[Rhodes22-list] Sunday's Sail on the Chesapeake
Leland
LKUHN at cnmc.org
Sun Apr 18 18:18:14 EDT 2010
Chris,
I think one of my many problems is that I'm never in the same conditions.
For what it's worth here's what happened today.
Northwest true wind at 11.2 knots. Significant chop. Board down. Boom and
poptop up. Main reefed to 80%. Genoa to 90%. Genoa sheets run through the
side of the cabin, not the top. Traveler centered. End of the boom above
the seat edge.
Port tack at compass reading of zero degrees. Tiller locked about 8 degrees
into the wind. 9 degree heel. Speed steady at 2.9 knots when not hitting
sporadic huge waves.
Starboard tack at compass reading of 270 degrees (90 degrees divided by two
= 45 degrees into the wind). Tiller locked completely straight. 15 degree
heel. Speed steady at 3.6 knots when not hitting big waves.
None of this makes a lot of sense to me. I suspect I may have been heading
a little more than 45 degrees into the wind on the starboard tack and less
on the port. I started with less mainsail and headsail and couldn't get
into the groove or get much heel until I put out more of both sails. I
believe the current and wind were mostly in the same direction which I
didn't think would produce such huge chop. The port tack was more into the
chop which I thought would provide a smoother ride, but the starboard tack
was hitting the waves at more of a 45 degree angle and seemed to roll the
boat more smoothly over the waves. I thought I would need to have the Genoa
sheets run over the cabintop top to get the sail tight enough to head into
the wind that much. I thought I would need to lower the boom and center it
as much as possible to get the mainsail tight enough to head that much into
the wind. I was wrong on all accounts.
I don't know if I learned much from this experience except that I still
don't know what the heck I'm doing. Perhaps you need to put out enough sail
to make the boat heel a little to go well into the wind, but I'm not really
sure. I sailed faster on the starboard even with a bit of the prop dragging
in the water, so if nothing else the extra heel added speed.
Lee
1986 Rhodes22 AT EASE
Kent Island, MD
Leland wrote:
>
> Chris,
>
> Below is something I posted back in September of 2007. I'm sure I could
> duplicate the set-up in the same conditions and not be able to point as
> high, but it certainly worked back then.
>
> Looks like one thing that might help would be to run your Genoa sheets
> across the top of the cabin instead of the side of the cabin. My Genoa
> could not have been pulled any tighter, and my main was as tight as
> possible with the traveler centered (would have made sense to bring the
> traveler slightly to windward).
>
> I think I was more surprised at the speed than degrees to the wind. I
> normally don't go too fast when I try to push her much into the wind.
>
> Lee
>
> _____________________________________________________________________
>
> Jack,
>
> I stand corrected. I actually can point that high. And I'm not that good
> of a sailor.
>
> Went sailing this afternoon. True wind was exactly 12 knots from the
> south just before I put the sails up and exactly 12 knots from the south
> just after I furled them in. Apparent wind fluctuated between 10 and 15
> knots.
> Small craft advisory due to the chop, which was about 3 feet in most
> areas.
>
> Boom down. Full main. Genoa sheets ran across the cabin top which
> brought the tip of the clew to the forward shrouds (about 85% reefed).
> Board down.
> Traveler centered but pulled so tight the end of the boom was less than
> 12"
> from the traveler.
>
> Port tack on a close reach at 240 degrees with a 10 to 15 degree heel
> going about 3.5 to 4 knots with the tiller locked at about 3 degrees to
> the leeward side. Starboard tack at on a close reach at 150 degrees with
> a 15 to 20 degree heel (stupid 130 lb. outboard) going about 3.5 to 4
> knots with the tiller locked at about 3 degrees to the leeward side. 240
> minus 150 equals 90 divided by 2 would be 45 degrees into the wind, but
> that was on a close reach, not on a beat, close-hauled. I easily got
> another 5 degrees without luffing the sails on a beat.
>
> Considering the amount of wind and chop, I think the Rhodes22 will point
> better than 40 degrees with a little less wind and a lot less chop.
>
> One other minor factor. I was single-handling so I only had 180 lbs. of
> human ballast. Okay, maybe 190 lbs., but I was standing most of the time
> as opposed to sitting or hiking-out.
>
> We really do have a well-designed sailboat.
>
> Lee
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Chris Cowie
> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 11:30 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sunday's Sail on the Chesapeake
>
> Lee:
>
> The file will open google earth if you have it installed. I agree, the
> weather was perfect. I used the opportunity to see how close I could sail
> to the wind adjusting the jib sheets to the intermediate, cabin side
> cleat. The best I could do, and this took be down from about 4.2 kts to
> about 3.8kts, was about 60 degrees off the wind on each tack or a total of
> 120 degrees from each tack. I know in theory most sailboats should be
> able to sail to within about 45 degrees of the wind or a total of 90
> degrees from each tack but have not had much luck getting anything better
> than 60/120 unless I motor sail.
>
> Christopher P. Cowie
>
>
> 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW
> Suite 300
> Washington, DC 20007
> 202.342.2711
> 202.342.2691 fax
> 202.270.1470 mobile
>
> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
> cowieassociates.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of KUHN, LELAND
> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:07 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Wire Diagram
>
> Rob: My computer illiteracy strikes again! Do you need to download
> Google Earth to open this file? If so I may have to try this at home.
>
> Chris: I was out sailing at the exact same time and just couldn't have
> asked for better conditions. Just enough wind to go fast but not enough
> wind to make you work. Certainly beat doing yard work, which was most
> of the rest of my weekend.
>
> Lee
> 1986 Rhodes22 AT EASE
> Kent Island, MD
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Lowe, Rob
> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 9:35 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Wire Diagram
>
> Chris,
> Opened just fine for me. Nice way to log your trip. Guess when Goggle
> obtained this photo your slip was empty. - rob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of cowie
> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 8:20 AM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Wire Diagram
>
>
> Ben:
>
> I am experimenting with my iphone navionics program $9.99 that will
> track my
> trip on the phone and allow me to email a summary of the trip along with
> a
> link to the google earth track including any photos I take along the
> way.
> Hopefully Nabble will allow me to attach the .kmz file.
>
>
> Start Time: 4/11/10 2:00 PM
> End Time: 4/11/10 4:15 PM
>
> Active track info:
>
> Distance: 9.8 mi
> Total Time: 2h 13'
> Average Speed: 4.4 mph
> Max Speed: 6.7 mph
>
> Click on the attached .kmz file to see it in Google Earth!
>
> http://old.nabble.com/file/p28216999/100411.kmz 100411.kmz
>
>
> cowie wrote:
>>
>> I am adding some electronic equipment and spent the time to figure out
> how
>> the main wiring is set up in my boat. I thought the group might enjoy
>> seeing how this is set up. Enclosed is a schematic sketch for
> reference.
>> Note that the solar panel #2 goes direct to battery #2 and solar panel
> #1
>> goes direct to the power panel that is connected to battery #1. This
>> arrangement allows the solar panels to always be charging even if the
> main
>> battery switch is turned to the off position. The bus bar is always
> hot
>> from battery #1 that means the macerator and water pump will always
> have
>> power from battery #1. The terminals located in the lazaret is always
> hot
>> from battery #2 that means the electric start and power lift always
> has
>> power. Having the bus bar and lazaret terminals hot allows the power
>> control panel to remain a managable size.
>>
>> http://old.nabble.com/file/p28204348/photo.jpg photo.jpg
>>
>
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