[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 2193, Issue 1
Hank
hnw555 at gmail.com
Mon Apr 26 13:16:20 EDT 2010
Cody,
A pic of your setup would be helpful in determing the problem.
Hank
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 1:14 PM, cody nowak <schmiddlediggy at hotmail.com>wrote:
>
> Hello to the group I am Cody and became the proud owner last Nov. I would
> ask if any one in the group has any pics as to how the jib sheets run back
> to the cockpit as I am sure I have them wrong?? running from the sails (jib)
> around the stays - were they rub!! and on to the cockpit. I am sure thats
> wrong! Please help!! thx Cody
>
> > From: rhodes22-list-request at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 2193, Issue 1
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 12:00:19 -0400
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> > 1. Re: Equipment query (Joe Camp)
> > 2. Re: A new boat in the fleet (R22RumRunner at aol.com)
> > 3. Re: Equipment query (R22RumRunner at aol.com)
> > 4. Re: UPS Sail for Rhodes 22 (R Orkin)
> > 5. Re: Equipment query (Joe Camp)
> > 6. Re: Equipment query (elle)
> > 7. Re: Equipment query (Joe Camp)
> > 8. Re: Equipment query (cjlowe at sssnet.com)
> > 9. Re: UPS Sail for Rhodes 22 (DownHill)
> > 10. Re: Equipment query (Joe Camp)
> > 11. Re: Equipment query (R22RumRunner at aol.com)
> > 12. Re: UPS Sail for Rhodes 22 (R22RumRunner at aol.com)
> > 13. Re: Equipment query (Geankoplis)
> > 14. tiller pilot ST1000 (cowie)
> > 15. Re: Equipment query (Joe Camp)
> > 16. Re: Equipment query (Lowe, Rob)
> > 17. Re: tiller pilot ST1000 (Rick)
> > 18. Farewell (Eric Larson)
> > 19. Re: Equipment query (Joe Camp)
> > 20. Re: UPS Sail for Rhodes 22 (KUHN, LELAND)
> > 21. Just introducing myself (Geoff Farrell)
> > 22. Re: Farewell (Lowe, Rob)
> > 23. Re: tiller pilot ST1000 (Chris Cowie)
> > 24. Re: tiller pilot ST1000 (Yaron Fuchs)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 09:03:09 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Joe Camp <jjcampjr at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Equipment query
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID: <365766.52411.qm at web52304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> >
> > Mary Lou:
> > ?
> > Great list.? Really, it's not too much.? This will be fun.
> > ?
> > Joe
> >
> > --- On Sun, 4/25/10, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Equipment query
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Date: Sunday, April 25, 2010, 11:26 AM
> >
> >
> > Hi Joe,
> >
> > At 10:37 AM 4/25/2010, you wrote:
> > >? How about lines,
> >
> > Are you putting her in a slip? If so, you'll want enough to tie her
> > in the slip and a couple of extra for the launch ramp. A few more if
> > there are other marinas or restaurants on your lake you might want to
> > visit (so you don't have to take the docklines from your slip). We
> > have a wide assortment. For tying up in the slip we use 3 strand
> > nylon. We have a mix of braided and nylone of different lengths that
> > we take cruising as docking arrangements vary widely on the Chesapeake.
> >
> > >fenders
> >
> > We don't use fenders in our home slip but we have an assortment that
> > we use at other marinas and for raftups. By far, the best are the
> > Taylor low freeboard fenders that are curved at the top.
> > (http://www.boatcovers.cc/cgi-bin/catalog.pl?item_id=9) We have the
> > 7" ones and they fit and stay put really well around the R22 curves.
> > We have a few others that we will use on a dock where extra
> > protection is necessary but these are the most useful.
> >
> > >anchor hardware,
> >
> > Your R22 will come with an anchor and rode. What you need beyond that
> > will depend on where you will be anchoring.
> >
> > >PFDs
> > Obviously a must. One for everyone on the boat. We don't use them
> > unless the going gets rough and then we have inflatables that we
> > like. Inflatables don't count towards your complement of PFDs unless
> > you are wearing them so we have a bag of regular PFDs that we bought
> > as a pack from West to make sure that there is one for each of us and
> guests.
> >
> > >day and night warning devices
> >
> > We carry a horn and a flashlight. Boat comes with running lights. We
> > also have Coast Guard approved flares aboard.
> >
> > >and any variety of items you think I'll need to sail...not in
> > >oppulent comfort, but you know: just friggin' sail.
> >
> > Weather radio or VHF with weather channel.
> > VHF is indispensable on the Chesapeake. Not sure about your lake, but
> > if there are a lot of boaters, and if your marina uses it, it's
> > useful. We got by with a handheld for years but discovered that we
> > had trouble receiving transmissions from other folks with handhelds
> > (like the dockmasters at a marina) and finally went with a
> > permanently mounted radio and a masthead antenna.
> >
> > Weather radio is important anywhere.
> >
> > Binoculars
> >
> > Chart or map of your lake if available.
> >
> > Best of luck,
> > Mary Lou
> > 1991 R22 Fretless
> > Rock Hall, MD
> >
> > __________________________________________________
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> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 12:28:37 EDT
> > From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] A new boat in the fleet
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Message-ID: <53bc8.485604f3.3905c7b5 at aol.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> >
> > Frank,
> > Beautiful boat. I like what Stan did with the anchor mount.
> >
> > Rummy
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 4/24/2010 5:54:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > ftugwell at cox.net writes:
> >
> >
> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20100424/f16e4f5
> > 9/attachment.JPG
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 12:33:22 EDT
> > From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Equipment query
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Message-ID: <53ec1.48193603.3905c8d2 at aol.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > Joe,
> > The obvious necessities are the pfd's, fire extinguisher, glass cleaner
> and
> > paper towels. After that you will need a good supply of ice, diet coke
> > (preferably made with splenda) and lots of Mt Gay rum. I'm available on
> short
> > notice. Insulated tumblers are best.
> >
> > Rummy
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 4/25/2010 10:37:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > jjcampjr at yahoo.com writes:
> >
> > Hey: (greeting that denotes familiarity)
> >
> > Stan and his crew will deliver a Recycled boat to me around the end of
> > July. I would put this to him, but I understand that he is "waiting for
> them
> > to deliver a straight jacket in [his] size," and I don't want to add
> > anything to his pile.
> >
> > I want to put the intervening time to the best use in getting what I'll
> > need to sail on day-one. I'd appreciate (from those who have been down
> this
> > path) some guidance on things I'll need. Motor & gas tank, I know. How
> > about lines, fenders, anchor hardware, PFDs, day and night warning
> devices
> > and any variety of items you think I'll need to sail...not in oppulent
> > comfort, but you know: just friggin' sail. I will have it on a fresh
> water lake
> > in NC. Many thanks. And Here's a (non sailing) poem for all to enjoy.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > Crush
> > JJ Camp
> >
> > It came at night; she half
> > expected murder
> > disappointment discomfiture
> >
> > of other expectations
> > First: dark quiet
> > reigned-in blacker dream
> >
> > dreams dreamer never
> > saw the crush
> > approached from her exposed
> >
> > right side, eye unblinking
> > fracture fractured quiet
> > undone in the crush
> >
> > the crush. She breathed hard
> > knuckle bone against
> > bone, skin rent rendered
> >
> > red under night?s
> > black blanket, unconscious
> > rifted shifting. Bright
> >
> > light in her head, the crush
> > silent crush. She heard
> > something like television
> >
> > snow crackled then
> > and then?nothing
> > nothing but the quiet
> >
> > of nothing. She thought:
> > ?So this is what it?s like.
> > This is what
> >
> > it?s like to die
> > when fragments
> > of love crushed bone
> >
> > skull bone collapses
> > yields to fist and flesh
> > and crush sometime
> >
> > after twelve, when children
> > should be asleep, not
> > hearing, not listening
> >
> > And this is how Mother
> > felt when Daddy?
> > when Daddy
> >
> > when love in some disguise
> > some disgruntled love drunk
> > love comes home too late
> >
> > or too soon. 19 August 2003
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
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> >
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> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 09:56:33 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: R Orkin <roryorkin at verizon.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] UPS Sail for Rhodes 22
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Message-ID: <28357287.post at talk.nabble.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> >
> > Got mine late last year but have not had a chance to try it..
> > I mounted a pad Eye on the deck with backing plate.. It was not supplied
> by
> > Doyle.
> > I had spare halyard pully as well..
> >
> >
> > David Culp-3 wrote:
> > >
> > > I just got a new UPS sail from Doyle for my boat. I have used it only
> > > one time, but I was quite pleased with the results as I would have
> > > been motoring instead of sailing in the light wind conditions.
> > >
> > > There is a good discussion of the UPS for the Rhodes on rhodes22.org .
> > > However, that information needs to be updated. So here it goes:
> > >
> > > The new kit price is $ 1075.00 which is $ 100.00 more then the order
> > > form states.
> > >
> > > The kit includes:
> > >
> > > UPS sail for the Rhodes 22 in customer chosen colors.
> > > Harken furling kit # 3029 which includes the furler and top swivel.
> > > Sheet line and furling line cut in the appropriate lengths.
> > >
> > > All these items are great and exactly what you need. The kit also
> > > includes a halyard restrainer which in reality is merely a pad-eye and
> > > a couple of pop rivets. The deck-eye is just a plain old eye-bolt. I
> > > was expecting something different in regards to these two items and
> > > had the discussion with Doyle in NY about them. Doyle tells me that
> > > other Rhodes sailors are using these two items quite successfully, so
> > > to each his own I guess. The pad-eye will work, but it is not a
> > > formal halyard restrainer and I ordered Harken # 944 ($45.00) to use
> > > instead because it has a roller sheave. And do we really have Rhodes
> > > owners mounting eye-bolts with no plates on their decks? Good luck on
> > > that. I have ordered something different with a top and backing
> > > plate.
> > >
> > > In addition, I added a snap-shackle to the bottom of the furler unit
> > > so that it can be easily disconnected from the deck and a U shaped
> > > shackle to the top of the furler to connect it to the tack of the
> > > sail. The provided top swivel mounts directly to the head of the
> > > sail, so nothing additional needed there. I already discussed the
> > > halyard restrainer and with the IMF, I had a spare halyard available,
> > > so I didn't have to add one. Lastly, I replaced all the cotter pins
> > > on the furling units with cotter rings hoping to prevent torn sails if
> > > they get together in the sail bag.
> > >
> > > Doyle in NY is good to work with and they always respond in a timely
> > > manner. I think the sail is actually cut in Florida and Doyle Florida
> > > forgot to ship the hardware with the sail, so there was a delay
> > > getting it up and going.
> > >
> > > Once I get everything installed, I will take some pictures and send
> > > them to Rhodes22.org or post them here. In the meantime, if anyone
> > > has any questions so far, feel free to ask.
> > >
> > > David
> > > __________________________________________________
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> > >
> > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
> go
> > > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > > __________________________________________________
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > -----
> > Rory Orkin
> > Tilghman, Md
> > 2000 Recycled Rhodes 22
> > Duet ll
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> http://old.nabble.com/UPS-Sail-for-Rhodes-22-tp28351414p28357287.html
> > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 11:10:26 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Joe Camp <jjcampjr at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Equipment query
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID: <313129.5449.qm at web52307.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > Rummy:
> > ?
> > ????? Can I slip the rum into the PFDs?
> >
> > --- On Sun, 4/25/10, R22RumRunner at aol.com <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: R22RumRunner at aol.com <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Equipment query
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Date: Sunday, April 25, 2010, 12:33 PM
> >
> >
> > Joe,
> > The obvious necessities are the pfd's, fire extinguisher, glass cleaner
> and
> > paper towels. After that you will need a good supply of ice, diet coke?
> > (preferably made with splenda) and lots of Mt Gay rum. I'm available on?
> short
> > notice. Insulated tumblers are best.
> >
> > Rummy
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 4/25/2010 10:37:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,?
> > jjcampjr at yahoo.com writes:
> >
> > Hey:? (greeting that denotes familiarity)
> >
> > Stan? and his crew will deliver a Recycled boat to me around the end of
> > July.???I would put this to him, but I understand that he is "waiting for
> them
> > to? deliver a straight jacket in [his] size," and I don't want to add
> > anything to? his pile.?
> >
> > I want to put the? intervening time to the best use in getting what I'll
> > need to sail on? day-one.? I'd appreciate (from those who have been down
> this
> > path) some? guidance on things I'll need.? Motor & gas tank, I know.?
> How?
> > about lines, fenders, anchor hardware, PFDs, day and night warning?
> devices
> > and any variety of items you think I'll need to sail...not in? oppulent
> > comfort, but you know: just friggin' sail.? I will have it on a? fresh
> water lake
> > in NC. Many thanks.? And Here's a (non? sailing) poem for all to enjoy.
> >
> > Joe?
> >
> > Crush
> > JJ Camp
> >
> > It came at night; she half
> > expected murder?
> > disappointment discomfiture
> >
> > of other expectations
> > First:? dark quiet
> > reigned-in blacker dream
> >
> > dreams dreamer? never
> > saw the crush
> > approached from her exposed
> >
> > right side,? eye unblinking
> > fracture fractured quiet
> > undone in the? crush
> >
> > the crush. She breathed hard
> > knuckle bone? against
> > bone, skin rent rendered
> >
> > red under night?s
> > black? blanket, unconscious
> > rifted shifting. Bright
> >
> > light in her? head, the crush
> > silent crush. She heard
> > something like? television
> >
> > snow crackled then
> > and then?nothing
> > nothing? but the quiet
> >
> > of nothing. She thought:
> > ?So this is what it?s? like.
> > This is what
> >
> > it?s like to die
> > when fragments
> > of? love crushed bone?
> >
> > skull bone collapses
> > yields to? fist and flesh
> > and crush sometime
> >
> > after twelve, when? children
> > should be asleep, not
> > hearing, not listening
> >
> > And? this is how Mother
> > felt when Daddy?
> > when Daddy
> >
> > when love? in some disguise
> > some disgruntled love drunk
> > love comes home too? late
> >
> > or too soon.? ? ? ???19 August? 2003
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > To? subscribe/unsubscribe go to?
> > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> > For the list? Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
> go
> > to? http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > __________________________________________________
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > __________________________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 11:59:05 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: elle <watermusic38 at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Equipment query
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID: <409001.47897.qm at web113519.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > OK, Joe,
> > Ya gotta stop this...you're making the rest of us look bad...;^) ?We
> gotta get you out onto the water!
> > (Awesome poetry, BTW!)
> > Re: equipment...everyone will have their favorites, but I saved a bundle
> of $$$ buying comma-shaped fenders from here :
> > http://www.boatersland.com/search.php?mode=search&page=1
> > BTW....this is BoatersLAND, not BoatersWORLD.
> > 'Way cheaper than any of the marine stores...Buying from them is quick,
> easy & cheap. In the past I would have suggested that you take the info to
> B/US...but these days I feel it is unfair to the bricks & mortar stores to
> try to price match with an internet ?guy who just orders from a manufacturer
> & has it drop shipped to you. ?Living down here is a small town we are
> acutely aware that these people are not only our local businessmen but also
> our neighbors.?
> >
> > elle
> > coming to you from the Northern Neck: Virginia's best -kept secret. Our
> motto:
> > Come for the day...spend money...GO HOME> ?( ;^)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Beer is good....people are crazy
> >
> > 1992 Rhodes 22 ? ?Recycled '06"Watermusic" ?{Lady in Red}
> >
> > --- On Sun, 4/25/10, Joe Camp <jjcampjr at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Joe Camp <jjcampjr at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Equipment query
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Date: Sunday, April 25, 2010, 10:37 AM
> >
> > Hey: (greeting that denotes familiarity)
> > ?
> > ???? Stan and his crew will deliver a Recycled boat to me around the end
> of July.? I would put this to him, but I understand that he is "waiting for
> them to deliver a straight jacket in [his] size," and I don't want to add
> anything to his pile.?
> > ?
> > ???? I want to put the intervening time to the best use in getting what
> I'll need to sail on day-one.? I'd appreciate (from those who have been down
> this path) some guidance on things I'll need.? Motor & gas tank, I know.?
> How about lines, fenders, anchor hardware, PFDs, day and night warning
> devices?and any variety of items you think I'll need to sail...not in
> oppulent comfort, but you know: just friggin' sail.? I will have it on a
> fresh water lake in NC. Many thanks.? And Here's a (non sailing)?poem for
> all to enjoy.
> > ?
> > Joe
> > ?
> > ???????? Crush
> > ??????????????????????? ??????????? ?????????????? JJ Camp
> > ?
> > It came at night; she half
> > expected murder
> > disappointment discomfiture
> > ?
> > of other expectations
> > First: dark quiet
> > reigned-in blacker dream
> > ?
> > dreams dreamer never
> > saw the crush
> > approached from her exposed
> > ?
> > right side, eye unblinking
> > fracture fractured quiet
> > undone in the crush
> > ?
> > the crush. She breathed hard
> > knuckle bone against
> > bone, skin rent rendered
> > ?
> > red under night?s
> > black blanket, unconscious
> > rifted shifting. Bright
> > ?
> > light in her head, the crush
> > silent crush. She heard
> > something like television
> > ?
> > snow crackled then
> > and then?nothing
> > nothing but the quiet
> > ?
> > of nothing. She thought:
> > ?So this is what it?s like.
> > This is what
> > ?
> > it?s like to die
> > when fragments
> > of love crushed bone??
> > ?
> > skull bone collapses
> > yields to fist and flesh
> > and crush sometime
> > ?
> > after twelve, when children
> > should be asleep, not
> > hearing, not listening
> > ?
> > And this is how Mother
> > felt when Daddy?
> > when Daddy
> > ?
> > when love in some disguise
> > some disgruntled love drunk
> > love comes home too late
> > ?
> > or too soon.????? ??????????????????????? ??????????? ??????????? 19
> August 2003
> > ?
> > ?
> > ?
> > ?
> > ?
> > ?
> > ?
> > ?
> > ?
> > ?
> > ?
> >
> >
> > ? ? ?
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > __________________________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 13:12:50 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Joe Camp <jjcampjr at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Equipment query
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID: <170177.82168.qm at web52302.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > Elle:
> > ?
> > Thanks for the link.? I'll look into them for all of my stuff.?
> > ?
> > The poetry?? Babe, that never stops.? I have an endless supply.? To stop
> looking bad, you simply make up some personal judgement about what it means
> to YOU, and then boldly put it out there as if you have a PhD.? I have
> turned many a reluctant student into able literary critics.? Try this simple
> poem.
> > ?
> > ?
> > Joe
> > ?
> > ??????????????? First Perceptions
> > ?????? The abuse of An Infant Child
> > ??????????? (Emotion Awareness)?? ??????????????????????? ??????????? JJ
> Camp
> > ?
> > ??????????? ??????????? ? : ?
> > ?
> > ??????????? ??????????? ? , ?
> > ?
> > ??????????? ??????????? ? . ?
> > ?
> > ??????????? ??????????? ? ? ?
> > ?
> > ??????????? ??????????? ??? ?
> > ?
> > ??????????? ??????????? ? ??? ?
> > ?
> > ??????????? ??????????? ? ???? ?
> > ?
> > ??????????? ??????????? ? ???! ?
> > ?
> > ??????????? ??????????? ? ??!! ?
> > ?
> > ??????????? ??????????? ? ?!!! ?
> > ?
> > ??????????? ??????????? ? !!!! ?
> > ?
> > ??????????? ??????????? [????????? ]
> > ?
> > ??????????? ???? [infinity symbol here]
> >
> >
> > --- On Sun, 4/25/10, elle <watermusic38 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: elle <watermusic38 at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Equipment query
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Date: Sunday, April 25, 2010, 2:59 PM
> >
> >
> > OK, Joe,
> > Ya gotta stop this...you're making the rest of us look bad...;^) ?We
> gotta get you out onto the water!
> > (Awesome poetry, BTW!)
> > Re: equipment...everyone will have their favorites, but I saved a bundle
> of $$$ buying comma-shaped fenders from here :
> > http://www.boatersland.com/search.php?mode=search&page=1
> > BTW....this is BoatersLAND, not BoatersWORLD.
> > 'Way cheaper than any of the marine stores...Buying from them is quick,
> easy & cheap. In the past I would have suggested that you take the info to
> B/US...but these days I feel it is unfair to the bricks & mortar stores to
> try to price match with an internet ?guy who just orders from a manufacturer
> & has it drop shipped to you. ?Living down here is a small town we are
> acutely aware that these people are not only our local businessmen but also
> our neighbors.?
> >
> > elle
> > coming to you from the Northern Neck: Virginia's best -kept secret. Our
> motto:
> > Come for the day...spend money...GO HOME> ?( ;^)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Beer is good....people are crazy
> >
> > 1992 Rhodes 22 ? ?Recycled '06"Watermusic" ?{Lady in Red}
> >
> > --- On Sun, 4/25/10, Joe Camp <jjcampjr at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Joe Camp <jjcampjr at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Equipment query
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Date: Sunday, April 25, 2010, 10:37 AM
> >
> > Hey: (greeting that denotes familiarity)
> > ?
> > ???? Stan and his crew will deliver a Recycled boat to me around the end
> of July.? I would put this to him, but I understand that he is "waiting for
> them to deliver a straight jacket in [his] size," and I don't want to add
> anything to his pile.?
> > ?
> > ???? I want to put the intervening time to the best use in getting what
> I'll need to sail on day-one.? I'd appreciate (from those who have been down
> this path) some guidance on things I'll need.? Motor & gas tank, I know.?
> How about lines, fenders, anchor hardware, PFDs, day and night warning
> devices?and any variety of items you think I'll need to sail...not in
> oppulent comfort, but you know: just friggin' sail.? I will have it on a
> fresh water lake in NC. Many thanks.? And Here's a (non sailing)?poem for
> all to enjoy.
> > ?
> > Joe
> > ?
> > ???????? Crush
> > ??????????????????????? ??????????? ?????????????? JJ Camp
> > ?
> > It came at night; she half
> > expected murder
> > disappointment discomfiture
> > ?
> > of other expectations
> > First: dark quiet
> > reigned-in blacker dream
> > ?
> > dreams dreamer never
> > saw the crush
> > approached from her exposed
> > ?
> > right side, eye unblinking
> > fracture fractured quiet
> > undone in the crush
> > ?
> > the crush. She breathed hard
> > knuckle bone against
> > bone, skin rent rendered
> > ?
> > red under night?s
> > black blanket, unconscious
> > rifted shifting. Bright
> > ?
> > light in her head, the crush
> > silent crush. She heard
> > something like television
> > ?
> > snow crackled then
> > and then?nothing
> > nothing but the quiet
> > ?
> > of nothing. She thought:
> > ?So this is what it?s like.
> > This is what
> > ?
> > it?s like to die
> > when fragments
> > of love crushed bone??
> > ?
> > skull bone collapses
> > yields to fist and flesh
> > and crush sometime
> > ?
> > after twelve, when children
> > should be asleep, not
> > hearing, not listening
> > ?
> > And this is how Mother
> > felt when Daddy?
> > when Daddy
> > ?
> > when love in some disguise
> > some disgruntled love drunk
> > love comes home too late
> > ?
> > or too soon.????? ??????????????????????? ??????????? ??????????? 19
> August 2003
> > ?
> > ?
> > ?
> > ?
> > ?
> > ?
> > ?
> > ?
> > ?
> > ?
> > ?
> >
> >
> > ? ? ?
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
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> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > ? ? ?
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 16:25:37 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: cjlowe at sssnet.com
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Equipment query
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > <1329.24.140.30.102.1272227137.squirrel at quickpop.sssnet.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
> >
> > Joe,
> >
> > Some things you might want to think about now are how you are going to
> > use your boat. Will you overnight on the boat ,some,alot,not at all? If
> > you plan to overnight alot,a LED anchor light will help extend the
> > battery budget.(if out on the hook)
> > Will you trailer or take a slip? If you choose a slip,will it have
> > electric? If not, you will need a solar panel or two depending on your
> > wattage appitite. If you have electric,you'll need a shore power
> > hook-up,and most likely a battery charger.
> > In N.C., a bimini is almost a must,and if you overnight much, a poptop
> > is a really sweet.You can still sail with either or both deployed.
> > Some things are best left for Stan to do at the factory,like the captain
> > seats(the stern rail needs modified or changed.) Shore power,solar
> > panels, power outboard lift, might fall into that group,also.
> > One thing I like is a cheap GPS, if only to see what a sail trim gets
> > you in speed.
> >
> > Jerry Lowe
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Hey: (greeting that denotes familiarity)
> > > ??
> > > ???????? Stan and his crew will deliver a Recycled boat to me around
> the
> > > end of July.?? I would put this to him, but I understand that he is
> > > "waiting for them to deliver a straight jacket in [his] size," and I
> don't
> > > want to add anything to his pile.??
> > > ??
> > > ???????? I want to put the intervening time to the best use in getting
> > > what I'll need to sail on day-one.?? I'd appreciate (from those who
> have
> > > been down this path) some guidance on things I'll need.?? Motor & gas
> > > tank, I know.?? How about lines, fenders, anchor hardware, PFDs, day
> and
> > > night warning devices??and any variety of items you think I'll need to
> > > sail...not in oppulent comfort, but you know: just friggin' sail.?? I
> will
> > > have it on a fresh water lake in NC. Many thanks.?? And Here's a (non
> > > sailing)??poem for all to enjoy.
> > > ??
> > > Joe
> > > ??
> > > ???????????????? Crush
> > > ?????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????
> > > ???????????????????????????? JJ Camp
> > > ??
> > > It came at night; she half
> > > expected murder
> > > disappointment discomfiture
> > > ??
> > > of other expectations
> > > First: dark quiet
> > > reigned-in blacker dream
> > > ??
> > > dreams dreamer never
> > > saw the crush
> > > approached from her exposed
> > > ??
> > > right side, eye unblinking
> > > fracture fractured quiet
> > > undone in the crush
> > > ??
> > > the crush. She breathed hard
> > > knuckle bone against
> > > bone, skin rent rendered
> > > ??
> > > red under night???s
> > > black blanket, unconscious
> > > rifted shifting. Bright
> > > ??
> > > light in her head, the crush
> > > silent crush. She heard
> > > something like television
> > > ??
> > > snow crackled then
> > > and then???nothing
> > > nothing but the quiet
> > > ??
> > > of nothing. She thought:
> > > ???So this is what it???s like.
> > > This is what
> > > ??
> > > it???s like to die
> > > when fragments
> > > of love crushed bone????
> > > ??
> > > skull bone collapses
> > > yields to fist and flesh
> > > and crush sometime
> > > ??
> > > after twelve, when children
> > > should be asleep, not
> > > hearing, not listening
> > > ??
> > > And this is how Mother
> > > felt when Daddy???
> > > when Daddy
> > > ??
> > > when love in some disguise
> > > some disgruntled love drunk
> > > love comes home too late
> > > ??
> > > or too soon.?????????? ??????????????????????????????????????????????
> > > ?????????????????????? ?????????????????????? 19 August 2003
> > > ??
> > > ??
> > > ??
> > > ??
> > > ??
> > > ??
> > > ??
> > > ??
> > > ??
> > > ??
> > > ??
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________
> > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
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> > >
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> > > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 14:27:38 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: DownHill <jadoucet at snet.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] UPS Sail for Rhodes 22
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Message-ID: <28358995.post at talk.nabble.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> >
> > David,
> >
> > I have moved my boat to an area where the 175 Genoa that came with my
> 2004
> > rebuilt Rhodes is much too heavy for the typical wind.
> >
> > Couldn't one just replace the 175 sail with the Doyle UPS sail & keep the
> > existing furling system?
> >
> > I'll be interested in your sailing experience, especially close hauled
> and
> > partially furled with the jib sheet led through the inner rigging points
> on
> > the boat.
> >
> > I don't doubt that the UPS is superior off The wind.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> >
> > David Culp-3 wrote:
> > >
> > > I just got a new UPS sail from Doyle for my boat. I have used it only
> > > one time, but I was quite pleased with the results as I would have
> > > been motoring instead of sailing in the light wind conditions.
> > >
> > > There is a good discussion of the UPS for the Rhodes on rhodes22.org .
> > > However, that information needs to be updated. So here it goes:
> > >
> > > The new kit price is $ 1075.00 which is $ 100.00 more then the order
> > > form states.
> > >
> > > The kit includes:
> > >
> > > UPS sail for the Rhodes 22 in customer chosen colors.
> > > Harken furling kit # 3029 which includes the furler and top swivel.
> > > Sheet line and furling line cut in the appropriate lengths.
> > >
> > > All these items are great and exactly what you need. The kit also
> > > includes a halyard restrainer which in reality is merely a pad-eye and
> > > a couple of pop rivets. The deck-eye is just a plain old eye-bolt. I
> > > was expecting something different in regards to these two items and
> > > had the discussion with Doyle in NY about them. Doyle tells me that
> > > other Rhodes sailors are using these two items quite successfully, so
> > > to each his own I guess. The pad-eye will work, but it is not a
> > > formal halyard restrainer and I ordered Harken # 944 ($45.00) to use
> > > instead because it has a roller sheave. And do we really have Rhodes
> > > owners mounting eye-bolts with no plates on their decks? Good luck on
> > > that. I have ordered something different with a top and backing
> > > plate.
> > >
> > > In addition, I added a snap-shackle to the bottom of the furler unit
> > > so that it can be easily disconnected from the deck and a U shaped
> > > shackle to the top of the furler to connect it to the tack of the
> > > sail. The provided top swivel mounts directly to the head of the
> > > sail, so nothing additional needed there. I already discussed the
> > > halyard restrainer and with the IMF, I had a spare halyard available,
> > > so I didn't have to add one. Lastly, I replaced all the cotter pins
> > > on the furling units with cotter rings hoping to prevent torn sails if
> > > they get together in the sail bag.
> > >
> > > Doyle in NY is good to work with and they always respond in a timely
> > > manner. I think the sail is actually cut in Florida and Doyle Florida
> > > forgot to ship the hardware with the sail, so there was a delay
> > > getting it up and going.
> > >
> > > Once I get everything installed, I will take some pictures and send
> > > them to Rhodes22.org or post them here. In the meantime, if anyone
> > > has any questions so far, feel free to ask.
> > >
> > > David
> > > __________________________________________________
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> > >
> >
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> http://old.nabble.com/UPS-Sail-for-Rhodes-22-tp28351414p28358995.html
> > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 10
> > Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 18:45:55 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Joe Camp <jjcampjr at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Equipment query
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID: <259381.79095.qm at web52304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > Jerry:
> > Great advice, thanks.
> > Joe?
> >
> > --- On Sun, 4/25/10, cjlowe at sssnet.com <cjlowe at sssnet.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: cjlowe at sssnet.com <cjlowe at sssnet.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Equipment query
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Date: Sunday, April 25, 2010, 4:25 PM
> >
> > Joe,
> >
> > Some things you might want to think about now are how you are going to
> > use your boat. Will you overnight on the boat ,some,alot,not at all? If
> > you plan to overnight alot,a LED anchor light will help extend the
> > battery budget.(if out on the hook)
> > ? Will you trailer or take a slip? If you choose a slip,will it have
> > electric? If not, you will need a solar panel or two depending on your
> > wattage appitite. If you have electric,you'll need a shore power
> > hook-up,and most likely a battery charger.
> > ? In N.C., a bimini is almost a must,and if you overnight much, a poptop
> > is a really sweet.You can still sail with either or both deployed.
> > ? Some things are best left for Stan to do at the factory,like the
> captain
> > seats(the stern rail needs modified or changed.) Shore power,solar
> > panels, power outboard lift, might fall into that group,also.
> > ? One thing I like is a cheap GPS, if only to see what a sail trim gets
> > you in speed.
> >
> > Jerry Lowe
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Hey: (greeting that denotes familiarity)
> > > ??
> > > ???????? Stan and his crew will deliver a Recycled boat to me around
> the
> > > end of July.?? I would put this to him, but I understand that he is
> > > "waiting for them to deliver a straight jacket in [his] size," and I
> don't
> > > want to add anything to his pile.??
> > > ??
> > > ???????? I want to put the intervening time to the best use in getting
> > > what I'll need to sail on day-one.?? I'd appreciate (from those who
> have
> > > been down this path) some guidance on things I'll need.?? Motor & gas
> > > tank, I know.?? How about lines, fenders, anchor hardware, PFDs, day
> and
> > > night warning devices??and any variety of items you think I'll need to
> > > sail...not in oppulent comfort, but you know: just friggin' sail.?? I
> will
> > > have it on a fresh water lake in NC. Many thanks.?? And Here's a (non
> > > sailing)??poem for all to enjoy.
> > > ??
> > > Joe
> > > ??
> > > ???????????????? Crush
> > > ?????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????
> > > ???????????????????????????? JJ Camp
> > > ??
> > > It came at night; she half
> > > expected murder
> > > disappointment discomfiture
> > > ??
> > > of other expectations
> > > First: dark quiet
> > > reigned-in blacker dream
> > > ??
> > > dreams dreamer never
> > > saw the crush
> > > approached from her exposed
> > > ??
> > > right side, eye unblinking
> > > fracture fractured quiet
> > > undone in the crush
> > > ??
> > > the crush. She breathed hard
> > > knuckle bone against
> > > bone, skin rent rendered
> > > ??
> > > red under night???s
> > > black blanket, unconscious
> > > rifted shifting. Bright
> > > ??
> > > light in her head, the crush
> > > silent crush. She heard
> > > something like television
> > > ??
> > > snow crackled then
> > > and then???nothing
> > > nothing but the quiet
> > > ??
> > > of nothing. She thought:
> > > ???So this is what it???s like.
> > > This is what
> > > ??
> > > it???s like to die
> > > when fragments
> > > of love crushed bone????
> > > ??
> > > skull bone collapses
> > > yields to fist and flesh
> > > and crush sometime
> > > ??
> > > after twelve, when children
> > > should be asleep, not
> > > hearing, not listening
> > > ??
> > > And this is how Mother
> > > felt when Daddy???
> > > when Daddy
> > > ??
> > > when love in some disguise
> > > some disgruntled love drunk
> > > love comes home too late
> > > ??
> > > or too soon.?????????? ??????????????????????????????????????????????
> > > ?????????????????????? ?????????????????????? 19 August 2003
> > > ??
> > > ??
> > > ??
> > > ??
> > > ??
> > > ??
> > > ??
> > > ??
> > > ??
> > > ??
> > > ??
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________
> > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> > > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> > >
> > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
> go
> > > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > > __________________________________________________
> > >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > __________________________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 11
> > Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 21:52:33 EDT
> > From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Equipment query
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Message-ID: <21823.730229ff.39064be1 at aol.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > Actually, I believe they would fit into a cut out fire extinguisher.
> >
> > Rummy
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 4/25/2010 2:10:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > jjcampjr at yahoo.com writes:
> >
> > Rummy:
> >
> > Can I slip the rum into the PFDs?
> >
> > --- On Sun, 4/25/10, R22RumRunner at aol.com <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: R22RumRunner at aol.com <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Equipment query
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Date: Sunday, April 25, 2010, 12:33 PM
> >
> >
> > Joe,
> > The obvious necessities are the pfd's, fire extinguisher, glass cleaner
> > and
> > paper towels. After that you will need a good supply of ice, diet coke
> > (preferably made with splenda) and lots of Mt Gay rum. I'm available on
> > short
> > notice. Insulated tumblers are best.
> >
> > Rummy
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 4/25/2010 10:37:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > jjcampjr at yahoo.com writes:
> >
> > Hey: (greeting that denotes familiarity)
> >
> > Stan and his crew will deliver a Recycled boat to me around the end of
> > July. I would put this to him, but I understand that he is "waiting for
> > them
> > to deliver a straight jacket in [his] size," and I don't want to add
> > anything to his pile.
> >
> > I want to put the intervening time to the best use in getting what I'll
> > need to sail on day-one. I'd appreciate (from those who have been down
> > this
> > path) some guidance on things I'll need. Motor & gas tank, I know. How
> > about lines, fenders, anchor hardware, PFDs, day and night warning
> > devices
> > and any variety of items you think I'll need to sail...not in oppulent
> > comfort, but you know: just friggin' sail. I will have it on a fresh
> > water lake
> > in NC. Many thanks. And Here's a (non sailing) poem for all to enjoy.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > Crush
> > JJ Camp
> >
> > It came at night; she half
> > expected murder
> > disappointment discomfiture
> >
> > of other expectations
> > First: dark quiet
> > reigned-in blacker dream
> >
> > dreams dreamer never
> > saw the crush
> > approached from her exposed
> >
> > right side, eye unblinking
> > fracture fractured quiet
> > undone in the crush
> >
> > the crush. She breathed hard
> > knuckle bone against
> > bone, skin rent rendered
> >
> > red under night?s
> > black blanket, unconscious
> > rifted shifting. Bright
> >
> > light in her head, the crush
> > silent crush. She heard
> > something like television
> >
> > snow crackled then
> > and then?nothing
> > nothing but the quiet
> >
> > of nothing. She thought:
> > ?So this is what it?s like.
> > This is what
> >
> > it?s like to die
> > when fragments
> > of love crushed bone
> >
> > skull bone collapses
> > yields to fist and flesh
> > and crush sometime
> >
> > after twelve, when children
> > should be asleep, not
> > hearing, not listening
> >
> > And this is how Mother
> > felt when Daddy?
> > when Daddy
> >
> > when love in some disguise
> > some disgruntled love drunk
> > love comes home too late
> >
> > or too soon. 19 August 2003
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
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> >
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 12
> > Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 21:56:22 EDT
> > From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] UPS Sail for Rhodes 22
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Message-ID: <21a9d.4ba7f6d0.39064cc6 at aol.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> >
> > Joe,
> > Wait a minute. Before you go trashing the 175 genoa, try sailing it for a
> > year or two and learn what you can do with it. I live in SC on an inland
> > lake and I will never give mine up.
> >
> > Rummy
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 4/25/2010 5:27:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > jadoucet at snet.net writes:
> >
> >
> > David,
> >
> > I have moved my boat to an area where the 175 Genoa that came with my
> 2004
> > rebuilt Rhodes is much too heavy for the typical wind.
> >
> > Couldn't one just replace the 175 sail with the Doyle UPS sail & keep the
> > existing furling system?
> >
> > I'll be interested in your sailing experience, especially close hauled
> and
> > partially furled with the jib sheet led through the inner rigging points
> on
> > the boat.
> >
> > I don't doubt that the UPS is superior off The wind.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> >
> > David Culp-3 wrote:
> > >
> > > I just got a new UPS sail from Doyle for my boat. I have used it only
> > > one time, but I was quite pleased with the results as I would have
> > > been motoring instead of sailing in the light wind conditions.
> > >
> > > There is a good discussion of the UPS for the Rhodes on rhodes22.org .
> > > However, that information needs to be updated. So here it goes:
> > >
> > > The new kit price is $ 1075.00 which is $ 100.00 more then the order
> > > form states.
> > >
> > > The kit includes:
> > >
> > > UPS sail for the Rhodes 22 in customer chosen colors.
> > > Harken furling kit # 3029 which includes the furler and top swivel.
> > > Sheet line and furling line cut in the appropriate lengths.
> > >
> > > All these items are great and exactly what you need. The kit also
> > > includes a halyard restrainer which in reality is merely a pad-eye and
> > > a couple of pop rivets. The deck-eye is just a plain old eye-bolt. I
> > > was expecting something different in regards to these two items and
> > > had the discussion with Doyle in NY about them. Doyle tells me that
> > > other Rhodes sailors are using these two items quite successfully, so
> > > to each his own I guess. The pad-eye will work, but it is not a
> > > formal halyard restrainer and I ordered Harken # 944 ($45.00) to use
> > > instead because it has a roller sheave. And do we really have Rhodes
> > > owners mounting eye-bolts with no plates on their decks? Good luck on
> > > that. I have ordered something different with a top and backing
> > > plate.
> > >
> > > In addition, I added a snap-shackle to the bottom of the furler unit
> > > so that it can be easily disconnected from the deck and a U shaped
> > > shackle to the top of the furler to connect it to the tack of the
> > > sail. The provided top swivel mounts directly to the head of the
> > > sail, so nothing additional needed there. I already discussed the
> > > halyard restrainer and with the IMF, I had a spare halyard available,
> > > so I didn't have to add one. Lastly, I replaced all the cotter pins
> > > on the furling units with cotter rings hoping to prevent torn sails if
> > > they get together in the sail bag.
> > >
> > > Doyle in NY is good to work with and they always respond in a timely
> > > manner. I think the sail is actually cut in Florida and Doyle Florida
> > > forgot to ship the hardware with the sail, so there was a delay
> > > getting it up and going.
> > >
> > > Once I get everything installed, I will take some pictures and send
> > > them to Rhodes22.org or post them here. In the meantime, if anyone
> > > has any questions so far, feel free to ask.
> > >
> > > David
> > > __________________________________________________
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> > >
> > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
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> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> > http://old.nabble.com/UPS-Sail-for-Rhodes-22-tp28351414p28358995.html
> > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >
> > __________________________________________________
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> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 13
> > Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 20:49:11 -0700
> > From: "Geankoplis" <napoli68 at charter.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Equipment query
> > To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID: <000301cae4f3$7024b480$506e1d80$@net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Jeez Joe........that's almost too powerful for this listee.
> > Chris Geankoplis
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:
> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Joe Camp
> > Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 07:37
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Equipment query
> >
> > Hey: (greeting that denotes familiarity)
> >
> > Stan and his crew will deliver a Recycled boat to me around the end of
> July. I would put this to him, but I understand that he is "waiting for them
> to deliver a straight jacket in [his] size," and I don't want to add
> anything to his pile.
> >
> > I want to put the intervening time to the best use in getting what I'll
> need to sail on day-one. I'd appreciate (from those who have been down this
> path) some guidance on things I'll need. Motor & gas tank, I know. How about
> lines, fenders, anchor hardware, PFDs, day and night warning devices and any
> variety of items you think I'll need to sail...not in oppulent comfort, but
> you know: just friggin' sail. I will have it on a fresh water lake in NC.
> Many thanks. And Here's a (non sailing) poem for all to enjoy.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > Crush
> > JJ Camp
> >
> > It came at night; she half
> > expected murder
> > disappointment discomfiture
> >
> > of other expectations
> > First: dark quiet
> > reigned-in blacker dream
> >
> > dreams dreamer never
> > saw the crush
> > approached from her exposed
> >
> > right side, eye unblinking
> > fracture fractured quiet
> > undone in the crush
> >
> > the crush. She breathed hard
> > knuckle bone against
> > bone, skin rent rendered
> >
> > red under night?s
> > black blanket, unconscious
> > rifted shifting. Bright
> >
> > light in her head, the crush
> > silent crush. She heard
> > something like television
> >
> > snow crackled then
> > and then?nothing
> > nothing but the quiet
> >
> > of nothing. She thought:
> > ?So this is what it?s like.
> > This is what
> >
> > it?s like to die
> > when fragments
> > of love crushed bone
> >
> > skull bone collapses
> > yields to fist and flesh
> > and crush sometime
> >
> > after twelve, when children
> > should be asleep, not
> > hearing, not listening
> >
> > And this is how Mother
> > felt when Daddy?
> > when Daddy
> >
> > when love in some disguise
> > some disgruntled love drunk
> > love comes home too late
> >
> > or too soon. 19 August 2003
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > __________________________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 14
> > Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 05:41:17 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] tiller pilot ST1000
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Message-ID: <28364197.post at talk.nabble.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> >
> > Enclosed is a pdf file that shows the recent installation of my new
> Tiller
> > Pilot.
> > http://old.nabble.com/file/p28364197/tiller%2Bpilot.pdf tiller+pilot.pdf
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> http://old.nabble.com/tiller-pilot-ST1000-tp28364197p28364197.html
> > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 15
> > Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 06:19:11 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Joe Camp <jjcampjr at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Equipment query
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID: <121136.46415.qm at web52304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > Chris:
> > Thanks. "Almost" too powerful it is. It comes straight out of thirty-four
> years as a cop and lots of very pointed observation. ?Art isn't always
> pleasing, but it raises questions...about the topic, about life and about
> ourselves. ?(Hey, I'm teaching Lit. on the list. Lovely.) ?About now, Rummy
> will write and suggest a cold drink of something. ?Good idea!
> > Joe?
> >
> > --- On Sun, 4/25/10, Geankoplis <napoli68 at charter.net> wrote:
> >
> > From: Geankoplis <napoli68 at charter.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Equipment query
> > To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Date: Sunday, April 25, 2010, 11:49 PM
> >
> > Jeez Joe........that's almost too powerful for this listee.
> > Chris Geankoplis
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:
> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Joe Camp
> > Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 07:37
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Equipment query
> >
> > Hey: (greeting that denotes familiarity)
> >
> > ? ???Stan and his crew will deliver a Recycled boat to me around the end
> of July.? I would put this to him, but I understand that he is "waiting for
> them to deliver a straight jacket in [his] size," and I don't want to add
> anything to his pile.?
> >
> > ? ???I want to put the intervening time to the best use in getting what
> I'll need to sail on day-one.? I'd appreciate (from those who have been down
> this path) some guidance on things I'll need.? Motor & gas tank, I know.?
> How about lines, fenders, anchor hardware, PFDs, day and night warning
> devices and any variety of items you think I'll need to sail...not in
> oppulent comfort, but you know: just friggin' sail.? I will have it on a
> fresh water lake in NC. Many thanks.? And Here's a (non sailing) poem for
> all to enjoy.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > ? ? ? ???Crush
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???JJ Camp
> >
> > It came at night; she half
> > expected murder
> > disappointment discomfiture
> >
> > of other expectations
> > First: dark quiet
> > reigned-in blacker dream
> >
> > dreams dreamer never
> > saw the crush
> > approached from her exposed
> >
> > right side, eye unblinking
> > fracture fractured quiet
> > undone in the crush
> >
> > the crush. She breathed hard
> > knuckle bone against
> > bone, skin rent rendered
> >
> > red under night?s
> > black blanket, unconscious
> > rifted shifting. Bright
> >
> > light in her head, the crush
> > silent crush. She heard
> > something like television
> >
> > snow crackled then
> > and then?nothing
> > nothing but the quiet
> >
> > of nothing. She thought:
> > ?So this is what it?s like.
> > This is what
> >
> > it?s like to die
> > when fragments
> > of love crushed bone?
> >
> > skull bone collapses
> > yields to fist and flesh
> > and crush sometime
> >
> > after twelve, when children
> > should be asleep, not
> > hearing, not listening
> >
> > And this is how Mother
> > felt when Daddy?
> > when Daddy
> >
> > when love in some disguise
> > some disgruntled love drunk
> > love comes home too late
> >
> > or too soon.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 19
> August 2003
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ? ? ?
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > __________________________________________________
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > __________________________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 16
> > Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 09:50:08 -0400
> > From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Equipment query
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > <20DE79EA3783484A94EF626CFBEB95B31E70D95FDB at rivendell.cc.w2k.vt.edu>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Joe,
> > Once you get your boat in the water, ask the Coast Guard Auxiliary to do
> a courtesy safety inspection on your boat. They will look for all the
> required safety equipment and if you are missing it, there is no fine or
> ticket. If you pass, they put a sticker on your mast which tends to keep the
> real cops away. - rob
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:
> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Joe Camp
> > Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 10:37 AM
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Equipment query
> >
> > Hey: (greeting that denotes familiarity)
> > ?
> > ???? Stan and his crew will deliver a Recycled boat to me around the end
> of July.? I would put this to him, but I understand that he is "waiting for
> them to deliver a straight jacket in [his] size," and I don't want to add
> anything to his pile.?
> > ?
> > ???? I want to put the intervening time to the best use in getting what
> I'll need to sail on day-one.? I'd appreciate (from those who have been down
> this path) some guidance on things I'll need.? Motor & gas tank, I know.?
> How about lines, fenders, anchor hardware, PFDs, day and night warning
> devices?and any variety of items you think I'll need to sail...not in
> oppulent comfort, but you know: just friggin' sail.? I will have it on a
> fresh water lake in NC. Many thanks.? And Here's a (non sailing)?poem for
> all to enjoy.
> > ?
> > Joe
> > ?
> > ???????? Crush
> > ??????????????????????? ??????????? ?????????????? JJ Camp
> > ?
> > It came at night; she half
> > expected murder
> > disappointment discomfiture
> > ?
> > of other expectations
> > First: dark quiet
> > reigned-in blacker dream
> > ?
> > dreams dreamer never
> > saw the crush
> > approached from her exposed
> > ?
> > right side, eye unblinking
> > fracture fractured quiet
> > undone in the crush
> > ?
> > the crush. She breathed hard
> > knuckle bone against
> > bone, skin rent rendered
> > ?
> > red under night?s
> > black blanket, unconscious
> > rifted shifting. Bright
> > ?
> > light in her head, the crush
> > silent crush. She heard
> > something like television
> > ?
> > snow crackled then
> > and then?nothing
> > nothing but the quiet
> > ?
> > of nothing. She thought:
> > ?So this is what it?s like.
> > This is what
> > ?
> > it?s like to die
> > when fragments
> > of love crushed bone??
> > ?
> > skull bone collapses
> > yields to fist and flesh
> > and crush sometime
> > ?
> > after twelve, when children
> > should be asleep, not
> > hearing, not listening
> > ?
> > And this is how Mother
> > felt when Daddy?
> > when Daddy
> > ?
> > when love in some disguise
> > some disgruntled love drunk
> > love comes home too late
> > ?
> > or too soon.????? ??????????????????????? ??????????? ??????????? 19
> August 2003
> > ?
> > ?
> > ?
> > ?
> > ?
> > ?
> > ?
> > ?
> > ?
> > ?
> > ?
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go
> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > __________________________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 17
> > Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 10:10:24 -0400
> > From: Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] tiller pilot ST1000
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > <r2r52e9a141004260710jd772e20dy2c171ba2cdc4dace at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > Chris,
> >
> > Got the remote? It adds a lot of convenience to single handing and it is
> > the only way my wife will steer the boat.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 8:41 AM, cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Enclosed is a pdf file that shows the recent installation of my new
> Tiller
> > > Pilot.
> > > http://old.nabble.com/file/p28364197/tiller%2Bpilot.pdftiller+pilot.pdf
> > > --
> > > View this message in context:
> > > http://old.nabble.com/tiller-pilot-ST1000-tp28364197p28364197.html
> > > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________
> > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> > > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> > >
> > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
> go
> > > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> > > __________________________________________________
> > >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 18
> > Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 10:41:46 -0400
> > From: Eric Larson <ericrobertlarson at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Farewell
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > <v2oe2dc2f4f1004260741x97ee6126h97f0631ba2cd7416 at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > Hello folks,
> >
> > Well the Rhodes 22 that I was looking at has sold. I was not able to get
> > over to see it before it sold due to family obligations.
> >
> > I just wanted to express my thanks to all of you who took time to send me
> > advice. You were a great help!
> >
> > I wish that my budget would allow more than $1k-$2k for a boat or I would
> be
> > ordering a reconditioned Rhodes 22 as we speak. Alas, that is not to be!
> >
> > I am going to sign off the list, but I'll be back if I ever find another
> > Rhodes that I can afford.
> >
> > Thanks again!
> > Eric
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 19
> > Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 07:50:19 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Joe Camp <jjcampjr at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Equipment query
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID: <274396.5129.qm at web52301.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > Rob:
> > Thanks. ?I will be in a fresh water lake. No Coast Guard there (as far as
> I know).
> > Joe?
> >
> > --- On Mon, 4/26/10, Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> >
> > From: Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Equipment query
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 9:50 AM
> >
> > Joe,
> > Once you get your boat in the water, ask the Coast Guard Auxiliary to do
> a courtesy safety inspection on your boat.? They will look for all the
> required safety equipment and if you are missing it, there is no fine or
> ticket.? If you pass, they put a sticker on your mast which tends to keep
> the real cops away. - rob
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:
> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Joe Camp
> > Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 10:37 AM
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Equipment query
> >
> > Hey: (greeting that denotes familiarity)
> > ?
> > ???? Stan and his crew will deliver a Recycled boat to me around the end
> of July.? I would put this to him, but I understand that he is "waiting for
> them to deliver a straight jacket in [his] size," and I don't want to add
> anything to his pile.?
> > ?
> > ???? I want to put the intervening time to the best use in getting what
> I'll need to sail on day-one.? I'd appreciate (from those who have been down
> this path) some guidance on things I'll need.? Motor & gas tank, I know.?
> How about lines, fenders, anchor hardware, PFDs, day and night warning
> devices?and any variety of items you think I'll need to sail...not in
> oppulent comfort, but you know: just friggin' sail.? I will have it on a
> fresh water lake in NC. Many thanks.? And Here's a (non sailing)?poem for
> all to enjoy.
> > ?
> > Joe
> > ?
> > ???????? Crush
> > ??????????????????????? ??????????? ?????????????? JJ Camp
> > ?
> > It came at night; she half
> > expected murder
> > disappointment discomfiture
> > ?
> > of other expectations
> > First: dark quiet
> > reigned-in blacker dream
> > ?
> > dreams dreamer never
> > saw the crush
> > approached from her exposed
> > ?
> > right side, eye unblinking
> > fracture fractured quiet
> > undone in the crush
> > ?
> > the crush. She breathed hard
> > knuckle bone against
> > bone, skin rent rendered
> > ?
> > red under night?s
> > black blanket, unconscious
> > rifted shifting. Bright
> > ?
> > light in her head, the crush
> > silent crush. She heard
> > something like television
> > ?
> > snow crackled then
> > and then?nothing
> > nothing but the quiet
> > ?
> > of nothing. She thought:
> > ?So this is what it?s like.
> > This is what
> > ?
> > it?s like to die
> > when fragments
> > of love crushed bone??
> > ?
> > skull bone collapses
> > yields to fist and flesh
> > and crush sometime
> > ?
> > after twelve, when children
> > should be asleep, not
> > hearing, not listening
> > ?
> > And this is how Mother
> > felt when Daddy?
> > when Daddy
> > ?
> > when love in some disguise
> > some disgruntled love drunk
> > love comes home too late
> > ?
> > or too soon.????? ??????????????????????? ??????????? ??????????? 19
> August 2003
> > ?
> > ?
> > ?
> > ?
> > ?
> > ?
> > ?
> > ?
> > ?
> > ?
> > ?
> >
> >
> > ? ? ?
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 20
> > Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 10:53:30 -0400
> > From: "KUHN, LELAND" <LKUHN at cnmc.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] UPS Sail for Rhodes 22
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > <BAEF334992594C47AD272D6B69E6C36002451B2D at EXCHVS02.cnmc.org>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Joe,
> >
> > I'd love to have a UPS but I don't think I'd replace my Genoa with one.
> > I'm not sure if the UPS would perform as well except downwind in light
> > air. You would probably need to replace the sail more often too.
> >
> > On a close reach I can usually fill my 175 once the wind exceeds 3
> > knots. On a run in light wind I hold the Genoa open with a whisker
> > pole. I'm sure it doesn't work as well as a UPS but it helps. As a
> > daysailor I try to avoid running in light wind.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > Lee
> > 1986 Rhodes22 AT EASE
> > Kent Island, MD
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of DownHill
> > Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 5:28 PM
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] UPS Sail for Rhodes 22
> >
> >
> > David,
> >
> > I have moved my boat to an area where the 175 Genoa that came with my
> > 2004
> > rebuilt Rhodes is much too heavy for the typical wind.
> >
> > Couldn't one just replace the 175 sail with the Doyle UPS sail & keep
> > the
> > existing furling system?
> >
> > I'll be interested in your sailing experience, especially close hauled
> > and
> > partially furled with the jib sheet led through the inner rigging points
> > on
> > the boat.
> >
> > I don't doubt that the UPS is superior off The wind.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> >
> > David Culp-3 wrote:
> > >
> > > I just got a new UPS sail from Doyle for my boat. I have used it only
> > > one time, but I was quite pleased with the results as I would have
> > > been motoring instead of sailing in the light wind conditions.
> > >
> > > There is a good discussion of the UPS for the Rhodes on rhodes22.org .
> > > However, that information needs to be updated. So here it goes:
> > >
> > > The new kit price is $ 1075.00 which is $ 100.00 more then the order
> > > form states.
> > >
> > > The kit includes:
> > >
> > > UPS sail for the Rhodes 22 in customer chosen colors.
> > > Harken furling kit # 3029 which includes the furler and top swivel.
> > > Sheet line and furling line cut in the appropriate lengths.
> > >
> > > All these items are great and exactly what you need. The kit also
> > > includes a halyard restrainer which in reality is merely a pad-eye and
> > > a couple of pop rivets. The deck-eye is just a plain old eye-bolt. I
> > > was expecting something different in regards to these two items and
> > > had the discussion with Doyle in NY about them. Doyle tells me that
> > > other Rhodes sailors are using these two items quite successfully, so
> > > to each his own I guess. The pad-eye will work, but it is not a
> > > formal halyard restrainer and I ordered Harken # 944 ($45.00) to use
> > > instead because it has a roller sheave. And do we really have Rhodes
> > > owners mounting eye-bolts with no plates on their decks? Good luck on
> > > that. I have ordered something different with a top and backing
> > > plate.
> > >
> > > In addition, I added a snap-shackle to the bottom of the furler unit
> > > so that it can be easily disconnected from the deck and a U shaped
> > > shackle to the top of the furler to connect it to the tack of the
> > > sail. The provided top swivel mounts directly to the head of the
> > > sail, so nothing additional needed there. I already discussed the
> > > halyard restrainer and with the IMF, I had a spare halyard available,
> > > so I didn't have to add one. Lastly, I replaced all the cotter pins
> > > on the furling units with cotter rings hoping to prevent torn sails if
> > > they get together in the sail bag.
> > >
> > > Doyle in NY is good to work with and they always respond in a timely
> > > manner. I think the sail is actually cut in Florida and Doyle Florida
> > > forgot to ship the hardware with the sail, so there was a delay
> > > getting it up and going.
> > >
> > > Once I get everything installed, I will take some pictures and send
> > > them to Rhodes22.org or post them here. In the meantime, if anyone
> > > has any questions so far, feel free to ask.
> > >
> > > David
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> >
> > --
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> > http://old.nabble.com/UPS-Sail-for-Rhodes-22-tp28351414p28358995.html
> > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >
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> > ------------------------------
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> > Message: 21
> > Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 10:14:55 -0500
> > From: Geoff Farrell <geoffreylfarrell at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Just introducing myself
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Message-ID:
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> > Hi. My name is Geoff and I'm currently thinking of buying a Rhodes 22,
> so,
> > I've joined this list in anticipation of benefiting from your experience
> and
> > advice. Before I ask specifics, I'll be doing some research into the
> > archives. Thanks in advance for your consideration. Geoff
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 22
> > Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:22:24 -0400
> > From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Farewell
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > <20DE79EA3783484A94EF626CFBEB95B31E70D9612F at rivendell.cc.w2k.vt.edu>
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> >
> > Eric,
> > Feel free to stick around. You never know when a boat is going to pop up.
> And I'll keep your address for future reference. If I ever find a
> replacement boat mine will be available. - rob
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:
> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Eric Larson
> > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:42 AM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Farewell
> >
> > Hello folks,
> >
> > Well the Rhodes 22 that I was looking at has sold. I was not able to get
> > over to see it before it sold due to family obligations.
> >
> > I just wanted to express my thanks to all of you who took time to send me
> > advice. You were a great help!
> >
> > I wish that my budget would allow more than $1k-$2k for a boat or I would
> be
> > ordering a reconditioned Rhodes 22 as we speak. Alas, that is not to be!
> >
> > I am going to sign off the list, but I'll be back if I ever find another
> > Rhodes that I can afford.
> >
> > Thanks again!
> > Eric
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 23
> > Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:36:36 -0400
> > From: "Chris Cowie" <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] tiller pilot ST1000
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > <FB33F8F99740DB4688040C1ED75BB89F24B3E6 at sbs2003.CowieSBS.local>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Rick:
> >
> > No remote and still working on getting my wife to step foot on the boat.
> >
> > Christopher P. Cowie? ??
> >
> >
> > 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW
> > Suite 300
> > Washington, DC? 20007
> > 202.342.2711
> > 202.342.2691 fax
> > 202.270.1470 mobile
> >
> > [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
> > cowieassociates.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:
> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Rick
> > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:10 AM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] tiller pilot ST1000
> >
> > Chris,
> >
> > Got the remote? It adds a lot of convenience to single handing and it is
> > the only way my wife will steer the boat.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 8:41 AM, cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Enclosed is a pdf file that shows the recent installation of my new
> Tiller
> > > Pilot.
> > > http://old.nabble.com/file/p28364197/tiller%2Bpilot.pdftiller+pilot.pdf
> > > --
> > > View this message in context:
> > > http://old.nabble.com/tiller-pilot-ST1000-tp28364197p28364197.html
> > > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________
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> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 24
> > Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:31:30 -0400
> > From: Yaron Fuchs <yaronfuchs at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] tiller pilot ST1000
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID: <25ACD872-F4E9-42B6-BF22-78BFE01B7F7A at gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
> >
> > Chris,
> > I have the same setup on my boat (both gps - and tiller pilot) How
> > did you set them up to talk to each other via nemia ?
> >
> > Yaron Fuchs
> > On Apr 26, 2010, at 11:36 AM, Chris Cowie wrote:
> >
> > > Rick:
> > >
> > > No remote and still working on getting my wife to step foot on the
> > > boat.
> > >
> > > Christopher P. Cowie
> > >
> > >
> > > 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW
> > > Suite 300
> > > Washington, DC 20007
> > > 202.342.2711
> > > 202.342.2691 fax
> > > 202.270.1470 mobile
> > >
> > > [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
> > > cowieassociates.com
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:
> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > ] On Behalf Of Rick
> > > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:10 AM
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] tiller pilot ST1000
> > >
> > > Chris,
> > >
> > > Got the remote? It adds a lot of convenience to single handing and
> > > it is
> > > the only way my wife will steer the boat.
> > >
> > > Rick
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 8:41 AM, cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Enclosed is a pdf file that shows the recent installation of my new
> > >> Tiller
> > >> Pilot.
> > >> http://old.nabble.com/file/p28364197/tiller%2Bpilot.pdf tiller
> > >> +pilot.pdf
> > >> --
> > >> View this message in context:
> > >> http://old.nabble.com/tiller-pilot-ST1000-tp28364197p28364197.html
> > >> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> > >>
> > >> __________________________________________________
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> > >>
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> > Yaron Fuchs
> > yaronfuchs at gmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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