[Rhodes22-list] Thanks for the warm welcomes

Wed Apr 28 14:02:51 EDT 2010

Wow, so many great and thoughtful replies. You guys (I use the term
generically) love your boats. Some of you should write copy for Stan's
advertising (if he ever decides to advertise). Lots of things to think
about. I'm awaiting Stan's package that he just put in the mail for me.
Thanks to all of you.

Art: Thunderbird wine ($4.95 for 750ml)? I'll never be able to afford that
after buying an R22. But, just in case, how many 750s will fit in the the
R22 icebox?

Ben: How long was Velvet Elvis submerged before you got to her? Those pics
were unbelievable. When the mast came down, where did the shrouds/stays give
way? At the chain plates? We're in a hurricane area here (Ivan decimated
us). I'm not sure I would even be covered for hurricanes unless I agreed to
transport the boat north of Interstate 10.

It was great to hear how welcoming Stan is to factory visits. Stan, if
you're reading this, I like Absolute martinis, straight up, very dry, with
olives stuffed with bleu cheese. Oh, and I like my steaks medium.

Geoff

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Ben Schultz <
benonvelvetelvis at theskinnyonbenny.com> wrote:

> Geoff,
>
> I can't remember if you said whether you were considering a purchase from
> GB, or a sale from an existing owner, but if you are considering buying
> from
> GB, there's a huge advantage right there.
>
> When I purchased my used R22 from GB, Stan's brother Elton stuck around for
> two days making mechanical adjustments and showing me some time-trusted
> tips
> before he was satisfied with the state of the boat.  They provided some
> additional documentation to my lender that allowed me to borrower a bigger
> percentage of the cost and at a lower rate.  They even provide free lodging
> at their factory for when you visit.
>
> We can pick up our phones and get the owner of the company any day of the
> year.  Stan has even posted his home number in case we need to get him in
> the middle of the night (although I'm not sure what sort of emergency would
> call for that level of access).
>
> You'll find no one that deals with you in a more honest, straightforward
> way
> that the Spitzers.
>
> And the boat is as solid as advertized.  Velvet Elvis was unfortunately
> located right were Hurricane Katrina's western eye wall passed.  There were
> many dozens of sunk boats in the area, and some had disappeared altogether.
> But Velvet Elvis had been tied to the dock with six 3/4" lines, and one
> frayed line still held her in place.
>
> We found her  with a pretzel for a mast, and full of water (and crabs), and
> because of all of the other damage, we didn't even touch her for six
> months.
> (photos:
>
> http://theskinnyonbenny.com/pg3.php?spgmGal=014%20-%20Velvet%20Elvis%20Damag
> e%20Photos).  But it was clear that the hull was fine.  The deck was
> solid;
> the chainplates were firmly lodged where they belong.
>
> I finally hauled her up to Edenton, advised Stan of my insurance-money
> budget, and came back a couple of months later to find a boat that appeared
> to be brand new.  The deck and cockpit floor still feel as solid as the day
> she was new.
>
> I don't know the Com-Pac or the Precision, but if you're going to
> entertain,
> the pop-top is a huge feature.  Combined with huge cockpit, it easily
> provides comfortable space for 6 adults.  In our boat, the admiral likes to
> stand under the pop-top and act as bartender and guide for the guests in
> the
> cockpit.  We've also got the bimini, which I would advise for summers on
> Mobile Bay.  Before we bought it, we stuck to nighttime sails in the
> Louisiana summertime.
>
> I hope you do pick the Rhodes.  Your posts have given me a couple of laughs
> this week.  I think you'll like it here :-)
>
> Ben S.
> R22 Velvet Elvis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Mary Lou Troy
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 11:45 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>  Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Thanks for the warm welcomes
>
> HI Geoff,
>
> You are looking at 3 very different boats. We've been aboard both the
> Eclipse at boat shows and the P21. We used to have a Com-Pac 16. The
> Eclipse is basically Com-Pac's replacement for the Com-Pac 19. It's a
> bit bigger and has a centerboard. It's a lot smaller than a Rhodes
> 22. It would be a good daysailer and not a bad overnighter but it has
> only sitting headroom in the cabin. I'm still a member of the Com-pac
> email list (a yahoo group) and while people occasionally ask about
> them, no one there seems to own one. Same deal on the Trailer Sailor
> Bulletin Board
> (http://bbs.trailersailor.com/forums/trailersailor/index.cgi). If the
> Eclipse is like the other Hutchins' boats it is very sturdily built
> and the Mast-tendr system would be great if you are going to trailer
> and daysail. The P21 is a faster boat but is similar to the Eclipse
> in size. It is more lightly built but they are still quality boats.
> If you buy a Precision, put latches on the cockpit lockers. We've
> known of several Precisions sunk or partially sunk after a knockdown
> through downflooding through the cockpit locker which opens directly
> into the boat. As someone else mentioned, the P23 is closer to the
> R22 in size. Both the Com-Pac and the P21 would be easier to trailer
> and set up than the Rhodes but the Rhodes is much more like a small
> cruiser than the other two. The standing headroom with the pop-top up
> and the full galley with ample storage and built in icebox put it in
> another class entirely. The R22 is the only one with positive
> flotation. If you are conscientious and put your hatchboard in during
> rough weather and lock your lockers, that may not matter too much but
> it is a nice feature to have.
>
> When we were looking for a replacement for the 16 we were looking for
> a boat for weekend cruising and that would do well in the light air
> of the Chesapeake. We also wanted a boat we would be confident could
> handle rough weather if we were caught out by a summer thunderstorm.
> The R22 won hands down. Seems to me you need to assess your uses and
> set your priorities.
>
> Best of luck,
> Mary Lou
>
>
> At 04:56 PM 4/27/2010, you wrote:
> >Hi Lee. I'm considering the following: Com-Pac Eclipse (Hutchins Co.) and
> >Precision 21 (Precision Boat Works). Are you familier with these? Geoff
> >
> >
> >
> >On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 7:11 PM, KUHN, LELAND <LKUHN at cnmc.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Geoff,
> > >
> > > If you let us know some of the other makes of sailboats we offer you
> our
> > > expert and totally unbiased opinions.
> > >
> > > Lee
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org on behalf of Geoff Farrell
> > > Sent: Mon 4/26/2010 7:48 PM
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Thanks for the warm welcomes
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks to all of you for the warm welcome. I have a place in Gulf
> Shores,
> > > AL
> > > so I will initially be sailing in Mobile Bay until I get enough
> experience
> > > and courage to venture out some. I am a new sailor. Just took lessons
> about
> > > 3 weeks ago. Rob: I'm a vodka man but I always have some Captain Morgan
> > > around for friends.
> > >
> > > I'm interested in the Rhodes (and a couple of other makes) because of
> the
> > > wonderful reviews it gets online. I've done a lot of research. My head
> is
> > > spinning. Also, I was very impressed with General Boat's site. The
> content
> > > seemed to "come from the heart" and therefore gave me confidence in the
> > > builder as well as the product.
> > >
> > > My primary residence is in central WI so I'm trying to decide if I want
> to
> > > trail the boat (I eventually buy) to WI or if I want to just leave it
> in
> > > Gulf Shores. If I trail it back to WI I could launch it in Green Lake
> which
> > > is only about an hour from me.
> > >
> > > I will be single handling most of the time as my wife has some
> > > trepidations.
> > > But, I hope to ease her into it. Hey, I convinced her to marry me so
> > > getting
> > > her aboard shouldn't be anywhere near as hard.
> > >
> > > Thanks again, Geoff
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