[Rhodes22-list] J. "Stanley" Prufrock
Joe Camp
jjcampjr at yahoo.com
Fri Apr 9 18:34:08 EDT 2010
We could end up getting along quite well.
Joe
--- On Fri, 4/9/10, Matthew Porter <matthewporter27 at gmail.com> wrote:
From: Matthew Porter <matthewporter27 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] J. "Stanley" Prufrock
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 5:09 PM
Love to be there. I miss my time as an English undergrad. I'm now an
attorney, and it's less Eliot and more Dickens.
Jarndyce and Jarndyce drones on,
Porter
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Joe Camp <jjcampjr at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Damn! I'd love to have you all in one of my lit classes.
> Joe
>
> --- On Fri, 4/9/10, Matthew Porter <matthewporter27 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Matthew Porter <matthewporter27 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] J. "Stanley" Prufrock
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 3:34 PM
>
> Eh, I was reaching, but it was either that or: "Like a Rhodes 22 etherized
> upon a trailer."
>
> Porter
>
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Joe Camp <jjcampjr at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Porter:
> > "...till human voices wake us, and we drown."
> > Although "The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock" seems (to me) to be more
> of
> > a doubting lament over life passing, the imagery in your excerpt
> illustrates
> > our affinity with the sea. Anyone who has held a tiller against the push
> of
> > a strong wind knows the thrill of joining with the elements to produce a
> > desired effect: holding a course or maybe making ready to come about.
> The
> > feel of every tiny nuance in the ocean's breath, transmitted from the
> water,
> > up the tiller to your hand, then up to your elbow, shoulder, your neck
> and
> > into your anxious wanting brain, is verification of the connection that
> > Eliot writes into "Prufrock." I am sure (if only in theory at this
> point)
> > that the Rhodes 22 is a part of this poem in ways that Eliot never
> imagined.
> > Porter, I agree with you in buckets!
> > Stan Spitzer is the poet whose pen has scribed the Rhodes 22 poem. He
> told
> > me that he is "no poet." But Stan...poetry is more than just words; it's
> > more a dream-communicated.
> > Joe
> > --- On Fri, 4/9/10, Matthew Porter <matthewporter27 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Matthew Porter <matthewporter27 at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New Member (with extras)
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 11:50 AM
> >
> > Isn't the end of *Prufrock *about the Rhodes 22?
> >
> > *I have seen them riding seaward on the waves
> > Combing the white hair of the waves blown back
> > When the wind blows the water white and black.*
> >
> > Porter
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Joe Camp <jjcampjr at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Elle:
> > > As one English teacher to another (and of course, there is a load
> of
> > > context attached to that association) I want to say thanks for the
> > welcome.
> > > The poem has generated quite a bit of strikingly positive commentary.
> > > However, with this group, I think I could have written "Mary had a
> > little
> > > lamb" and put in "Rhodes 22" someplace and been hailed as the next T.S.
> > > Eliot. Anyway, I appreciate you having taken the time to email, as
> well
> > as
> > > the assessments: "beer is good, people are crazy." Seems I'll fit in
> > > nicely.
> > > Joe
> > >
> > > --- On Fri, 4/9/10, elle <watermusic38 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: elle <watermusic38 at yahoo.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New Member (with extras)
> > > To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 11:19 AM
> > >
> > > Hi, Joe and welcome to 'da list.
> > > Your poem was wonderful (former English teacher here...;^). I enjoyed
> it
> > > and hope the mood will strike again & again and you'll send us some
> more.
> > > Lord knows this list could use the culture...(ONLY KIDDING< guys!).
> > > You & Chris Cowie need to get together....Chris to illustrate your
> > gliding
> > > prose with his breathtaking watercolors. What a match!!
> > > Again, welcome. After SS, this is 'da place' to find out about all
> things
> > > Rhodes.
> > > elle
> > > Beer is good....people are crazy
> > >
> > > 1992 Rhodes 22 Recycled '06"Watermusic" {Lady in Red}
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 4/7/10, Joe Camp <jjcampjr at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Joe Camp <jjcampjr at yahoo.com>
> > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Member (with extras)
> > > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 7:59 AM
> > >
> > >
> > > Rhodes Community:
> > >
> > > I am in the process of having Stan recycle a boat for me. In the
> > > process of our communications, he suggested that I introduce myself to
> > you
> > > all and include a copy of a poem I wrote for him (yeah...a poem).
> > >
> > > Currently, I am a cop near Philadelphia, retiring in July. My wife
> > and
> > > I will move to the Greensboro NC area, where I will be teaching English
> > at
> > > several area colleges. I'll be putting the boat in on John Kerr Lake,
> > north
> > > of Greensboro at the end of July / beginning of August. In the process
> > of
> > > investigating the Rhodes 22 and communicating with Stan, I became
> > > (theoretically) acquainted with the boat's qualities. Being a writer
> (in
> > > addition to the cop and professor gigs) I felt a compulsion to do
> > something
> > > that addressed the more esoteric elements the Rhodes offered to its
> > owners.
> > >
> > > I sent the poem to Stan, and he suggested that I post it here in
> > order
> > > to get your collective feedback. Since, as he said, this is your
> "baby,"
> > > you may have some comments (or even suggestions) about the piece. And,
> > as I
> > > will be making additions and adjustments to the boat, as my will and
> > needs
> > > dictate, I would appreciate your informed opinions on these technical
> > > matters as well, when these times arrive.
> > >
> > > So, here is the poem (below). I look forward to comments of any
> > > color, and to a long (semi) retired span of years sailing this boat,
> > getting
> > > to know its many benefits and establishing myself as one of this
> group's
> > > dedicated members. Thanks.
> > >
> > > Joe Camp
> > >
> > > Wasp
> > > (for Stan Spitzer)
> > > JJ Camp
> > > Flying—almost
> > > silent approach never
> > > expected; overtaken
> > > skipper’s awe
> > > obvious in the wake.
> > > Elegant sloop quietly
> > > glides past
> > > to starboard.
> > > Effortless
> > > essay: full genoa
> > > never luffs, despite elusive
> > > wind’s teasing kiss.
> > > Sturdy twenty-two
> > > sails a reach, water
> > > rides—rises at her
> > > bow cuts like a knife.
> > > Errant tell-tail nearly still
> > > day, windless noon
> > > paints every spar
> > > straight at the sun; no
> > > boat heels—but one:
> > >
> > > The Wasp tacks
> > > away—main
> > > already tight—
> > > on a new heading.
> > February,
> > > 2010
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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