[Rhodes22-list] to Leo and any other new, or planning-to-be, Rhodes owners

Wed Apr 28 20:09:42 EDT 2010

Eric,

We can't answer your questions below until you give us your certificate number.

BK

> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 17:19:47 -0400
> From: ericrobertlarson at gmail.com
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] to Leo and any other new, or planning-to-be, Rhodes owners
> 
> OK that is great.
> 
> Now suppose that I find a seller that is unwilling to purchase a certificate
> before the sale. Is it an option for me to submit a copy of the bill of
> sale and purchase the certificate after I take possession of the boat?
> 
> Second question. In the event that I decide not to purchase a certificate,
> I am assuming that posts on this forum for repair advice etc would NOT be
> viewed as attempts to circumvent the certificate program. Is that fair?
> 
> I know that the purchase of this certificate is seen as a no-brainer by
> some, but that is not necessarily true, when you consider that all of the
> other boats that are on the "potential purchase" list are either out of
> production or in production, but without any pro-bono manufacturer support
> (e.g. a Catalina for example). For me, it is not a *clearly* beneficial
> purchase, especially when you consider that even when give the original
> purchase price as a credit toward a new or recycled Rhodes, these boats are
> still, and probably always will be, way outside my budget. A discount on
> parts is good, but there are other ways to deal with that issue as well.
> Especially when talking about the early versions of the Rhodes which I can
> afford that have fewer specialized options (like the IMF system etc).
> 
> All that being said, I can certainly appreciate the reasons why you are
> putting this program in place, and I also see that there is value there. I
> am just not 100% convinced that there is enough value ***for me*** to refuse
> to purchase a Rhodes from someone who does not have and is not willing to
> get a certificate before selling the boat to me. This is made even more
> true when my only other option may be to purchase a boat that is inferior
> to the Rhodes 22.
> 
> Eric
> 
> On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 11:18 AM, stan <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
> 
> > It is on the re-sale price,
> >
> > And it is voluntary since we are sensitive to being called insane for even
> > suggesting such a thing.
> >
> > But, Eric, incase you have not heard this covered in all the pro and con
> > prior posts: While we agree with the "insane" label, we see it as being
> > more appropriate from the other side of the ledger. Just in the past few
> > weeks alone several more Rhodes re-sales have been made at no cost to the
> > sellers - but at a fortune cost to GB in creating these buyers for these
> > sellers, through the boat shows these particular buyers have gone to over
> > and over again over many years, in the investments GB has made in the
> > multiple mailings, e-mails, phone call, and visits to the plant these
> > buyers
> > have made and the follow up investment private sales require. A call from
> > a
> > completed nothing-in-it-for-GB sale just this minute came in: "how do I fix
> > ....". Of course we have been and would love to continue being of help to
> > all Rhodies but unfortunately we have come to the end of GB's pro bono rope
> > and have no choice but to stop the bleeding or move on to another business.
> >
> > stan/gbi
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Eric Larson" <ericrobertlarson at gmail.com>
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 10:12 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] to Leo and any other new, or
> > planning-to-be,Rhodes owners
> >
> >
> > Hey Stan,
> >
> > Just to clarify...is the fee 10% of the current sale price or the original
> > boat price? I am assuming that it is always the current owner that needs
> > to
> > purchase the cert, and purchasing it myself at the same time as the boat is
> > not an option.
> >
> > I have feelers out on three boats right now, and just want to clarify the
> > rules.
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 9:50 AM, stan <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
> >
> > > For those who appreciate the value of owning a boat that continues to
> > > remain
> > > in production, attached is an update on the voluntary Rhodes Certificate
> > > of
> > > Support program that will be strictly enforced for the sake of current
> > > Rhodes owners.
> > >
> > > stan/gbi
> > > .
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
> > > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 8:24 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New member to the group
> > >
> > >
> > > > Leo,
> > > > Welcome to the whacky world of Rhodes.
> > > >
> > > > Rummy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 4/26/2010 1:22:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > > > lzerilli at yahoo.com writes:
> > > >
> > > > Hello. My name is Leo. I'm in the final stages of buying a 2000 Rhodes
> > > > 22.
> > > > I should be bringing it home on Saturday and hope to have it in the
> > > water
> > > > shortly thereafter. I've been subscribed to the list for about a week
> > > and
> > > > have thoroughly enjoyed the discussions. I look forward to
> > contributing
> > > > in
> > > > the future! I hope you won't mind my potentially basic questions!
> > > >
> > > > I’ll be sailing around Marblehead, MA.
> > > >
> > > > Leo
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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