[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 2040, Issue 2

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>>   1. Re: Loading boat on trailer (Caesar Paul)
>>   2. Re: Flag placement? (BenCittadino)
>>   3. Re: Flag placement? (R22RumRunner at aol.com)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 07:47:04 -0800 (PST)
>> From: Caesar Paul <caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Loading boat on trailer
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Message-ID: <190468.47259.qm at web34504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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>> I will have to look carefully at my trailer's design.? I know it has the
>> roller, that I think the center board sits on.? Please be careful in
>> launching without the center board cleated in the up position because if
>> it is shallow where and when you are launching ( shallower than the total
>> draft of the boat), the centerboard will hit the ground, and that could be
>> very bad.
>>
>> Caesar
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Bob Keller <r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com>
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Sent: Tue, November 17, 2009 6:52:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Loading boat on trailer
>>
>>
>> I have a fairly new (2006) Triad trailer and they have remedied that
>> problem.? The roller sits under the keel and so the boat can actually
>> slide back on the trailer without the CB being cleated.? Could also launch
>> the boat without cleating the CB, although I always cleat it.? Forgot once
>> but it didn't matter.
>>
>> Bob K
>>
>>> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:19:12 -0500
>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>> From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Loading boat on trailer
>>>
>>> Rob,
>>> Leaving the centerboard down is the preferred method for loading the
>>> boat on the trailer. We have a roller just below the keel guides that
>>> the keel rests on. As the boat loads, the centerboard rides on that
>>> roller (I doubt it really turns) and slides up into the centerboard
>>> trunk. With the centerboard down, you do need to make sure that the
>>> boat continues to moves only forward. If for some reason you needed
>>> to move the boat back, you would first need to raise and cleat off
>>> the centerboard or run the risk of it hanging up on the trailer. Once
>>> the boat is loaded you also need to immediately raise and cleat off
>>> the line so that the centerboard does not drop the next time you try
>>> to launch the boat. We always make sure the centerboard is cleated
>>> off as part of our pre-launch checklist.
>>>
>>> Mary Lou
>>> 1991 R22 Fretless
>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At 08:56 AM 11/17/2009, you wrote:
>>>> Mary Lou,
>>>> I also broke one of the keel guide boards last year. Same as you,
>>>> the keel came to rest on the guide boards and broke when pulling the
>>>> trailer out. That's one reason I replaced them last year. My
>>>> trailer is a mid 70's (assuming it the same age as the boat) Triad
>>>> and doesn't have the keel rollers. I'm very careful now to watch
>>>> the boat as she's coming out of the water to make sure she's loaded
>>>> correctly. - rob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Mary Lou Troy
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 1:35 PM
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Loading boat on trailer
>>>>
>>>> Rummy is spot on if you have the center guides below the bunks the
>>>> hull rests on. Not sure if all older Rhodes 22 trailers have them.
>>>> having the centerboard down will keep the boat centered. Even so, we
>>>> once had a sobering experience. We had the centerboard down but when
>>>> we pulled the boat out, the very edge of the keel rested on the top
>>>> edge of one of the keel guide boards. As Fred started to pull the
>>>> boat out, I noticed she was sitting high. Almost immediately and
>>>> before I could even say "stop", the guide board splintered and the
>>>> boat slammed back down onto the bunks. No damage (amazingly) to
>>>> anything but the guide board and the roller the keel rides on. The
>>>> centerboard neatly retracted into the trunk. No damage to the hull.
>>>> It was a moderately steep ramp and I believe we probably had the
>>>> trailer in too deep. Maybe. I wouldn't recommend it. I also believe
>>>> we were very lucky there was no further damage. It made a very loud
>>>> noise. We now make sure we can see the forward ends of the bunks and
>>>> bring the boat out slowly paying attention to how the hull is resting
>>>> on the bunks.
>>>>
>>>> Mary Lou
>>>> 1991 R22 Fretless
>>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 12:22 PM 11/16/2009, you wrote:
>>>>> This is an easy one. My guess is that you tried placing the Rhodes on
>>>>> the
>>>>> trailer with the centerboard raised, a mistake many people make. Leave
>>>>> the
>>>>> centerboard all the way down and the guides on the trailer will center
>>>>> the
>>>>> hull just fine. Just make sure that once on the trailer you pull the
>>>>> centerboard line tight and cleat off. Otherwise if you try to launch,
>>>>> the
>>>>> centerboard will get hung up and push the centerboard cap upwards,
>>>>> breaking it into
>>>>> many pieces.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rummy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In a message dated 11/16/2009 11:34:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>>>> rlowe at vt.edu writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> We pulled Getaway this weekend, had to take advantage of the 70 degree
>>>>> day
>>>>> as we only had two weeks left to get her out of the water. Had a heck
>>>>> of
>>>>> a time getting her centered on the trailer. The keel kept landing on
>>>>> top
>>>>> of the lower guide bunks and when I started pulling the trailer the
>>>>> boat
>>>>> would lean over to the side as the keel settled on the bunk. A
>>>>> fellow sailor
>>>>> that was observing suggest the swing keel could be hung up and catching
>>>>> so
>>>>> donned swim mast and dove under water to check (glad the lake was still
>>>>> relatively warm!). Swing keel was fine. Finally got her
>>>> centered enough to
>>>>> come out straight. Questions. Does anyone use some sort of guides on
>>>>> the
>>>>> trailer to aid in centering the boat? My other thought is I replaced
>>>>> the
>>>>> all the wood on my trailer last year and perhaps I got the slot
>>>> between them
>>>>> too narrow. But I thought the guides would center the boat on the
>>>>> trailer. Guess I had the trailer in the water too far? How far do you
>>>>> all
>>>>> submerge your trailer?!
>>>>> I have to about submerge the top bunks so that I can winch the boat far
>>>>> enough forward on the trailer. Any feedback welcome. - rob
>>>>>
>>>>> S/V Getaway
>>>>> 1976 Rhodes 22
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:46:17 -0800 (PST)
>> From: BenCittadino <bencittadino at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Flag placement?
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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>>
>> Hey Rummy;
>>
>>
>> Check this out:
>>
>>
>> http://www.pirateslair.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=PLS&Product_Code=MGR-BRGE
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> BenCittadino
>> s/v Susan Kay
>>
>> R22RumRunner wrote:
>>>
>>> What,
>>> What's a traffic lane? I don't believe I've ever seen any lanes marked
>>> off
>>> on Lake Hartwell. Don't the waves screw up the painted lane markings?
>>>
>>> Rummy
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 11/17/2009 9:39:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>> dwbrad at gmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> Ben, you  could use the blocks on your spreader to raise a radar
>>> reflector if you  were sailing in or near  in traffic lanes.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>> On  11/17/09, BenCittadino <bencittadino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> My boat came from Stan with a nice little pulley set-up on the
>>>> starboard
>>>> spreader, but I have been hesitant to fly the US ensign from  there
>>> because
>>>> it is really not "proper". The US ensign goes on the  stern staff, or
>>>> back
>>>> stays as folks have noted. I did see a nice "Mt  Gay Rum" burgee once
>>>> and
>>>> thought it would be cool to fly that on the  spreader (I don't belong to
>>>> a
>>>> yacht club). I did think of Rummy when I  saw it but since it was in
>>> Jersey
>>>> on a power boat I figured it  couldn't be him. Do we have an R-22 Fleet
>>>> burgee I could fly? Anybody  have a suggestion for my use of the pulley
>>>> on
>>>> the spreader (other than  to hang pirates)??
>>>>
>>>> BenCittadino
>>>> s/v Susan  Kay
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> david.walker5  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> There is nothing meaningless about the US Yacht  Ensign. It, along with
>>>>>
>>> the
>>>>> USPS ensign are completely  apprppopriate for US boat.
>>>>>
>>>>> The US flag from the  spreader is known as a courtesy flag. Any boat in
>>>>> foreign waters  flys the flag of the local country from the stbd
>>> spreader
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>> Sent from my Verizon  Wireless BlackBerry
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original  Message-----
>>>>> From: Rick  <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
>>>>> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009  16:10:04
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email  List<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re:  [Rhodes22-list] Flag placement?
>>>>>
>>>>> Greg,
>>>>>
>>>>> You don't even need micro blocks.  Just cut  a piece of the plastic
>>> tubing
>>>>> used to protect your sails from  chafing on the stays to the vertical
>>>>> length
>>>>> of your  flag, then tie the flag to the port back stay with plastic
>>>>> cable
>>>>> ties at each end of the tubing.  Use another piece of tubing to slide
>>> and
>>>>> support the flag-tubing assembly up the stay a few  feet.
>>>>>
>>>>> I presume you will be flying a standard US flag  to show both boat and
>>> crew
>>>>> are American.  If you fly a yacht  ensign, it is meaningless.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, flying the US flag  from the starboard spreader indicates the
>>>>> boat,
>>>>> crew
>>>>> or both are not American; but you have registered with Homeland
>>> Security.
>>>>> If you are not registered, it gives the Coast Guard good  reason to
>>> board.
>>>>> Those of us who sail near what was once the  longest fortified border
>>>>> in
>>>>> the
>>>>> world learn that  lesson pretty quick.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rick
>>>>>
>>>>> On  Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Greg PA <baywindgroup at comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I want to have a better way  to fly a flag. I have looked in the
>>> archives,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> really don't want to drill a hole in a spreader. I saw  that Bob has
>>>>>> his
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> the backstay of Ruba and  that looked like a good spot. With the mast
>>> down
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> will be easy to put a micro blocks high on each stay. Any  problems
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> or any better  ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>> Greg  PA
>>>>>> s/v Serenity
>>>>>> 79 Rhodes 22
>>>>>> North East MD
>>>>>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:53:20 EST
>> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Flag placement?
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Message-ID: <d39.5d3eb1bc.38358080 at aol.com>
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>> Ben,
>> Great site. I just dropped a $150.00 before I could get out.
>>
>> Rummy
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 11/18/2009 11:46:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> bencittadino at gmail.com writes:
>>
>> http://www.pirateslair.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?
>>
>>
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