit to a man to wait until he has expired to begin to wax eloquent about his virtues.  It is of absolutely no benefit to him then.

You have been, and continues to be an excellent participator and contributor to this Rhodes community.  I read and learn from all your fair and sound comments.  you are a knowledgable Rhodee, and you share your knowledge and experience well.

Thanks for all your efforts on the list.

Disclaimer:  There are many other great contributors as well.  (smile)

Caesar

 



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From: Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 4:19:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Was lift, Now Big Boat Fever

Excellent point. I've known several people who have gotten out of 
sailing or are threatening to get out because they have more boat 
than they can maintain or handle. In some cases it just becomes to 
big a chore. In other cases, money has become a real issue.

If you want to go for a week with your significant other and he/she 
is uncomfortable in a small space with you for that long, you need to 
go bigger.

If you really want to sail from the Chesapeake to Maine, you probably 
ought not to do it on a Rhodes 22 unless you have a lot of time.

If you really want to live on a boat for a long period of time you 
need a bigger boat. Former Rhodies Mark & Julie Kaynor are doing this 
admirable on their Tayana 37 Rachel. (They have a blog here: 
http://svrachel.blogspot.com/)

Like Lee, we like the feel of small boat sailing. We like being close 
to the water and we like the challenge of cruising for a week or more 
in a small space. We also like the simplicity of the systems. We 
purposely don't have the enclosed head or the electric motor lift. We 
do just fine with the portapottie and the manual lift and they are 
simpler with less to go wrong. On the other hand we went with 
electric start on our most recent outboard because we both had bouts 
with shoulder problems and that seemed the prudent thing to do.

Everyone has to find the boat and systems that are right for them. 
Sometimes it takes a while to know what it is that you want. We were 
fortunate. It took us 10 years to move up to the R22 from the Com-Pac 
16. When we moved to Maryland we talked about maybe getting a bigger 
boat seeing as how we were keeping the boat in a slip anyway. After 
spending a lot of time sailing with and hanging around our friends 
with bigger boats, we decided that we would stick with the Rhodes. 
While we reserve the right to change our minds at any time, we've had 
the boat for 12 years and counting.

Best,
Mary Lou
1991 R22  Fretless
Rock Hall, MD


At 06:32 PM 11/11/2009, you wrote:
>Caesar:
>
>I started sailing on a Rhodes 19, had a bluejay 14, moved up to a 
>Coronado 25, then a Pearson 10 meter, Benatue 42 and finally a 
>Bristol 52.  Sailed on the Long Island Sound until we got the 
>Pearson that included weekend long trips in the Rhodes 19 and then 
>sailed most of the Chesapeake bay with the Coronado and 
>Pearson.  Took the Pearson back and forth to Camden Maine from 
>Annapolis MD several times, great trip sailing nonstop 5 days and 
>nights,  .  The Bristol lived in Maine most of the time.  While the 
>luxuries increased with boat size so did the expense and time and 
>effort.  Most of this time sailing was with my Dad who foot the bill 
>and eventually he sized himself out of sailing.  That's why when it 
>was my turn to pay the bill I opted for minimum effort with maximum 
>sail time.  So far my first season I have been out sailing about 32 
>times including 6 overnight trips that average about 25 km each way.
>
>Chris R22 OPUS 2009
>HHN
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org 
>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Geankoplis
>Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 5:09 PM
>To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Was lift, Now Big Boat Fever
>
>Hey Caesar,
>                I've always had a Rhodes, more or less for the last 33
>years.  In that time I've taken my own Rhodes to the Bahamas, Full length of
>the Chesapeake, 700 miles up and down the Baja, and in your wake in the San
>Juan's.  Without owning a bigger boat, I've chartered several times in the
>Caribbean, and in the Northwest, and crewed on other boats in the Bahamas'
>and Caribbean.  I've also managed to sail in the Med a number of time on
>other peoples boats with a bit of "boat exchange" using my Rhodes and some
>sweat equity.  You don't need to own a big boat to get some big boat sailing
>in exotic places and it isn't hard to get some small boat experiences in
>exotic places with boat exchange and your own boat. Not to mention it is
>way, way cheaper to do it this way. I'll bet there are some list members who
>would love to trade your location with theirs on a boat exchange, one man's
>"exotic" is another man's backyard.
>Chris G
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Caesar Paul
>Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 13:43
>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Was lift, Now Big Boat Fever
>
>Leland,
>
>What a lovely boat the Rhodes is!
>
>I am open to advice on the best approach to sailing to far away destination
>for a couple of years.
>
>Caesar
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From: Leland <LKUHN at cnmc.org>
>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 11:28:51 AM
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Was lift, Now Big Boat Fever
>
>
>Caesar,
>
>I definitely agree with Rummy on this one.  Bigger boats certainly have
>advantages over our Rhodes, but the most significant one to me would be
>overnight comfort and ability for lengthy voyages.  It just doesn't seem
>like many people have the time for cruises that last more than a weekend.
>Even the retirees down at my marina don't take their yachts out much.
>
>Sailing small boats is just so much simpler and so much more fun.
>
>I just posted some pictures of Art, Allison, and I sailing that were taken
>by a friend of mine.  While he was photographing us, we were photographing
>him:
>
>http://old.nabble.com/file/p26307105/At%2BEase%2B10-5-09%2B003.jpg
>At+Ease+10-5-09+003.jpg
>
>http://old.nabble.com/file/p26307105/At%2BEase%2B10-5-09%2B009.jpg
>At+Ease+10-5-09+009.jpg
>
>Dan has a Freedom30 and I love his boat.  30' foot is not that big and it is
>designed for easy singlehandling.  Self-tacking jib.  It sails well with
>just the mainsail.  Lazy jacks.  All lines lead to easy reach of the helm.
>No stays or shrouds supporting the mast.  Yet with all these conveniences it
>still takes a significant amount of time and energy to uncover the main,
>untie it, and try to keep the boat pointed into the wind to raise the
>mainsail.  Taking the sail back in and putting it away takes longer.  Try
>reefing a big mainsail in high winds.  Sailing his boat singlehanded if far
>easier than getting it in and out of his slip without help.  He can do it
>but it's a tremendous amount of effort compared to our small boats.  It's
>just as easy to manhandle our boats in and out of slips as it is to motor in
>and out.
>
>Smaller boats than a Rhodes22 are more fun to sail; but then the sailing can
>wear you out, get you wet, and cause you to spill your beer.  Can't have
>that.
>
>As Goldilocks would say, "Ahhh, this boat is just right!"
>
>Lee
>1986 Rhodes22  At Ease
>Kent Island, MD
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