[Rhodes22-list] Is it possible to make the R-22 into a cutter?

Tue Sep 1 18:01:41 EDT 2009

Rick,

Never even thought about using the windward sheet like that, but can't wait
to try it.

Thanks!

Lee

Rick-139 wrote:
> 
> Lee,
> 
> My boat came with genny car tracks that run along the cabin base.  Those
> are
> good close hauled from 15 to 20 knots and furling the 175 genny so it just
> goes inside the outer stays.  Lowering the boom above 15 knots and close
> hauled eliminates a lot of heel.  A luff pad or CDI furler does a lot to
> keep the shape of the furled genny.
> 
> To sail close hauled above 20 knots, furl the genny to the lower forwad
> stays and use the windward sheet to pull the genny further in toward
> center.  At 20 knots, your boom should be down even on a broad reach.
> 
> Be at the dock when it blows 30 knots.
> 
> Rick
> 
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Leland <LKUHN at cnmc.org> wrote:
> 
>>
>> David,
>>
>> I may not be a good source of advice on this because at 20 knots and
>> above
>> I
>> deploy my iron genny and motor back home.  At that high of a wind I have
>> yet
>> to figure out how to make much headway into the wind and chop with any
>> speed, and sailing becomes more work than fun for me.
>>
>> In 15 knots of wind on a run you don't need your Genoa at all to surf
>> beyond
>> the maximal hull rate of 5.99 knots--depending on the waves and current
>> you
>> don't even need all of your main.  On a beam reach you can hit the max
>> with
>> your main partially reefed and your Genoa significantly reefed.  On a
>> close
>> reach you'll do about 3 knots with the boom down and main reefed to 80%
>> with
>> the Genoa reefed to 80% (from headstay to mast) and the Genoa sheets
>> running
>> between the shrouds.  Results will vary depending on the conditions but
>> you
>> get the general idea.
>>
>> On a close reach I find the full 175% Genoa effective with a wind between
>> 3
>> and 5 knots.  Beyond a 5 knot wind it doesn't help increase my speed
>> unless
>> I start falling off the wind to a beam reach.  It's exciting to have all
>> the
>> Genoa out but you won't go any faster.
>>
>> If your Genoa is flapping around when you try to reef it in high winds
>> then
>> you've waited too long to reef and probably have way too much sail out.
>>  You
>> should always be able to keep enough tension on your Genoa furling line
>> so
>> the sail doesn't flap.
>>
>> In my opinion, adding a stay would definitely not be worth it.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Lee
>> 1986 Rhodes22  At Ease
>> Kent Island, MD
>>
>>
>>
>> Disick, David wrote:
>> >
>> > Greetings fellow R-22 fans.
>> >
>> > I sail my 1996 Rhodes 22 mostly in Gardiners Bay, New York.  Up to 15
>> > knots or so the 175 Doyle jenny is great, but approaching 20Knots and
>> > above, it is terrible and furling to reef doesn't work well.  It flaps
>> > and feels as though it will rip apart.  I have tried letting out just a
>> > little sail, and that works sometimes, but it would be so much better
>> if
>> > I could put up a smaller sail.  Any thoughts on a stay be added behind
>> > the forestay so I could run up a sort of storm/working jib for very
>> > windy conditions?  I mostly single-hand.  Any comments would be
>> welcome.
>> >
>> > Thank you
>> >
>> > David
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > David J. Disick
>> >
>> > djd at corcoran.com
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